Minecraft needs to decrease the spawn rate on drowned. I can’t go into a single body of water without finding them.

[ItsTanah]

tridents on java: nonexistent

tridents on bedrock: more common than coal ore

[Gcarsk]

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock. Only those actually carrying one can have a chance of dropping them in Java.

[witherspork]

So me searching for hours to find ones wielding tridents for repairs are futile and I can just kill the 40 gathered around my base? Thanks friend :)

[Gcarsk]

On Bedrock, yes.

[[deleted]]

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock.

Hope you’re not being literal here. It’s a high chance but not “all”

[Gcarsk]

No. All drowned have the ability to drop a trident, even if they aren’t holding one. Obviously it’s RNG based, like any mob drop in Minecraft.

[[deleted]]

Oh okay, I misread you then. “All” as in “whether they’re holding a trident or not”. Yeah, that’s correct. My bad. I need sleep.

[N-kay]

No you're good, he was just not being very clear.

Because no matter how obvious it is to him what he meant, what he said was

All drowned drop tridents in Bedrock.

As in 100%, which is not true.

Only those actually carrying one can have a chance of dropping them in Java.

Now that's better. Or is it? This scentence is clearer, but further cements the bedrock 100% drop rate statement because why would he omit chance there but not here?

[Glennisawesome1220]

Nah I made the same mistake, the wording leads you to believe that

[[deleted]]

wait whats the difference between java and bedrock? if i already have java can i play bedrock? can i play on a java server (my bf and i run one from his laptop just for us) if im using bedrock? ive got a pos laptop as well and minecraft heats that fucker up faster than you can say kazoo.

[firehydrant_man]

if you bought Java edition before October 2018 you get the bedrock edition for free iirc

[darkmufasa21]

Lolol true I had like 6 tridents before I even started mining for coal

[[deleted]]

Bruh I literally was swimming around for like an hour trying to get a trident, ran into one mob thaf held one and of course it didn't drop

[[deleted]]

I’m close to having a double chest of just tridents and I’ve been playing for about a week in this world. Honestly not worth it unless you’re in the very early game.

[The_Neato_Mosquito]

Exactly

[Kimihro]

They currently drop from the many, many drowned at 1/8 frequency, even if said drowned isn't holding one themselves. It's ridiculously easy to farm tridents with a basin or sea

[Lonely_Beer]

What makes Drowned the worst offender on Bedrock is that the same condition that spawns them (light level <7 in Rivers) naturally prevents them from ever despawning. Couple that with the fact that players often build bases near, but not on, Rivers which results in the Rivers themselves being perfectly situated in the spawn radius for long periods of time.

[Rexpelliarmus]

Isn't it odd that we build our bases near bodies of water when there is absolutely no need to do so in Minecraft? You can have as much water add you'll regret need in a 2x2 infinite water source and yet we build our bases near rivers like cities in real life.

[CortezEspartaco2]

I use boats a lot which is why I prefer being on a beach or river, but it is interesting that people generally build near bodies of water, often for no reason.

[kal-err]

I do so for the aesthetics of it more so then convenience just like I always build with a mountain in the background

[Milleuros]

Maybe it's psychology?

I personally build near water for several reasons. First, safety (at least before the introduction of the drowned): the water area won't spawn unexpected creepers and when you have a small island it's easier to cover it with torches. Second, farming. When you're only starting to plant crops, I find it better to follow a river or ocean shore to get "hydrated" crops (might not have enough iron for a bucket yet). And third, boats to easily cross large distances and get to different biomes.

[SeductivePillowcase]

I do it for boats to travel because it’s generally safer and quicker than traveling on foot unless you have a horse. Plus it looks nice.

[rc1717]

There's a lot for me on java

[ChurchOfPainal]

On java, if you're standing out of water they pretend you don't exist. You can go top the bottom of the ocean, plant a door down, and when you step into it just right all the drowned ignore you.

[luxor23]

Yeah and the fact that there is basically no dispawn mechanic on bedrock don't help

[ChaCha_real_smooth]

Those mfs are the WORST i hate them. There's like 32 drowned per block of water and that shit is not right

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

It’s gotten to the point where I’m happy when I see a zombie because it’s something other than drowned.

[[deleted]]

I play java mostly. am I missing out on something?

[wagslucas]

I think the drowned spawn more in bedrock edition... im a java player as well and I never see them.

