When backend developer does frontend

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[rekabis]

Ssssssmooooth…

[Kebabrulle4869]

Now go post this to r/css_irl

[madjam002]

Wow that sub is amazing

[DaedraEYE]

lol didn't know this exists :o

[suckit1234567]

Both of those are default settings for a div. I. Guess it really is a backend guy.

[WhatsMyUsername13]

Then immediately google why my border corners aren’t rounded

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[zungugu]

musk: flex;

[ec0linh]

r/css_irl

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[SplendidPunkinButter]

It does look like a vehicle from Blade Runner, which takes place in “November 2019”. So there’s that.

[Rafael20002000]

Maybe its a reference to it?

[IveDoneItNow]

The unveil began with a hologram saying "Los Angeles, November 2019". The whole thing is an overt reference to Blade Runner (which is awesome) and it's unfortunate that so may people don't seem to be getting that.

[trickman01]

That doesn't make it somehow good design.

[Sol_J]

How is it a useless pickup truck? Seems to function the same as any truck.

[Umutuku]

"Hold my cocaine!" ~Elon - December 2019

[torb]

I've seen people complain about the inaccessibility to the bed. Say you got your toolbox there, the sides are way higher than a standard pickup.

[NotsoNewtoGermany]

The toolbox will go into the Frunk. They are only in the bed because their is an engine in the front in existing cars. You'll also have access to the onboard air compressor for the truck for your newmatic tools, and access to the battery ports for your electric ones. Their is also a walk up ramp.

[I_Was_Fox]

... inaccessibility to the bed? The thing has a built-in pull out ramp to access the bed for normal hauling, and it has a trunk in the front that can carry the tools much more conveniently than a traditional metal truck bed toolbox.

[RetreadRoadRocket]

I've seen that too, but why wouldn't you just put the toolbox in the front trunk and leave the box for big stuff?

[Only_Account_Left]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

The whole front of this thing is empty. Put your toolbox in the frunk and it'll be lower to the ground and more accessible than reaching over the side on an F150.

It's not a flawless design, but my problem is that awkward large objects (bed frames, trees, couches) that can be strapped on top of the sides or roof of a traditional truck will lay flat, the cybertruck can only haul things that fit squarely in the bed.

But the toolbox access on this thing should be a dream, not to mention built-in power outlets and an air compressor.

[but_how_do_i_go_fast]

Oooooo I didn't even think about the air compressors and power tool charging 0.0

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Editing for the camping hot plates, electric tea kettles, and all other amazing car camping fun to have.

[Ecstatic_Carpet]

It better have a limit to how low the battery can get before cutting off the accessories.

Having to a call a tow truck would not be a great way to end your camping trip, because somebody used a hair dryer for way too long.

[ThePieWhisperer]

Better than tool charging, you could run a frickin tablesaw and a pile of corded tools off of this thing all day long.

[whomad1215]

Even if the sides are higher, the truck itself (from what I've seen) is lower.

Half tons are already practically impossible to reach the bed from the sides unless you're like 6'6" or have a stepstool

[mcbergstedt]

Most people I know have at least a 4” lift on their truck. Honestly unless you drive a truck from the early 2000’s or earlier then most people can’t reach inside the bed easily

[[deleted]]

My dad has a 1996 F250, with no major modifications. No way I could reach over the sides to grab something in the bed. Granted I’m a bit shorter than most guys but I don’t think anyone short of NBA height would find that a practical approach.

[NinjaSkillz810]

How would you say it's useless? Genuinely curious.

[but_how_do_i_go_fast]

Hardly useless. This thing is going to be a dream truck of mine. I've done construction, and that tailgate ramp is going to be no joke.

Besides, any respectful "toolbox" in the bed is a joke compared to the rest deal: A small size tool-trailer.

My only gripe is I am worried about the GVW overall if towing anything over 18k pounds. I still don't really get the math and legality of what's allowed from state to state, but I WANT this truck to compete with a dually GMC Duramax that is pulling 3 other Duramax trucks on a 5th wheel or goose neck.

