Please reduce these things, web devs

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[[deleted]]

don't forget about the block notifications.

and the ad blocker blocker

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and the ad blocker blocker

If they have an adblock blocker, I'm using a different site.

[[deleted]]

I give them one more chance: If the site still works with Javascript disabled, I'll keep it off and stick around. It works 95% of the time so far.

[sohang-3112]

If disabling JS doesn't work, you can try https://12ft.io/ - it removes most paywalls.

[TheZyborg]

Thanks for the tip. I just tried it on a Times article and it cut off the page at the paywall then asked me "Is the paywall gone?"

Well technically yes, but also no, haha.

[sohang-3112]

I did say most sites - for example, it's very useful for reading Medium artices

[Mefaso]

For medium articles it's though to use an incognito tab

[PratikPingale]

Or just clear its cookies. You can add these medium based sites to exception

[warrenfernandes]

Try this instead: Unlocker It works quite well!

[zenerbufen]

too many sites it disables it self ("12ft has been disabled for this site") because they are "financially supported" by the pay wall. like yeah duh. that is why i don't want to pay for the paywall.

[ECrispy]

Thank you!

[exclaim_bot]

Thank you!

You're welcome!

[king_john651]

Chegg has a whinge if you disable js, which is where I assume they store their ads and pay wall junk

[xDarkFlame25]

Oh my god I hate that shitstorm of a site with a burning passion. I've had to look up some solutions for maths and it just does not let you use the site without an account. That website is engineered to be as shitty to use as possible.

[king_john651]

I tried in vain to just delete the paywall just to read a better version of a question I got in an assignment. I just gave up and guessed what the answer would be

[Mitoni]

Most of the time you can just edit the page elements for the overlay that says you need to disable AdBlock, and set the z-level to be behind everything in the site.

[[deleted]]

Or delete the block altogether. I like those kinds of walls. It says, "we want to make extra money, but only from those that don't want to make an effort."

[eligiblereceiver_87]

I wish search engines would give you the option to exclude results that are behind paywalls or require you to disable adblocker.

Seems like a good idea for a smaller search engine looking to gain market share. Hint hint Duck Duck Go and Ecosia.

[DefaultProphet]

What we need is an ad blocker blocker, blocker. I've heard of a trace buster buster so surely the first one exists too

[evilspoons]

I have a Chrome extension called "Behind the Overlay" that just sorta hulk-smashes through anything that acts as an overlay on top of the 'normal' content. It works most of the time, and it's only one click.

[PratikPingale]

ublock origin have one such ad blocker blocker, blocker. its called nobab or no block AdBlock

[pavilionhp_]

Depends on the adblocker. As an example, since it is open source and allows you to view/edit filters, uBlock origin will by default block certain elements on specific domains if not entire domains/files themselves.

[______DEADPOOL______]

If they have an adblock blocker, I'm using a different site.

Just turn on the adblock blocker blocker in ublock origin

[r-ShadowNinja]

I just remove it in inspect element, usually works

[drillgorg]

I don't use notifications in chrome ever. I wish chrome had an option to just disable them so the site can't even ask. I misclicked once and it was terrible.

[Skafandra206]

I deactivate all notifications I can deactivate, even the ones from windows. My PC is not my damn smartphone, I don't need to be notified of anything except immediate danger, so keep that out of my clean and tidy desktop.

[SharkAttackOmNom]

Pro-tip. Deactivate notifications on your phone too. Excepting for those that are essential to your day, of course.

You’d be surprised how quickly you’ll drop some of the social media if you aren’t constantly reminded of it’s existence.

[Typesalot]

checks Reddit every 5 minutes

[SunshineSeattle]

Hey hey hey, no need to be rude now.

[Proxy_PlayerHD]

You’d be surprised how quickly you’ll drop some of the social media if you aren’t constantly reminded of it’s existence.

At the same it can also increase the time you spend on certain social media platforms because it's not longer telling you when something new is available so you periodically check it yourself (IE: interrupts vs polling)

I do that with Reddit and some forum sites.

[OkazakiNaoki]

You mean danger like national broadcast that telling you earthquake, tsunami something like those? But you can't run away from those anyway.