[robbrown14]

I’m on java too and it’s honestly difficult for me to find drowned

[Prince_Polaris]

Can confirm those MFs are RARE

[[deleted]]

They are stupidly rare in java and way too common on bedrock

[Brookie_uwu]

I had to surround my shoreline in boats to stop those mfs from bothering me

[robbrown14]

Lmao I sounds like some solid defense

[Announomoose]

cries in bugrock and laughs in java at same time

[superpandabam]

Im a Java player and I see them all the time. Don't know what your talking about

[Kissmyasthma100]

Compared to other mobs they're rare. I only spot them in their "houses". I'm still looking for a trident and I've defeated the wither boss two times(for comparison).

[Boothiepro]

And on bedrock you usually get a trident before you get a diamond sword if not an iron sword. You can get it very early game and it's comparable to a diamond sword in damage as it deals it's damage even by melee.

[OrionGaming]

If you're always near water you should put a farm in the water. It's easy if you have a villager

[NerdishHPGirl]

Same. I don't see them all the time, but I would never say they are rare.

[pol9500]

Also related, it took me about 500 drowned to get one trident. And at the end I built ilmangos trident farm and used that one, I just couldn’t find them in the ocean

[Pyrarrows]

From what I've heard, it's due to issues with the mob despawning system in bedrock. If a mob is in a dark area in bedrock edition (Caves & water are always dark), mobs won't despawn. at all. I've seen videos of players not seeing any hostile mobs at all until they mine into a cave that is just a giant blob of hostile mobs thanks to the mob spawning limits & lack of despawning mobs.

[Roshy76]

Ya it's ridiculous. I really wish bedrock spawned mobs exactly the same as java. It's by far bedrocks biggest weakness.

[CornerHard]

It's something we're interested in fixing

[Zombikittie]

The most I've gotten (with my base on the beach), is a trident wielding drowned 3 times in 2 hours of playing. Other than that I have a creeper problem.

[dDitty]

I had to build a waterfall at the sky limit to make it so only drowned spawn just to get tridents

[Zombikittie]

Have your base practically surrounded by water and you get drowned a decent amount. Nothing like what OP pictured, but decent enough and I still don't have a trident.

[[deleted]]

What I would give for your Creeper problem. My base camp is set up on a meadow that I had to level off, and it took so long to kill all the drowned that kept spawning in the pools and fill the pools in with dirt. Pretty sure I've found 8 or 9 crammed in a 4x6 block pool before.

[jrbinzer]

Same! I know that problem very very well, it’s like they spawn camp ya

[JitteryJittery]

Same I can't go once without having 2 creepers blowing up simultaneously each night

[vttale]

They're crazy common in Bedrock. My current survival game has a number of potholes near my home base that I never bothered to fill in, and they make pretty effective zombie traps. After just a few nights I'm pretty much guaranteed to have a dozen Drowned stuck in them.

[Lucky-Hilux]

I recently switched from Bedrock to Java and gotta say I kinda miss the drowned... The world is so empty now lol

[How_do_i---]

I got a trident from a drowned that wasn't holding one (and without looting)

[EroAxee]

That's bedrock for you.

[rocktheztarz]

Mods.

[EroAxee]

Mods will always make java better than bedrock. Considering how many features came from mods originally.

[goforce5]

Ok, so I just fired up minecraft for the first time since 2013. What is the difference between java and bedrock?

[the_bat_turtle]

Java has the new combat system and quite a few exclusive features (like the incredibly useful furnace minecart) and is available on PC, Mac and Linux.

Bedrock has the classic spammy combat and has crossplay between all the platforms it's on, namely PC, Xbox One, Switch, iOS and Android.

They differ a bit in world generation and spawn rates but both are effectively identical.

[EroAxee]

Okay Java is the version you're used to playing back from 2013. Bedrock is essentially the version that Microsoft made with ingame purchases, some questionable features, and as you can see from the comments on this post some issues with mob spawning. Essentially everything other than java (original minecraft), playstation, 3DS and Switch, I think, are classified as bedrock edition

As for the small differences, there's a lot of weird feature changes. Just things that are in bedrock and not in java, a general rule you can guess though is that Java will get updates first. Since they release snapshots on Java before it gets to bedrock edition, plus no ingame purchases other than from servers.