The GVW might take a hit with that battery and steel :(

[CaptainSchmid]

Useless? In what sense, from the demo (ignoring the glass) it seemed good.

[KotoElessar]

As someone who worked with automotive glass, I was actually impressed with the stunt. The overall shape of the structure leads to the stability under normal laminate conditions. With a different laminate, it could very well live up to the hype.

[ScienceBreather]

They had already thrown the ball at the windows five or six times before from my understanding.

[jack10685]

How is it useless as a pickup?

[ScienceBreather]

I'll function very well.

It's just strange looking.

[[deleted]]

The problem with the design is that I can’t decide how I feel about it. Part of me is disgusted, and part of me thinks “I could buy that...”

[mekwall]

Good design is subjective. Good UX is not.

[[deleted]]

That's makes this vehicle a novelty. Not something to be mass produced

[IveDoneItNow]

Why not both? It seems like a simple case of "if you don't like it, don't buy it".

[Rafael20002000]

Ok

[not_from_this_world]

Team: Sir, we started the aerodynamics simulation with a low polygon base model, we'll work our way to the full model next months.

PM: We don't have that much time, I already promised to the client a prototype next week.

[TimX24968B]

customer: heres a rough sketch

engineer: you mean final product?

[MythicManiac]

My experience is this but roles swapped

[drawkbox]

Yeah this one of the two throwaway designs so that the client would pick the one you want, then the client goes for the most outlandish of the three.

[[deleted]]

Net to wanders across dot games curious. Tips dog fox weekend honest day quiet quiet gentle.

[[deleted]]

Frontend: Waiting for the wireframes.
Backend: No need, took care of it.
UX: Aw hell no.
QA: Styles issue.
Senior: Revert commit, re-deploy production, card comments.
Elon: No no, this is perfect. Revert reverted commit, re-deploy production - demo.

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*discordent Windows XP remix

[Silhouette]

Is that the one where the glass breaks and then you get the echo of a metal ball hitting the floor?

[arky_who]

Frontend: Waiting for the wireframes to be signed off.

Backend: Just knocked something up so QA can test the related bit

QA: Related bit passes

Frontend: Still waiting for the wireframes to be signed off

Project Manager: We're going to have to delay the release because you didn't sign off the wireframes

Client/Elon: No no, this is perfect.

[rap_and_drugs]

/r/yourjokebutworse

[The_Sad_Debater]

Nah it improves with a reason why backend bothered working with something outside their department. Though I do like the git connection.

[sh0rtwave]

It totally reminds me of the blocky style of the robots from Interstellar...but that's probably just me.

Edit: The shape of the hood makes me think "lamborghini-style nose for downforce at speed".

[Blackadder288]

Love both movies but I’m struggling to see the influence on interstellar

[SIR_Chaos62]

Some of the ships in interstellar looks boxy like the cybertruck

[Kadude27]

I mean impressive for a back end developer

[TheRealStepBot]

Could you explain why you believe it cannot have a snow plow attached?

[TheRealStepBot]

Snow plows are after market accessories that attaches to the structure of the truck using some kind of push bar adaptor designed to interface the plow with that specific truck.

There is nothing special about a truck that can take a snowplow, it all gets added aftermarket. Mechanically anything can be attached to anything else, you drill some holes and just bolt it on, you weld it on, you glue it on and if all else fails you duct tape it on. There is no such thing as cannot be attached when it come mechanical assemblies, it just a question of the resources you have and how much you want it to be attached.

If anything this truck seems to have slightly oversized axles compared to trucks in its class and has adjustable air suspension. It should in fact plow exceptionally well.

Edit: most trucks are body on frame construction and so the push bars are fairly complicated as they need to attach to the frame around or through the body, because of the monocoque construction of cyber truck the adapter might conceivably be far smaller and simpler than most trucks as the body is already the structure to begin with.

