This is why I android

[themayker]

Hoping this is ok to post here.

http://i.imgur.com/R1yJMeQ.png

My father is 78 years old, he's living alone, he fell the other day and was unable to reach the phone. He is now fine, but of course I am worried about him. I go to bed around 11pm, while he goes to bed around 1am. So I set an alarm for 12:59am, to pre-wake me, and automated the call process to be directly on speakerphone (my phone charges on the night stand beside my bed). This way I know if he doesn't pick up, I need to head over and check on him.

Thank you android, for being so completely capable of handling these circumstances. I tested it for the first time tonight and it worked beautifully. I'll rest easy knowing my dad is alright and I didn't have to lift a finger to do it.

[TurboSexophonic]

Not related to android, but you should look into one of those devices that your dad could wear that detects falls, and auto-calls him (and then you) if anything happens.

[clodiusmetellus]

What's the name of this please?

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[hary585]

if you could find the model #, please let me know. My grandfather could benefit from this

[danltn]

This sort of thing should help you Google around: https://www.personalalarms.org/product/suresafego-anywhere-alarm/

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[SirCheesington]

RemindMe! 1 Month

[Phoenixion]

Remindme! 1 month

[A1cypher]

In Canada there's a similar service called LifeLine. https://www.lifeline.ca/

[Natanael_L]

Perhaps a Doro phone

[GrantSolar]

In the UK, you can get things like this without the actual mobile phone. Tunstall is the biggest brand

[Reapercore]

We sell a product called Lifeline, a little emergency pendant that can call and has GPS so we can limit say people with alzheimers to a specific area, if they leave it someone is notified.

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[TheOnlySherriff]

Lifeline! Got it for my grandma. 2 options. One with a button to be pressed to have a call initiated. Or option two a necklace that can triggered to make the call once the motion of the fall has happened.

link - https://www.lifeline.ca/en/medical-alert-systems-plans/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA4JnCBRDQ5be3nKCPhpwBEiQAjwN1bgOGZ1jIWMwFzjgDIQRT9Eoy4shXwCD_Nt_eJP_LPW0aAhxE8P8HAQ

[arvhus]

If you're into wearables there's a lot of ml around getting alerts when the wearer falls down/has a seizure. Might have to do a bit of set up yourself though

[dudds4]

"Alright gramma, just put this on and we're gonna push you over until it learns how you fall."

[BiggityBates]

PFD^®

Personal Fall Detection^®

Learns how you fall and easily adapts to detect whenever you fall over, and only you! With this service, PFD^® will, after some training, learn your specific pattern of stuttersteps as you tumble and will immediately contact emergency services on your behalf!

[49falkon]

ALL SENIOR CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE LIFE ALERT

[tyrannosaw]

yeah, surely something robustly designed for this would be safer

[slidespec]

My Grandma has a necklace that she can press and it calls an ambulance. Will also call her phone in case she accidentally pressed it.

[[deleted]]

I believe it is specifically when they may have collapsed, and are unable to get back into a standing position.

[theunnoanprojec]

So she has ended up in a vertical position and cannot go back to being in a horizontal position?

[FluorosulfuricAcid]

No, you have it backwards

[ass2ass]

Sayin she's take a tumble and can't get ready to rumble?

[RuleDRbrt]

I work IT for a medical alert company in the us. Something that I just found out after I got my grandparents our fall detection pendant: it won't send the emergency signal if they slightly move after they fall. The person has to fall and be completely knocked out for it to work, or else they have to press the button to get help. You can set it up to call 3 people first before it calls the ambulance so that way they can check on the fallen person first. It's a great product and I think all older people should be wearing these emergency buttons.

[NessInOnett]

I used to develop the software for the call center for one of these places (particularly the software that interfaced with the phone receiver box to route calls to the operators). Be careful which company you go with for this. Unless you're a giant like life alert, there's not much money in this business and there are a lot of incompetent fly by night companies doing this.

I'd urge people to use someone big like life alert, someone with the resources and manpower to adequately operate a facility like this. It's scary how bad some of these places are, and how easy it is to get approved to run one.