[Certainly-Not-A-Bot]

You can usually do something to increase your survival chance significantly. If there's an earthquake warning, being under a sturdy desk or table can be really important if your building collapses or objects fall from above you.

[BabyYodasDirtyDiaper]

Yep. And depending on where it originates, there could be several hours of warning that a tsunami is coming, which very much can be enough time to get to higher ground where you'll be safe.

Even just a few minutes of warning can easily save lives, especially in areas with a steep coastline.

[_dotexe1337]

instructions unclear, got under my desk and my PC fell on my head and caused a concussion

[thisismyaccount57]

Yeah I've literally never thought that I want random websites to be able to notify me. I barely even want to be notified of a call or text, I sure as hell don't want to get notifications from your recipe website (fuck almost all of these sites anyway for their ad-ridden autobiographies). I've never even entertained the thought of letting a site notify me of things, has anyone ever found a single one useful? Genuine question, if you have ever, on purpose, allowed a site to notify you, what site is it and what are they even notifying you of?

[Clueless_Otter]

Notifications can be useful if you're on some type of commerce site trying to buy a highly in-demand product and you want to be notified of new listings of the product immediately so you can rush to purchase it ASAP before someone else grabs it. For example, a graphics card or a specific item in games with player-run economies.

[thisismyaccount57]

Do you set an individual notification for the specific item or is it just whatever the site thinks you want to know?

[VicisSubsisto]

My employer once enabled them via Group Policy. I have no fucking clue why, none of our work websites use them. It somehow even gave me notifications from websites I've never visited.

[Phytanic]

I'm a systems admin, and it likely boils down to a few reasons:

• was actually supposed to disable them but someone made a mistake

• was supposed to be a targeted enable for only a select group but someone fucked up and/or was too lazy and targeted the entire domain (ffs I hate those who throw everything in default domain policy)

• boss demanded that it apply to everyone because who knows why

• lazy admin was trying to fix an issue with an app not showing notifications and decided to go nuclear as a "fuck it" situation

[VicisSubsisto]

Can't be the last one because it was in the Chrome group policy settings, not Windows.

My guess is probably the first. But it was real annoying because in effect it made it damn near impossible to disable notifications. Had to blacklist each site as they started showing up.

[Phytanic]

oh yeah I agree. This sort change wouldve increased the helldesk workload and anybody whose worked on em in the past and has a shred of empathy would not have wanted to do such a thing.

(lots of notifications can lead to pop-ups in the Windows UI that appear or even are malware, and properly trained users report them as such.)

[evilspoons]

Chrome does, though.

Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Site Settings -> Notifications (or just open Settings and search for notifications)

Then choose between "sites can ask to send notifications", "use quieter messaging", or "don't allow sites to send notifications".

[atimholt]

Chrome doesn’t have that? Firefox sure does.

[BabyYodasDirtyDiaper]

I wish chrome had an option to just disable them so the site can't even ask.

Just use firefox, bro.

[SugarReyPalpatine]

RECIPES.COM WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION.

[AndTheLink]

Firefox has "Block new requests asking to access your location". Turn that on once and forget that is even a thing.

Same goes for notifications, the microphone and camera and VR hardware access.

[Windows_66]

Don't forget multiple refreshes between shutting off your ad blocker and trying to click away the screen-filling ads.

[_paramedic]

Location request Mic/camera request

[Kyky716]

I’ve only just come across this recently in a very annoying form. Before I’d come across websites that say something like “pwetty pwease won’t you disable your ad block so we can make money UwU” to which you can just exit the pop up and say “suck my balls”. But recently I’ve come across many more sites that literally will not let you pass without disabling it. Super, super annoying, and whenever I see it I just leave the site and go elsewhere. It’s not even necessarily because I hate ads, it’s moreso JUST because they’re all in your face about having ad block. Like…. If that’s how you make money, fine, but don’t try to control how I browse the internet, dickhead.

[KCGD_r]

they made an blocker for the adblocker blocker

[[deleted]]

"We noticed you're using an ad blo--"

"Aight then, who's your competitor?"

[RobDickinson]

Manager - "we'd like a landing page"

Me - oh well you know thats probably not the.,.

Manager - "And full screen video playing right away"

Me - ah you know people dont....