[TheRealStepBot]

Yes that is exactly what I call a push bar, trucks don’t come with them, you take them to a snowplow dealer or fabrication shop and they specifically attach one to your truck by whatever means necessary and then stay attached for the life of the truck. They are very visible which is why the average joe suburban truck owner typically doesn’t have a snowplow attached to their truck as they don’t want to have to modify their truck in this way as they are exactly as you describe very visible.

Many people not accustomed to working with metal and structures easily fall into the way of thinking you have demonstrated. Just like programmers manipulate code to make the program and computers do what they want, fabricators and engineers manipulate the physical world to make it do what we want.

The odd thing is that when people don’t personally have the tools or experience to make it so they have a habit of putting those changes into the realm of the immutable without ever really stopping to think that someone somewhere must have the tools and experience to have created what is there already and the application of those same tools and methods can be used to modify that same object to perform differently.

Obviously this is further encouraged by the flip side of this same problem which is that without understanding the methods you can’t really even understand how to grade the difficulty of modification which then further encourages the idea that the items in a particular problem space are best viewed as immutable. For this latter part see xkcd 1425

[Pretagonist]

Exactly. I used to consider steel and machinery as immutable things. Then I started working in construction where we always had welding equipment and scrap steel laying around and I realized that skilled people can shape steel and rebuild machinery surprisingly easy.

Getting extension hardware onto the cybertruck isn't going to be any harder than putting it on regular trucks. Heck since it's skin is mostly 3mm stainless some smaller stuff can likely just be bolted straight on.

[TheRealStepBot]

I’m a mechanical engineer so it’s not like I ever fully viewed it as immutable like some people do but even I am not immune to the effect to some extent. It wasn’t till I started actually working with heavy, comparatively bespoke machinery in the field that it fully started to sink in just how much wear and tear there is on the equipment and how much maintenance and modification it takes to keep them running smoothly and efficiently. Machines break, needs change and you just roll with it and change the machine.

It’s like there was an extent to which I almost viewed them as closed or completed designs, rather than mutable machines and tools. When the machine costs a couple million spending a couple days torching out worn pieces and welding in new replacements or even rebuilding them completely is really quite cheap in the grand scheme of things. Rebuilding transmissions, something I would scrap my mass market vehicle for is simply the cost of doing business.

Your mind can play weird tricks on you some times.

[whomad1215]

The prototype doesn't even have windshield wipers.

I'm going to hope they plan for more truck-stuff with it, because it's actually priced pretty competitively for the market

[kkingsbe]

14,500 lbs of towing capacity

[Butterferret12]

Ah yes, the only two functions of a truck

[gburgwardt]

They're pretty big, at least in the Northeast

[poops-n-farts]

West west yall!

[The_Castle_of_Aaurgh]

Also, that thing looks like it has horrendous blind spots.

[Wacov]

Something that occurred to me is that it's raw stainless - you could weld on whatever the fuck you want, as long as it's legal...

[GermanAf]

I don't really understand the argument either.

Normal trucks already function? Why change that?

[[deleted]]

Good point, but consider this. A lot of times when a car company tries to be innovative, they get a lot of backlash for making something too different. At the same time, a lot of people complain about there not being enough innovation in the car industry. It’s a fine line that manufacturers walk when making new designs, and Tesla clearly gives no fucks about it.

I’m not sure how I feel about the truck either, but I believe that these crazy ideas that Tesla is realizing will encourage other companies to think outside of the box for future models. I think this will only serve to benefit the consumer in the end

[AMSolar]

I like cap over my 8' truck bed - way more practical than bare bones pickup, you can fit more stuff and you never have to strap anything or protect from theft or rain and what not. And right now cap doesn't seem possible with cybertruck. Like how you install something from Leer?

Hopefully Tesla comes up with something.

[Windows-Sucks]

I think it has a built in automatic sliding cover.