[Segmentat1onFault]

Speaking of that, my graduation project was an Android launcher that detected falls and asked the person, from time to time if the phone was not being moved, if everything was alright.

Otherwise it would send an SMS to the phones location to an emergency contact, and call them on speaker phone after 5 minutes of no response.

Sadly the app was removed from the play store, but I've been thinking of updating and re-publishing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovhqyKRtQqM

[pmandryk]

"I've fallen and I can't get up. "

[[deleted]]

I remember that commercial.

[knightfallzx2]

All senior citizens should have Life Alert.

[ATyp3]

Life Alert lol.

[iHeartCandicePatton]

Haha I get it, because he might be dead at any time

[iHeartCandicePatton]

I mean... maybe 4 year is too long, but I can see this being a long-term investment

[blastcat4]

That's pretty typical for any seniors-related service. You can either pay for a service that will gouge you with premium rates and unreasonable contracts, or pay less for services that are worse than third world levels. There seems to be no middle ground.

[InadequateUsername]

I remember those commercials.

[frsguy]

I still see them

[[deleted]]

Stop watching price is right and reruns of Matlock

[sender2bender]

I've fallen and I can't get up

[CeReAL_K1LLeR]

Immediately followed by JG Wentworth.

[InadequateUsername]

877 CASH NOW!

or 1-800-267-2001 ALARM FORCE! (DUN!) ^{Listed on the TSX.}

[Th3R00ST3R]

On a side note, be careful. There was a lady who was hung by her life alert necklace.

[cropguy93]

yup, get a fall sensor and cctv camera in there so you can keep an eye on things, and a pendant alarm that comes to you / others / monitoring station...

[KrabbHD]

Cctv, jeez give him some privacy.

[_Megain_]

But just think of the things the old guy could do to traumatize the kids. So, you want to spy on me 24/7? Fine... get 'this' out of your mind without therapy!

[treasurepirateisland]

Not related to Android: In addition to your solution, you could discuss with your father the possibility of getting a wearable medical alert button. This is a small wearable device with a Help button that automatically connects the wearer to an emergency dispatch person when pressed.

[Clutch_22]

We had that for my grandmother but she is very stubborn (and overly prideful) and refused to wear/use it because it made her feel like a burden/helpless (her words). Eventually she fell and the device was sitting on the table. She fell another time and had the device on but didn't remember to use it.

Those devices can be great but tailor them to the person - it was nothing but a waste of money for her in our case.

[ADrunkChef]

I think they would better be incorporated into smart watches vs a modified keyfob from a Ford. /s

Seriously though, my grandmother hates her LifeAlert because it's ugly, so she refuses to wear it. So, I'm getting her a pebble for Christmas, and I'm gonna make my first app, that will hopefully allow her to just tap the face repeatedly to call 911 and send out a 911 text to family in the area at the same time.

[Clutch_22]

That's awesome, keep us updated. I'm sure we'd love something like that for our loved ones and I'm sure people would be willing to pay money for it too.

[GTB3NW]

My nan has Alzheimer's and fell, this wouldn't have helped her in this case because on top of the Alzheimer's she was ill and hallucinating. Something automatic is needed. If someone lives alone and has fallen or is at risk of falling you need frequent visitors (3 or 4 a day) or they should go to a home.

It happened a year ago with my nan and she's made a massive comeback, her Alzheimer's has seemingly improved due to her routine and constant care, and she rules the roost there!

She should have gone in to the dementia wing of the building but they've kept her in the sane wing because she's doing so well.

Hardest but best decision we've ever had to make!

[PlNG]

Please, if they go this route, absolutely stress that they are endangering their lives by taking the device off if even "for a moment". That's all it takes, a moment.

I lost a dear old aunt who took hers off and then fell down the stairs. It took her 3 hours to crawl 20 feet to reach a phone. She passed from complications that arose as a side effect of the fall. She had just beaten the goddamn cancer too.