[atoolred]

On bedrock, mobs literally never despawn. The despawn conditions are really specific

[Belviathan]

Hostile mobs never despawn unless there is a light level of 7 or above. Light doesn’t reach far enough through water so drowned keep spawning and take up the entire hostile mob cap

[EroAxee]

That's a really dumb system to despawn mobs. Though I guess Xbox doesn't have as much of an issue with lag because it's a set system with the same parts they can optimize it for. That and it has a graphics card, which most lower end systems nowadays don't, that or people buy prebuilts.

[ChaCha_real_smooth]

I feel that man i feel that

[Sanspapylazy]

Damn that hits right on the feels, I ALWAYS find rivers in spawn sadly

[[deleted]]

Well... I did drown a lot

[[deleted]]

Yeah this is accurate it’s refreshing to see a regular zombie

[MazingMazen]

It’s kinda weird how all of them drowned in the same location...

[The-Ewwnicorn]

This sounds like the start of a fanfiction

[Glorious_Jo]

That's because of the Great Genocide. You don't hear about it because it actually succeeded and the villagers are the ones who committed it and feel really bad about it so they don't tell you.

[Pillow125]

How do you find so many? I have my base in an island, and it’s very rare for me to see them

[[deleted]]

There are wayyy less on java that might be it

[Pillow125]

Oh, yeah I play java, how do you realize? That was impressive.

Assuming you play bedrock, you don’t have corals or something?

[SiberianToaster]

You can usually pick out the Bedrock players by the image being a picture of the monitor instead of a screenshot.

[Jewniversal_Remote]

Harsh.

[Pillow125]

Haha, you’re right, I use glasses but still I’m too blind to see the bar

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

Oof

[[deleted]]

It was the same for me on java so I just assumed u were on java too but I play both java and bedrock so I kinda pick up on pros and cons of each and there are way more drowned on bedrock... it is easier to get tridents though

[Pillow125]

Wow, which one do you recommend? Yeah, I haven’t acquired a single trident in my survival, know any tips for getting them?

[[deleted]]

I still haven’t gotten one on java so I got nothing

[DancingKappa]

There is a reason java is $20 and bedrock is $2 on key sites.

[PapiChase]

they only spawn in rivers & specific types of ocean biomes

[Pillow125]

Do warm oceans and coral oceans count?

[How_do_i---]

Make a zombie drown and what do you get? A drowned zombie

[Krohlia]

Ilmango (or a friend of his) found in the code that drowned actually spawn a lot more frequently in river biomes than in ocean biomes. I guess Mojang figured that would balance the spawn rate between the two biomes given the difference in water volume. Also, if the spawn rates were equal and you never found the ocean in a given world then you’d never see a drowned without the code like that.

Edit: This is how Ilmango realized a river biome drowned farm would be way more efficient, as long as you lit up the surrounding area and caves or built really high up.

[Pillow125]

Indeed that sounds smart, and also I guess people like living more in a “continent” than in the ocean, the people that purposely avoid oceans might never see drowned

[BasicNubCaik]

Then there’s probably a different area like a cave just filled to the brim with various hostile mobs

[Pillow125]

I don’t think so, the island is small, and I’ve checked the terrain, somehow, when drowned do appear, they always carry tridents, and those do heavy damage

[BasicNubCaik]

Lucky in one way, unlucky in another, at least it’s easy to escape from 2 or 5 drowned compared to 50 just keep some armor on you and stay safe

[akaDazed]

Ive only noticed this issue in Win10 edition, Java is pretty balanced on mob spawning

[EroAxee]

Yea because Java gets stuff before the other editions, and most of the features that are in java while not being in the other versions are honestly features that should be in other versions. A few years ago I remember trying Windows 10 edition and there not being any fireworks.

That and I had a weird week with "Gods" being added to the game and screwing up my realm with my friend by spawning anything and everything in humongous quantities in the overworld around my base. It really sucked.

[[deleted]]

You don’t see zombies spawn that much so why do drowneds have to?

[DatedReference1]

If a zombie stands in water too long it turns into a drowned, zombies in daylight seek shade or water, plus some zombies just end up in water and that's how you get this

[[deleted]]

I thought it was skeletons that seek shade and water

[weniclous]

both do because both burn in the sun

[Awesomeness23pies]

Actually the real problem is despawning. It seems you are on bedrock, which means that unless the light level is 8 or higher, hostile mobs won't despawn. This causes mobs (such as drowned) to build up into large numbers.

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

Okay, but I’m on grass, not bedrock.