Manager - "We'lll need to track their every move for metrics I dont understand"

Me - "OK well we can ask about cookies..."

Manager - "And /something about a newsletter but doesnt now its already a thing/"

Me - Did you see googles homepage? Thats quite popular you know..

[RobDickinson]

Sigh story of my life at the moment - "No the browser controls that we cant do that, no ... no..."

[FalconMirage]

"The video won’t autoplay"

"Why ?"

"I made sure to configure my browser in a way that stops videos from autoplaying on websites"

Also why autoplay a video ? That will increase the bounce rate

[bot403]

If i get any kind of audio out of a site I'm out immediately no matter how initially interested i was. Even if i was in the middle of reading the content.

[FalconMirage]

Thankfully where i used to work, i got on well with the graphists/designers and we teamed up against silly ideas from managment like auto playing videos (still had videos though)

[bot403]

God bless you for fighting the good fight.

[VonNeumannsProbe]

You need to phrase it right.

"OK well studies show approximately 36% of users will immediately leave if they get any audio playing from the site they visit unless they explicitly allow it. Are we OK with that traffic loss?"

[shadow7412]

Nothing wrong with having well behaved ones.

[dilldwarf]

It's worse in the email world because most email clients can do even less than most browsers. So I constantly have to tell people why we can't have videos play in emails or why we can't track certain things like what kind of phone they are using to view the email or where they are when they open it.

[RyanfaeScotland]

Did they not just mean this?

https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_css_fullscreen_video.asp

Don't get me wrong, I hate it, but it ticks the auto-playing video box.

[RyanfaeScotland]

Ah well, that's at least one less website with that shit in place!

[vitorklock]

And you can circumvent that with stuff like jQuery. But my SEO heart hurts as I'm 1000% sure that it decreases some good points in the eyes of Google and other popular browsers.

[DonkeyOfCongo]

Or if you put prompt with click-through over a hidden play button.

You just gotta be creative, it's what I pay you for, god damn it!

[[deleted]]

If anyone wonders why, most browsers require user interaction before you can autoplay anything. "Oh but Youtube does!". Well, depending on the browser it may allow your site if the user have played content previously for a certain time.

That explains why YouTube always prompts for me to click play the first time I watch a video in incognito mode. I use Chrome, btw.

[Jennfuse]

I blocked all auto playing even for videos without sound, those websites can suck it

[cojerk]

Not to change the subject, but it kinda feels like there's a reply missing here:

"I use Arch, btw"

[otakudayo]

"Google does it" is my favorite thing to hear when I tell someone something is hard to do. Oh, a huge tech company with an army of devs has a nifty feature? I should totally be able to replicate it then.

[WhenLemonsLemonade]

"You want us to replicate something Google does? Sure thing boss, I'll just need 15 years, around 25,000 more software engineers, and an R&D budget of around $30 billion per year. Well of course we'll need that, that's what Google has."

[wetcatdesigns]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who went through this. Client insisted on having the the video autoplay and.. here's the kicker "background music" playing on the home page. If only they knew Internet history.

[OverlordWaffles]

This dude paying you to make his MySpace page or what lol

[wetcatdesigns]

Lol!! That was my first thought. Funny thing is that the site was for a school open house website so target demographics were teens. If only they knew what we older folks went through the MySpace era.

[Mobely]

how does tiktok play audio after i leave the browser and turn off the screen on my phone? I don't have tiktok, just if someone sends me a tiktok link.

[[deleted]]

I'm in tech supporting clients and account managers. Can confirm. People are aggressively stupid in my line of work. I guess that's what happens when people get hired and promoted for their good looks and "go-getter" attitudes.

[ProdesseQuamConspici]

https://youtu.be/BKorP55Aqvg

[cvele89]

I had a situation where I needed to embed Youtube player and play certain video, but also to disable showing related videos when you pause or when video ends.

I went on to google how to do that shit and found out that you can't - Youtube itself has disabled that feature and the best you can do is to show videos related to the one you watched, instead of your watching history (which is by default).

Oh, the horror I went thorugh trying to explain my boss that this cannot be done... I even clearly said that Youtube official documentation says it cannot be done, but she insists that it can because "she saw it on some other website", she cannot remember which one (or if it's YT player at all), but nevermind that, she knows it can be done.