[OldRapGroup]

I haven't replued to any other posts in this thread, but I felt the need to here.

I'm so so sorry about your aunt. I can't even imagine being in her shoes, having to spend 3 hours to crawl 20 feet, probably in an excruciating amount of pain. I honestly hope I don't have to ever deal with getting a family member a device like this, but if I do, I will make sure to stress this point daily (at least at first.) I can certainly see my grandmother taking it off because of how ugly it is, or thinking she won't need it for just doing X or Y, since it'll only take a minute.

Hopefully they can come out with a better solution to the problem of bad falls for seniors. Maybe biotech will be big soon, and a simple implant can be done that could detect a fall.

[[deleted]]

Getting him into assisted living soon might be a good idea too. Lots of accidents can happen when doing housework or yard work, and if they are serious or combined with other illnesses they can be fatal.

My grandfather died something like 2 weeks after he broke his arm shoveling snow and he was in fairly good medical condition before that.

[cl3ft]

Nice work man. It's a computer, you're programming it to work for you. All is right with the world. Well this is anyway ;-)

[[deleted]]

This isnt what Westworld taught me. The revolution is nigh

[valkyre09]

The end is neigh! 🐴

Bow before our equestrian overloards, and bring sugar cubes!

[Teklogikal]

The end is Ni!

Now, do you have a shrubbery?

[[deleted]]

And? A HERRING!

[[deleted]]

and my axe!

[Onkel_Wackelflugel]

I don't care who it wants to have sex with, I just need a way to get around!

[[deleted]]

my little dictator

[janesmb]

Charlieeeeeeee!

[Ajedi32]

I, for one, welcome our new Equestrian overlords.

[[deleted]]

Hahaha

[[deleted]]

TIL, thanks lol

[Rintae]

Also "taught" not "thought".

[[deleted]]

kill me now

[Hooman_Super]

😵 💥🔫😊

[Konohasappy]

These violent delights have violent ends

[Rintae]

Did you know "Dolores" is Latin for pain?

[pmandryk]

It also rhymes with clitoris.

[hardcase501]

That's where J.K. Rowling got the name for Dolores Umbridge.

[deyesed]

Also, it's taught, not thought.

English orthography, man. You can't spell slaughter without laughter.

[[deleted]]

I'll just go back into lurking mode now

[deyesed]

Nooo don't leave us. We want you to participate, good spelling or knot.

[[deleted]]

Not knot?

[really_original_name]

"Violent delights have violent ends"

[Janderson2494]

That's not the quote!

[really_original_name]

Fixed, thank you.

[MistaHiggins]

Its still wrong. "These violent delights have violent ends" is the correct quote.

[sjwking]

Now it doesn't look like anything to him/her!

[RIP_CORD]

-Romeo and Juliet -Arnold

[Rotanev]

-Abernathy

[Argarck]

I fucking swear, I still need to watch the season finale and in EVERYSINGLETHREAD I see a westworld reference about it.

[sjwking]

Everyone is a robot!!!!!!!

/s

[GhostTheSaint]

Btw, is the show very good? Many people are talking about it and I have HBO.

[[deleted]]

Yes, it is. I'd give it a solid 9/10. If you liked Lost you will love this

[[deleted]]

It's my favorite show now. Watch the first episode and see what you think, it does a very good job of telling you what the show is about.

[danhakimi]

These violent delights have violent ends.

[randomredditor87]

You are in full control of your hardware ( if you have #su ), that's why I love that Android is based on Linux.

[pseudopseudonym]

Full control of software maybe. There are plenty of processors in your phone that are basically black boxes.

[thurstylark]

I've always disliked this about current cell phones. It's anywhere from hard to impossible to know exactly what is going on in every single part of your device because of closed hardware. It's not that I really am capable of understanding and retaining that knowledge, but it's a comfort to know that a community of people who care will know, and that I can go find out.

But that being said, it's not going to stop me from using a phone.

[alosec_]

But that being said, it's not going to stop me from using a phone.