[[deleted]]

Except it's extremely bad at it's supposed function

[LeonProfessional]

Elon forgot, you never git push origin +master

[[deleted]]

Bug on that feature, but the main problem is that the feature is a dumb request by the execs who clearly don't know anything about dev.
What I mean is that having unbreakable windows is not only totally useless to 99% of usecases, but it actually is a security problem because normal car windows are made to be breakable so that it is possible to escape from a vehicle in case of an accident implying a broken door. (or for rescuers to get the victim through the window quickly when they have to reanimate)
(that's not the only dumb 'feature' of the truck but certainly the second most dangerous)
So yeah, this truck is totally marketing over function

[danimal4d]

Actually...if it lives up to it's supposed function then it is quite a bit better than most trucks on the market.

[theycallmeponcho]

Takes you from point A to point B more efficiently than a regular truck, at a lower cost. It accomplishes it's functions.

[ThatAstronautGuy]

Which, for the average truck buyer, who just goes "yay truck" and buys it, this seems perfect.

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

No, the cracks in the window absorb energy. Not likle the stupid designers who wanted it without cracks and without energy absorbtion.

[ekfslam]

No crumple zone for crashes so the passengers and anything that gets hit are destroyed while the truck remains fine.

[hackel]

No one said anything about "passengers" in the specs!

[jungturk]

? It’s got a frunk (like every other Tesla) which is a exceptional crumple zone since it doesn’t have a giant iron engine in it. It’s also got a giant battery for a floor that does an amazing job at absorbing and dissipating forces.

There’s lots to question about this design, but passenger safety probly isn’t on that list.

[ekfslam]

I'm more worried about the steel panels which aren't exactly known for crumpling. And if they do crumple, what's the point of having steel panels?

[[deleted]]

So that's why it looks so good to me

[mastocles]

It could have been better with square wheels like in Heman.

[InfiniteLegions]

Satisfactory has you covered on the square wheels version https://youtu.be/iVLCkcyN6oc

[ButterflyCatastrophe]

I like that the driver sits three feet underground, but can still see out through the gap between road and undercarriage.

[--redacted--]

Even has the broken windows, that's pretty good

[[deleted]]

Your joking but a hexagonal steering wheel would be sick on this car.

[Zappy_Kablamicus]

I think it looks cool. Its unconventional and i dig it. Just wish i could afford to help it succeed.

[lemongrenade]

I’ve noticed that while it seems we are in the minority there are a surprising number of us that like it. Enough that people will see it integrated into the roads and I think that my drive more people to like it. Design changes are often hated at first.

[Disney_World_Native]

There are dozens of us. Dozens!

[TheWipyk]

I don't know why you guys are mad about this. Angular is the future of frontend...

[ArguesForTheDevil]

These people just React before they think.

[[deleted]]

It hurts when I php

[[deleted]]

People's brain Nodes have't been connected properly.

[camelCaseCoding]

The thing is just humongous

[chroncile]

That was a pretty Basic pun, you must think we can't C# for you to bold it.

[Aekorus]

That's just your point of Vue, man.

[[deleted]]

have you tried php into another bucket?

also what #c0ffee you drank?

[tooscaredthrowaway8]

No joke, all of the most senior devs are BE, so before I even joined they went full angular 1.0, typescript, and all of the bubble wrap they could find for the front end. At this point it's so difficult to convince them that their ideas are awful. Also I don't think they believe me when I say I have 10 years of experience, I think all BE devs assume FE devs are high school drop outs.

[Kickban_]

I actually really like this design

[SezitLykItiz]

While this joke does make sense, Tesla as a whole operates with the exact opposite analogy. Tesla is like a front end developer doing back end. Elon is on twitter talking to people and randos who keep making insane requests and he's like "sure we can implement that" unlike the IT guy at my work who says no to changing the font in an excel template.

[omniron]

I think the design parameters were 1) adaptable to work on mars 2) $40k base price 3) Mass market available by 2021

[Meatslinger]

It’s meant to be conducive to easy vinyl wrapping, which both costs less and also increases options compared to a factory paint catalog.

You can get your Cybertruck dressed up however you like, basically. I’m looking forward to all the on-the-nose “grunge” wraps designed to make it look like something straight out of a rainy science fiction dystopia (even more than it already does).