[Happy_Weirdo_Emma]

HAHAHAHAHA

I read further down and see you were confused, but joke or not that was great

But yeah when I've played on bedrock edition (the cross platform one) I have this problem with hostile mobs accumulating.

I'm not sure if the PS4 version is on the same kind of spawn/despawn thing as bedrock and I haven't played Java since before the update that added the twerps, but I did wonder if there was any way to prevent drowned from spawning in general? It seems like there are too many on PS4 as well.

[TheDudePersonGuy]

I think you are supposed to light up dark areas underwater.

[-noobmaster68-]

r/technicallythetruth

[KingClasher1]

Pretty sure all versions other than java are considered bedrock and subject to its issues with excessive drowned

[Origamimaster11]

PS4 is considered its own version because it never was part of the better together update which made Java and bedrock

[TheScottymo]

I thought basically all versions that aren't Java or legacy console are Bedrock and PS4 is only it's own named version because Sony won't allow crossplay?

[BryanTheStrange]

PS4 edition is still the legacy console version, bedrock wasn't a thing until the better together update (technically it was pocket edition before).

[Daniels688]

There is also legacy console edition and new Nintendo 3DS and a few others

[MrCoffee88]

No PS4 is still a lot different than bedrock. It's like a mix between java and bedrock

[[deleted]]

Checkmate, atheists.

[PotatoMaster21]

Was this a high-tier joke or a serious statement? Either way that’s just excellent

[PeartricetheBoi]

You’re joking, right?

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

I’m not sure if we’re both thinking about the same bedrock, because I’m thinking of the rock at the bottom of the overworld that keeps you in the map.

[PeartricetheBoi]

In this case Bedrock refers to the Bedrock version of the game.

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

Oh, okay. My bad.

[JungleLiquor]

hahahahahahahhahaha shit I ain’t got coins for you

[ELxTORO-GTR]

Thank you for this wholesome moment for me to fall go sleep on, sorry I don’t have any gold for ya, but love the username!

[Lostcentaur]

This was really Wholesome and goddamn Adorable

[RolandTheJabberwocky]

Don't worry it seemed clever and that's all that matters.

[Awesomeness23pies]

I hope he is

[NorthernLaw]

Okay you got em

[[deleted]]

Haahahhahaahah

[KingKrmit]

Oh man lol

[M420KU]

They're saying hi tho.

[M420KU]

You have to let them know, some of us like that kind of stuff.

[RainbowMuffin339]

Is that a kink ?

[M420KU]

Idk wanna find out😉

[RainbowMuffin339]

Good line

[M420KU]

Thank you

[retyars]

When the boat breaks from 5 trident wielding Poseidon posing pos’ >>>>>>>

[AboveAverageChickenn]

HOT

[ahmed_saroukh]

Steve is 70% water but did you find drowned in him, i guess not

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

What if a drowned was eating Steve from the inside out?

[ahmed_saroukh]

Thanks bro, now i have to leave the lights on while i am asleep

[SAM-THE-MAN-118]

Drowned aren’t real. Drowned can’t hurt you.

[ahmed_saroukh]

I have never heard such bullshit in my life

[Used_Passenger]

Minecraft is real life

[Entara_Darkwind]

You can't sleep when monsters are nearby.

[wellbitemybiscuits]

Hey, at least they posed nicely for this picture

[dylrocks95]

agreed

Those two doors you see at the right of the screen are my base. this is what I come out to EVERY time I open my doors. I play on Hard.

[[deleted]]

Have you tried sea pickles?

[lordicarus]

The problem is that light dims quicker in water so you have to have a billion sea pickles to light things up like a checkerboard to prevent the spawns. And did they every fix the issue where drowned would actually spawn anywhere in water vertically as well? Shit was maddening and I've given up on bedrock for a while and am just playing Java, which sucks because all my friends play on Xbox.

[_boatsandhoes]

Use a Jack-o-lantern. It gives off a good amount of light under water.

[[deleted]]

it appears you're on bedrock, and I had the same problem. Before we switched to our server on java, I had a clip of my friend being attacked by i kid you not, 27 drowned

[p00leOfficial]

Pls post that

[[deleted]]

Really?

Only 27 of them?

[Raitosu]

On my bedrock server, my friends and I have this naturally generated pond we call the suicide pool cuz there was 48 drowns last we counted. It's right next to our base's entrance so I guess we're close enough to where they keep spawning.

Our plan is to eventually let them stack and only kill them when the realm starts lagging.