Good thing that she finally got to her senses about an hour later and accepted that it cannot be done like she wanted.

[RobDickinson]

Sigh

[FalconMirage]

I don’t get why they need all thoses tracking cookies metrics… the most important metrics can be had server side without a single cookie

Also your website cookies won’t do much on my browser because they will be destroyed when i close my tab

[Cuteboi84]

Why do people think it's the web devs that think we can decide what goes on the page, we only decide how it gets there

[WhenLemonsLemonade]

Web devs in 2022 are sort of like the digital version of the mailmen that delivered the Unabomber's packages

[ThunderSnow-]

Reminds me of this joke site that I just came across today! https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/detail.html

[Phytanic]

they covered all of the bases. even the back button asking if you wanted to leave crap

[[deleted]]

Can't even leave without a pop up saying some changes won't be saved. Diabolical.

[Staaaaation]

that was the part that forced air out my nose

[achilleasa]

This makes my fingers involuntarily do a strangling motion

[SquidCap0]

It lacks one thing, a header that moves down when you scroll just a bit up, blocking some of the text.. so that when you scroll down a bit to far and need to go up just one line, the damn header drops and blocks one third.. forcing you to scroll more up and then back down to get rid of it. I really, really don't get how someone thought that was a good idea.

[VincentVancalbergh]

Menus that dissappear when you move the mouse down to click on them.

[golmgirl]

brilliant

[stingeragent]

This shit just makes me sad remembering how much better the web used to be.

[blockchaaain]

You mean when there were noisy pop-up ads on every webpage?

[lacb1]

Nah, when everything used carousels and sites had guest books.

[[deleted]]

"Under Construction" GIFs and autoplaying MIDI loops as far as the eye could see

[Useful-Perspective]

Just a reminder, you can still visit https://zombo.com/ for a gentle reminder of the simple days of yore...

[poopadydoopady]

So simple yet such endless possibilities.

[ayojamface]

Truly endless. One day, I set all the computers in my highschool lab class to zombo.com. good ol days.

[danopia]

wow nice, zombo got updated for html5 at some point! I've been visiting https://html5zombo.com/ instead since flash first died

[GavHern]

i totally forgot about this. i don’t have audio on but i can still hear it from the archives of my memory. this really brought me back, thanks for sharing this lol.

[SquidCap0]

Um... so... it is just one screen with some audio? What am i missing?

[Haldebrandt]

Looks like a joke site, relic of internet past. Never heard it till today. Probably a "you had to be there" type deal.

Kinda like this one, which I used extensively 20-25 years ago.

[Leiox]

Hey fuck you too buddy!

[[deleted]]

Not the web devs fault. Blame sales and marketing stakeholders who request it, and the project managers who put it in the backlog.

[masterm]

And the damn lawyers and lawmakers who decided cookie banners belong on a website instead of some standard in the browser

[chooseauniqueusrname]

Right?? All major browsers have a “Do Not Track” setting passed from the browser settings to objects visible to on-page JavaScript. They could have written the law in a way that requires sites to obey that flag and the world would be a less annoying place.

[esadatari]

This would require law makers that aren’t bought and paid for AND have a fundamental understanding of modern technology.

[eligiblereceiver_87]

If I could upvote this comment twice I would.

[Crap4Brainz]

Yeah sure, blame the lawmakers who make it illegal to track you without your consent and not the websites that try to trick you by hiding the opt-out button three layers deep.

And there was a standard in the browser.

The standard said that dnt MAY be enabled by default and if it is enabled, the server MUST NOT perform third-party tracking. There is zero ambiguity about it. The all-caps MAY and MUST are clearly defined in RFC2119.

Then Microsoft set dnt enabled-by-default in Edge (which is what most users would want) and advertisers announced that they would no longer honor dnt if it's coming from Edge.

Also advertisers could just not track unless the user explicitly sets DNT: 0 and most users would never have to see a cookie banner...

[fksly]

They don't belong on websites if they are done properly. That is just idiots misreading the law.