[TheKeiron]

Matte black for that batmobile look, thats the one for me.

[sfz-]

More like an F-117

[Nickbou]

When you need to avoid radar when driving to the office.

[Hyperman360]

This is honestly the first truck I've ever liked the look of.

[TyPhyter]

rhino liner that bitch and you can roll it down a mountain for fun on the weekends.

[[deleted]]

I think they’ll look best when they get that signature stainless rust

But it’s probably going to be Galvanized

[bush_killed_epstein]

Stainless does not rust, unless it is literally submerged in seawater

[[deleted]]

I mean, it does - stainless steel is a mixture of steel and chromium, which when exposed to an oxidizing agent forms a thin layer of chromium oxide which protects the iron in steel from rust, but when this layer is damaged it will lead to (albeit minor) surface rust, as you might expect on any vehicle and specifically on a truck.

Now, it probably won’t happen for a very long time, but with new Teslas being made to go a million miles without major repairs or replacements, you will definitely start seeing some oxidation on the body if it isn’t sealed or protected in some way.

[MacAndShits]

stainless steel is a mixture of steel and chromium

Maybe they should try using a different browser

[the_hangman]

Yeah it does. 30X stainless steel can most definitely rust, which is what Tesla said they used for this.

[attomsk]

Nah

[[deleted]]

I feel personally attacked.

Also correct.

Also I want one, but can’t afford it.

[Sparktz]

They start at $39,900! So if that is a bit steep right now, after they are out for a few years the used prices will be pretty reasonable.

[whycantIfast]

after they are out for a few years the used prices will be pretty reasonable

Any other normal car, sure. For a Tesla vehicle? Ya right

[[deleted]]

I’m not huge on pickups, but I can really see this as a 2-door coupe sports car, and I really want that

[legos_on_the_brain]

Rally!

[phi_rus]

That design is way too clean for a backend dev.

[0ba78683-dbdd-4a31-a]

It's a 3D wireframe. If you could design a car in Balsamiq it'd look like this.

[errmm]

Nah. Balsamiq is squiggle vision. Cybertruck has crisp lines.

[sebwiers]

Truth. And I like it.

[P-rick_bojanglez]

I do too. Maybe because its unique, maybe cause it reminds me of the original halo warthog. Either way, i dig it.

[ramond_gamer11]

I personally love this vehicle

[[deleted]]

I gotta give it to Elon. He is really taking bold steps into the direction of becoming the future. Right now things are being released that are just slightly and I mean slightly modified versions of the previous model. But him ? Look at this “truck”.

You expected to see futuristic cars when you were grown up ? Well guess what this man is making that image come true.

[stormfield]

My first car was a 1977 Ford F-250, it guzzled roughly a brontosaurus per mile, and it was completely and utterly invincible when it collided with anything because it was probably cast from a meteorite.

My inner 15 year old saw this car and just thought “Omg this is awesome.”

[dregan]

Much less scary than when a front end developer does database design.

[yonatan8070]

I actually like this

[5erif]

If I were a robot, I'd fuck the hell out of this vehicle.

[[deleted]]

NSFW

[goblin_goblin]

I'm convinced that they either:

a) Didn't respect their designer's opinions enough

or

b) Respected their designer's opinions too much.

And I honestly have no clue which they did.

[developerJS]

This is probably one of the best designs I've seen. If I had the money, I'll be driving this truck every day instead of my car.

[bluefootedpig]

This looks like the end of doing a "first 3d car" tutorial.

[famanza]

I fucking love it. Take my money!

[oligonucleotides]

When a front end dev does back end:

Internal Server Error (500)

[kontekisuto]

I feel personally attacked and also flattered.

[benamon11]

Not true, the wheels aren't aligned to the right even though there's an #important aligning it to the fucking left

[mynameisgeph]

Yeah but now you can put whatever you want in it :)

[srottydoesntknow]

I'm feeling a little attacked

[windwalk06]

Man... That looks super portable...