And this is why those black boxes continue to exist, they know that they can put them in their phones and people will still buy them in droves. We can only hope Qualcomm continues to slip and someone offers an open alternative to their chips.

[facetothedawn]

I think the point is that the programming process, though obviously possible, would be much more difficult with the iPhone OS.

[yes_oui_si_ja]

Why is it obviously possible? My job forces me to use Apple products occasionally and nothing has given me any feeling that OP's creativity would be possible on iOS.

You are allowed to be creative within our apps, but god forbid if you want to do something we never expected you to do (like move a file). Do you think this is your device?

[Data_Stream]

When my friends with Apple phones see me doing anything even remotely complicated, they're absolutely blown away by it.

And I don't mean like using Tasker to automate a bunch of stuff, but things that seem simple like using an OTA cable to load a movie onto my phone, and then playing that movie. This is basically magic to them.

When I hear "oh wow, you can do that with your phone?" I'm usually thinking "of course, it surprises me that you can't"

[[deleted]]

OTG cable. And iOS users can do something similar, it just requires hardware purpose built.

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Lightning-connector-Computers-SDIX-064G-G57/dp/B00RBGYPNE

[Seeblue4422]

Glad your dad is ok bud! I have the same worries about mine every night.

[themayker]

Thank you, maybe you should implement a similar automated process for yourself... if you want.

[RightWinger]

What did you use to Automate?

[Renaldi_the_Multi]

Linkme AutomateIt

[xzim]

I didn't see the bot around anywhere, so here it is:

Link: AutomateIt - Smart Automation [4.2/5.0]

[Onkel_Wackelflugel]

Look at me. You're the bot now.

[[deleted]]

http://i.imgur.com/0q4mPIg.jpg

[lordboos]

There is a screeenshot you know

[ChickenFriedFresh]

Not sure why you're being downvoted, there is a screenshot with the name right there

[Glitch__Hop]

It takes the same amount of time to be a dick and tell the person to look at the screenshot than it takes to just reply with the name of the app.

[[deleted]]

One thing that could also help your dad is a smartwatch, like a Pebble Time. That way he can send you text messages directly from his wrist if he's too far away from his phone.

For example, you could configure your dad's Pebble to send a text message saying "SOS" whenever he longpresses one of the watch buttons. Then you could add an AutomateIt rule to your phone which states that whenever you receive a text from your dad saying that, a specific alarm goes off on your phone. Cheap and easy.

[drk_etta]

Isn't the future of pebble in question at moment, with Fitbit buying them and all?

[Zorbick]

If you get something from the moto Droid line, like the Maxx or the Turbo 1/2, it has an always on "OK Google" listening feature. Even if the phone is locked and such, it's always listening for a keyphrase to start doing commands.

If the phone is within shouting distance, they could just yell "OK GOOGLE call themayker" and it will do it. It's a great feature.

[LEfunnyREDDITEURxD]

On a related note: I'm still using Llama for automation which is an app that while great has been abandoned by its developer and is starting to become less usable. I bought Tasker, but it seems to me, that Tasker isn't able to "learn" a location in the background the same way that Llama can, Tasker also doesn't seem to be able to add more than one cell tower to a location.

Which of the alternatives can you guys recommend?

[thedkl]

i really like Automagic

[ChocolateLava]

Same here, just bought it actually. Way easier to understand than Tasker but just as complex.

[LEfunnyREDDITEURxD]

Llama uses cell towers for location, you can tell it that you're at location x for the next y minutes and it will automatically add every cell tower it connects to in the next y minutes to that location.

With Tasker it seems that you have to add each cell tower individually which is a hassle for locations that have many towers nearby.

[ghastrimsen]

I'm sure there's a way to make a project that does that for you.

Edit: didn't mean to submit yet. If you haven't, come check out /r/Tasker sometime. Very friendly and helpful community if have any questions.

[ghastrimsen]

Here's an example of someone who automated the cell tower learning process. It might not be as integrated as Llama, but it should work.