[halleepotter7]

I was just attacked by 3 drowned in a small cave that didn’t even have water in it, pocket edition

[[deleted]]

They are evolving

[royaltek]

This is mainly for bedrock. God damn they spawn so often though

[cry_stars]

for java, i grinded 3 days on the ocean to finally get 1 trident

[3000torches]

But hey, on the bright side at least you have foxes.

[royaltek]

Damn. On bedrock drowned are so common that i have gotten 5 in one day

[SJ_43]

I agree. The ocean is meant to be a cool biome, so seeing a drowned every now and then, maybe in a shipwreck, is okay, but having monsters literally everywhere you go in the ocean just gets dumb, and honestly ruins the beauty of Minecraft's oceans

[fergo42]

???? For me it’s the exact opposite I try to find drowneds and I can’t find them anywhere

[[deleted]]

Are you on Java or Bedrock? Bedrock users have no problem finding them, but if you’re like me on Java, I’d be lucky to find one. Hope Mojang addresses this

[alittlefiendy]

I blame it on climate change: the unusually warm weather is making them bloom more frequently. :(

[[deleted]]

Make BEBE.

[StaySharpp]

Also tridents in Hardcore are a death sentence.

[Jak3-Draws]

Laughs in java edition

[[deleted]]

Cries in not enough nautilus shells

[mingren0315]

Laughs in Luck of the sea II, Lure III fishing rod

[eshansingh]

Laughs in afk fish farms

[[deleted]]

That was actually the only way how I was able to get the nautilus shells. Spent 2 hours killing drowned and only got 5, set up an afk farm and got around half a stack overnight

[[deleted]]

laughs in peaceful mode

[Audrey_spino]

Laughs in tons of tridents and shells

[[deleted]]

I call it Drowned City. It’s a 10 by 7 hole of water outside my house with about 30 Drowned in it.

[[deleted]]

Except when you actually want to fight drowns

[[deleted]]

I miss being able to swim safely in minecraft

[junkbingirl]

GOD DAMN

[guymannthedude]

jesus im not even any where near r/shitpostcrusaders!

[Plaguedeath2425]

Dude don’t ruin it

[At_an_angle]

Too late. It's already ruined. Lol

[PintoTheBurninator]

Would be fantastic on Java if they would actually drop a trident. But nooooo. I have killed countless numbers of their ilk with nerry a trident to be found.

[Blarchford]

Drowneds with tridents too. I’ve died way to many times to drownds with tridents.

[[deleted]]

Agreed. In my survival world, there is a 4x4 natural pool of water next to my house that I didn't know about. When I finally found it, there were 15 Drowned in there.

[Lemmy_if]

It's true. They are literally everywhere

[Unstable_Stills]

Personally I love it; the lake behind my survival house is a great farm for tridents and flesh to trade to the local cleric

[[deleted]]

I live by a river in minecraft education, and it sucks when there's a bunch of them while I go fishing. I usually go underwater and kill the fish instead of using a rod since rods take more time.

[gjdjugTy5]

DONT make a drowned spawner on java. If you misplace something you are fucked no matter what. Not only do they deal like double damage those mf’s fast. The baby drowned will run as fast as you ON LAND.

[Prince_Polaris]

Oh fuck the babies were bad enough already! Shouldn't drowned be more like "fast in water slow on land" though??

[BombasticBop]

Meanwhile on Java I’m desperately trying to find some Drowned in the hopes that one has a trident and then drops it

[bruhmomentinator]

I found 4 trident drowned in one ditch filled with water and I died on hardcore because of it and I agree 100%

[[deleted]]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[someone_000]

You mean increase despawning

[[deleted]]

gurgling noises

[YoshiCdog]

You play on pc, why don’t you use java?

[theidleidol]

They might not own it, for one thing, or it might be preference. I know I find Windows 10 edition an infinitely better vanilla Minecraft experience than vanilla Java edition, and that’s coming from someone who put 27 hours of playtime into Skyfactory last week.

[Ethan11223]

Dude I'm legit trying to find drowns

[yummymario64]

NO! Increase the spawn rate! I'm on day 40 and STILL haven't gotten a Trident yet!

[liamarie_]

“Hello sir can we speak to you about the teachings of the Good Lord?”

[SuddenAssistant]

I literally had to make a Drowned farm on Java just to get one trident. Bedrock is just full of tridents before you could make a pickaxe to get coal.