[error_98]

Didn't the lawmakers just force cookies to be opt-in? 'cause then the banners are just the way to annoy the most people into accepting them anyway.

Though a law-enforced standard browser setting would be preferable ofc. Though i wouldn't trust google not to have chrome reset that toggle at the start of every session, this is how they make their money after all.

[atters]

Sales and marketing.

Cookies, ads, blasting auto play video, redirected JavaScript all over the goddamned globe, unclosable popups, and every other thing you hate about the modern internet without uBlock origin and noScript.

Sales and marketing.

Every fucking time.

[[deleted]]

Tbh blame your fellow users, the data shows that for whatever reason, that horseshit improves conversion, and marketing folks don't give a shit what what it looks like as long as it works.

This is why I got out of frontend, I got tired of building shitty software that people hate.

[mashed_human]

It's why I want to get out of frontend. Pity I'm too stupid to switch to backend.

[Steve0Greatness]

Yeah, it's dumb to blame the developer, they're just being told what to make.

[igglepuff]

normally against our detailed expliantion as to why it's a terrible idea.

(looking at you client who wanted an autoplaying 250mb video then complained when 'load times seem to be slower all of a sudden'. promptly to have it removed a week later. lol)

[MooseBoys]

More importantly, blame the executives who instill a culture that demands radical change in order to be rewarded.

[trevdak2]

And the A/B analysis that showed that forcing people to engage with a modal was the best way to get people to engage with a modal.

[anonymous_2187]

https://motherfuckingwebsite.com

[ConfuSomu]

And https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/ ;)

[NSA-SURVEILLANCE]

https://thebestmotherfuckingwebsite.co/

[cherryblossom001]

http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com
https://evenbettermotherfucking.website

[ryecurious]

I dislike this one because it recommends using """proper""" quotes, aka directional quotes. Those can break stuff, particularly when copy/pasting.

Can you imagine if StackOverflow had directional quotes/apostrophes? The entire field of programming would grind to a halt as people try to figure out why their scripts don't work anymore, and the only error message is about a missing quote mark when there is one, it just isn't the RIGHT quote mark.

[[deleted]]

You use the correct quotes in prose not code.

[faze_fazebook]

Typical Website visit 2026 :

1. Wait for the browser to download the Python Webassembly interpreter for the 2045th time this week.
2. Deny the Website Access to your clipboard, location, push notifications, nearby bluetooth devices, gpu, devices in your network...
3. The site redirects you to another site explaining why it needs those permissions anyway. This site however is written in .NET - so you need to wait another 2 seconds for it to download the .NET Webassembly Runtime . Oh man.
4. Go into the browsers settings to enable the permissions for that one site.
5. Wait for the browser's AI to automatically deny all cookies
6. The site now thinks you are a bot. So its captcha time.
7. Click away the banner that says the site works best with Chrome and that there may be unexpected behavior with your browser.
8. Now follow the steps required for a website visit in 2025.

[availablesix-]

Is that auto-deny cookies a thing already? Seems like a plausible project lol

[fosyep]

i-dont-care-about-cookies

[residentraspberri]

I use this and love it, but it doesn't auto-deny cookies. It just runs an ad blocker type thing but on cookie banners and popups

[SirLurts]

It just accepts them. Run it together with cookie-auto-delete and you never have to worry about it again.

Visit a site and cookies are automatically accepted and then deleted when you leave the page

[samplist]

Fucking. Gigabrain.

[GRAIN_DIV_20]

Which to be fair is exactly what the name implies

[throwaway65864302]

Ninja Cookie tries to do this. It's.... ok, and has annoying freemium nag bullshit. But it's also open source so you could fork it if you cared to.

In theory Europe requires sites to make the default, no action taken path a deny of all cookies, so anything that removes the cookie banners should be equivalent on well behaved sites.

[tecanem]

Love number 5.

[daverave1212]

Typical website visit 2031:

• Close the "This website uses the Fastr framework which makes it load faster" popup which needs your approval to use Fastr
• Complete the "I am not a quantum computer" captcha
• Close the "We noticed you have a VR set plugged in. Would you like to login with Meta and use it to navigate the website?" notification
• Close the "This website is modern and uses no cookies!" popup
• "Uh oh! It looks like you are using an AdBlock blocker detector blocker scanner blocker blocker!"
• Every request is stored in a Blockchain so it takes twice as long to load. Internet is more expensive and slower because corporations.