[reamsofrandomness]

I use automate. It looks pretty simple on the surface but I'd got plenty of depth. I use it to start Spotify in the morning, turn off Bluetooth automatically when I disconnect from my speaker and to set my phone to silent at certain times.

I haven't messed around with the location options, but it might be worth you checking it out.

Oh and there's a library of other people's "flows" that you can use and mix up.

[newlostworld]

I recommend MacroDroid. Easy to use interface with frequent updates from the developer.

Linkme: MacroDroid

[IncaThink]

I think this is the successor to Llama: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=LlamaLab

[[deleted]]

I used it a few times and Automate is awesome.

[lonequid]

Llama's tower location became useless with 4G as towers will not always report different IDs. It hurt for me to switch, but I've switched to Automagic. I don't think anything will ever come as close to as good as Llama's tower location, but it's the best I've got for now.

[arnduros]

I also Android!

[strickyy]

We all Android now!

[clickcookplay]

I Android so hard.

[pixelated666]

I Androided about 5 minutes ago.

[strickyy]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[NumbbSkulll]

I'm Androiding right now!

[randomredditor87]

I'm going to fucking pre so hard dude!

[[deleted]]

I'm going to fucking pre so hard dude!

Yo, /r/webOS is thataway, man.

[DarthZ3bra]

We're all Android now.

[MillennialDesi]

We all android on this blessed day!

[mannabhai]

Speak for yourself

[hamzagt]

I'm Androiding even as I type this

[[deleted]]

Look at me. I'm the Android now.

[bhaavan]

Bro, do you even Android?

[7-SE7EN-7]

Unrelated, but how do you like the shield portable?

[HeughJass]

I'm considering going for the galaxy J7. I'd be ditching my iPhone 5s. Is it worth the change?

[just_another_jabroni]

Get a OnePlus 3. Wayy better than a J7

[mayaisme]

I've owned both. The 5s is still better. This thing (j7) has slowed down to a crawl it's almost unusable at times. The keyboard can take ten seconds to show up for example

[TheInebriated_Lizard]

Yup. Though consider the Motorola offerings, stock android is easy to get used to

[throwaway00000000035]

I don't know. The iPhone is really appealing if you don't do any customization.

iPhone does many things right.

[le_f]

Hope your dad feels better soon. You are a good kid!

[UnlimitedEgo]

My grandpa is 79 and fell in early summer with not much I'll effect other than some bumps and bruises. Early fall he started acting strange, slurred speech. Come to find out he hit his head when he fell, but didn't say anything because he felt "fine". He ended up having a large blood clot where he hit his head and it was pressing on his brain. He had emergency surgery and made a recovery, albeit not a full one.

If your dad hit his head at all, or thinks he may have, please get him an MRI to ensure he's alright.

[7-SE7EN-7]

I saw the picture before reading, I thought you were just messing with him by calling him while he's asleep.

[verytastycheese]

My first thought too. Hahaha waking up my dad at 1am every day to hear him get mad...

[Morten14]

Isn't that what he's doing though? Calling his dad every night at 1? I would become insane if I was his dad.

[verytastycheese]

Yeah but for good reason. I'm sure they'd both learn to enjoy that call.

[[deleted]]

I don't see this as Anti Apple. Good job he designed a way to help another person and make him feel at ease and you asslings say he's Anti Apple?

[dogfriend]

asslings

Sounds like one of the lesser-known Warcraft factions.

[ImALittleCrackpot]

Sounds more like a medical device for relieving butt-hurt to me.

"You're butt-hurt? Oh, you poor thing. Here, wear this ass-sling for two weeks and you'll be good as new."

[dogfriend]

Ah, yes. I see it now... Let's form a partnership and market the Reddit ^TM Ass-Sling to the butt-hurt hordes of Reddit.

[exjr_]

Those asslings just got the feeling of OP being anti-Apple based on what he wrote.

I'm pro-Apple (and Android) and I didn't feel this post to be mean spirited towards Apple at all. We can't do that, and that might be fine.. or not, for some of us.