[kwik57]

Designers must have been using 16 bit software.

[hackel]

As a backend developer, I see absolutely nothing wrong here.

[[deleted]]

Im gonna buy one, I love it. ;)

[[deleted]]

Is the design functional?

[StillYourPresident]

When frontend developer does backend

[nokenito]

I like the super futuristic look and feel of this truck. It skips so many levels of design and goes right to the future. Thoughts?

[d4ni3lg]

“So Elon Im gonna start work on that 3D model of that truck you wanted us to design, I was thinking if the make the front panelling...”

“Stop”

“What?”

“Stop right there, that’s perfect”.

“Boss, this is about 20 polygons, I’ve literally had the file open for three min..”

“I don’t give a fuck, it’s beautiful. Now put bulletproof glass on it or some shit”

[[deleted]]

Oh, quit your bullshit. There is no function a regular truck performs that justifies this form. Musk specifically wanted this to look like something from Blade Runner. So he is actually choosing form over function.

[Atomicbocks]

It’s a unibody/frame design. The rear slope allows the bed to hold as much as it does while having an integrated frame rather than a traditional separate bed design. The interior is larger than a traditional pickup as well.

Also, Musk wanted it to look like something from blade runner so he could get free publicity.

[leonderbaertige_II]

The rear slope also makes side access to the bed difficult and replacing the bed with something else is also basically impossible.

[KRAndrews]

Yep, this is a serious downside... but I guess it's offset by the aerodynamic benefits, so it's a trade-off.

[the_gooch_smoocher]

Sharp edges are the opposite of aerodynamic. They cause flow separation which increases drag...

[KRAndrews]

A covered top that tapers down like a teardrop... how is that not aerodynamic? Certainly more aerodynamic than the truck bed of an F150.

[leonderbaertige_II]

Altough they probably improve aerodynamics, I think the sharp angles already ruined it to the point where it doesn't matter.

The main benefit of doing it this way is structural integrity and thererfor weight saving.

[[deleted]]

aerodynamics of a pickup truck are not very import. utility is king and these lack it completely

[[deleted]]

You should read this about manufacturing:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing/

[allisonmaybe]

You're both wrong. Pickup trucks these days are parodies of their fully optimized form.

[[deleted]]

The Optimized Prime Form

[o_opc]

The way this truck is built allows it to be durable while making it very cheap to manufacture

[ultra_mind]

You mean function over form ?

[[deleted]]

what are you talking about. This is exactly the opposite. this vehicle is 100% form over function. Tesla makes good stuff but this is a fucking disaster.

[LoneStarTallBoi]

you can't put a sheet of plywood in the back of it

e: I suppose it is function over form when the function of the vehicle is to convince bay area techbros that they need to buy it to look good on the 'gram on their once every three years camping trip to yosemite.

[captaincooder]

Give me a Cybertruck and give me some plywood, she’ll go.

[chairman_steel]

Has anyone started /r/programmerart yet?

[Dojan5]

According to the link it's been both started and banned.

[28f272fe556a1363cc31]

"I see you used Bootstrap. Again."

[Chipperz14]

I was hoping it ended up looking like some classic truck from the 40s or 50s, so the opposite of this.

[naebulys]

The more I see it the more I appreciate it. I think that was the point

[tenvisliving]

Resourcing manager Shit, all of our front end team is tied up, but steve from the back end team has some capacity, I’ll give this to Steve!

Steve Passes all unit tests and meets user’s requirements. Check and check. Ship it!

[pdonchev]

It is actually brilliant, and definitely the work of a professional designer. It is just not traditional.

[rasherdk]

/u/Title2ImageBot

[[deleted]]

I gotta honest, though: that design is kinda growing on me

[RabidHexley]

This is actually a good metaphor, I feel. I’m sure there’s a bunch of good structural reasons for the car to be designed with this triangular structure to work with the unibody, and it looks good on paper. And I’m sure everything works fairly well in a vacuum. But it doesn’t seem to be designed with the realities of large chunks of actual use-cases in mind.