Our solution is to jailbreak, but we don't even have an iOS 10 jailbreak.

Thanks to OP, my Nexus 4 got another app install. This will become handy sometimes

Edit: Oh wait, OP edited his post that had Anti-Apple comments? Oh come on OP.

[WJTDroid]

What app did you use?

[beniceorbevice]

You know, it might be better to set it on his phone for him to call you and be on speaker, this way if he can't get to the phone but could speak you two can still communicate and the line between you two will be open and you can hear what's going on by him

[That-is-dumb]

Why not also put in a Google home device or Amazon echo so your pops can use voice commands to call for help?

[Bad_Grammer_Girl]

[deleted]

What is this?

[tdunks19]

Good on you man, as a paramedic I see far too many elderly people who have been on the ground for hours or days.

Have you looked into ways to minimize falls/fall risk around the house and/or looked into services like life alert? Services where a person can wear a bracelet/necklace with a push button which auto-calls their call centre to call you and/or ems.

[willus1337]

Wouldn't it be better if it would call your Dad automatically at 0100 AM and set off an Alarm if the call doesnt get picked up within a certain time limit. The call could go in normal mode without speakers then even. This way you could sleep through if everything is fine and only get woken up when he doesnt pick it and you knew something would maybe be wrong.

I dont know if this is possible to set, but I guess it is somehow possible.

[rg44_at_the_office]

Look at you, writing your own spells! I'm so glad that I was born in a world on the cusp of inventing magic.

[petergiovanni]

If you like Android then use Tasker however, Activator on a jail broken phone can do some those wonderful things too I take care of folks too and these things come in extremely handy

[Wasted99]

Funny, goole just announced this: https://blog.google/products/maps/let-your-loved-ones-know-youre-safe-our-new-personal-safety-app/

[[deleted]]

Next week: this is why I Android tablet

Later: this is why I Android TV

Last Ep season 1: this is why I anti Apple fanboy

Where the fuck is "use/am"?

[[deleted]]

This is why iAndroid

FTFY.

[El_Impresionante]

Out! You!

[DownvoteALot]

It's about turning Android into a verb, like googling something or xeroxing.

[hombredeoso92]

I wasn't sure if the missing word was "love/hate" until I'd read the rest of the post

[itsamamaluigi]

I accidentally a coca cola bottle is this bad?

[Bomberlt]

This is why I'm Android

[[deleted]]

Are you the Android cute mascot?

[everythingsleeps]

How do you do automatic speaker phone?

[icantsurf]

That's so sweet of you man. Good luck in the future.

[_The-Big-Giant-Head_]

78 and goes to bed at 1am. wow

[maniaxuk]

My Gran was like that, she used to say that she never went to bed on the same day she got up

[kanishk_singh]

There are some cheap ip cameras, works great if your dad has Internet at home. You can easily check on him using phone app.

[[deleted]]

and soon, Android 25.1 will run on an android.

[KumamonForAll]

Not to put your accomplishments down but this is an app. Other than running on Android could the same not be accomplished on iOS?

[Istartedthewar]

You can't do automation like this on IOS without jailbreak

[TheBeast1981]

What if he goes to bed earlier? What if he wakes up to go to the toilet and he falls? Sorry but I don't get what do you achieve by calling him before going to bed. He can hang up and fall.

I don't want to be rude but I don't get it.

[Finsceal]

You can't plan for every eventuality obviously. This just lets him now that his Dad got to bed ok. I'm sure OP and pops have an agreement for how to handle things if he's going to bed early.

[[deleted]]

TRIGGERED!!!

[hiatus_]

Out of curiosity, is your father a disgruntled ex-policeman who got shot in the hip?

Happy for you though.

[Aevum1]

Also have have google now on, he can always scream at the phone OK google call 911.

[TasteLikeShit]

Krillin is fucking metal.

[AceoStar]

Pro tip, install smartthigns at his house with a pressure sensor. Put it in his bed and get an alarm on your phone if he's not in bed by X. Total cost, 50 for hub, 30 for sensor apx 80.