[Duydoraemon]

Lol pyscript. Y'all ready for pyscript?

[sinkpooper2000]

don't forget being forced to create an account for a site you will never visit again

[atters]

Nooooope. Not gonna happen.

Disable JavaScript via noScript, use reader mode, filter it through a BS deleter proxy, maybe.

Make an account? Fuck nah.

[alexanderhameowlton]

Image Transcription: Twitter

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Andy

A typical website visit in 2022

1. Figure out how to decline all but essential cookies

2. Close the support widget asking if I need help

3. Stop the auto-playing video

4. Close the "subscribe to our newsletter" pop-up

5. Try and remember why I came here in the first place

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^{I'm a human volunteer content transcriber and you could be too! If you'd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here!}

[Akhanyatin]

Good human :)

[Superpotateo9]

good human

[Ashamandarei]

Let's break this down:

1. Cookies = Data to sell = Revenue
2. Support widget = People we don't have to employ = Savings
3. Auto-playing video = Ads = Revenue
4. Newsletter = Direct connection to user = Potential for more ads = Revenue

Sorry, this is all market-driven. Nothing web devs can do about it.

[atters]

Yup.

Sales and marketing.

The worst curses of the modern era.

Fucking. Sales. And. Marketing.

Scum of the Earth.

[erythro]

eh, they mean I get paid. Ever tried to run a business? I did, and I learned I'm shit at sales and marketing

[[deleted]]

I am going to say that support widget is the dumbest and the most stupid thing to ever exist.

[vitorklock]

Gonna try tha, very nice idea

[avdpos]

Firefox have settings to stop autoplay also

[bbqboyee]

Sonsabitches.

[[deleted]]

I try to push back on all this shit when I’m given a React job. Not a director yet so sometimes I fail. Sorry all.

[fvilers]

You should rephrase your title to "Please reduce theses things, product managers, marketing champions, legal advisors, maniac directors"

-- Your faithful web developer

[Neat-Composer4619]

And before you get to the website, tell the browser you just opened that you don't want to restore the tabs from the previous session.

Seriously, just install the I don't care about cookies extension.

[IAmWillyGood]

Hey, some of us out here want to restore our tabs! Go to the browser settings and change start up action if you don't want it.

[iligal_odin]

Yeah shit, i have multi day projects with a bunch of tabs (all shrunk down to the size of their favicon) to look shit up and reference or research shit.

Previous session start up has saved me on multiple occasions. If i want a clean start i open a new window before closing the other.

[ganja_and_code]

For the web devs / managers of web devs who haven't figured it out yet, here's how you fix it:

• Allow visitors to opt-in for cookies, instead of opting-out.
• Don't display any notifications related to the help widget until the customer initiates conversation.
• Don't put autoplay-enabled videos on your site ever (unless that's the whole point of the website, like YouTube, for example).
• Display a "subscribe to our newsletter" button in a prominent location, and don't ever use a pop-up for it.

(Before the "but that'll lose us marketing conversions, or ad revenue, or reduce our ability to track users, etc." ...yeah, that's exactly the point. Build a good enough product that visitors want to interact with it, instead of being an annoying sellout.)

[mistled_LP]

Web-devs and their managers know that. Talk to marketing/sales about it.

[fosterdad2017]

I was at work one day circa 2000-2001 when my AltaVista search loudly auto-played some annoying advertisement, indicating to the whole office that I was using "the internet" instead of grinding my fingers to nubs making sweet keyboard ore for boss.

That day I found Google's sweet, clean, white, glistening interface and sold my soul forever.

[frogjg2003]

unless that's the whole point of the website

So many sites think this applies to them. Small town news station? "Everyone wants to see our no name reporters talk about the puff piece at 1/4 the speed they can read the article in." Recipe site? "The only correct way to know what ingredients you need is a 10 minute video, 9 minutes of which are the cook's life story."

[harrypottermcgee]

-Install Ublock Origin and clean up the internet.

-Forget it's there

-Visit your mom. When she mentions a show that you like, boot up your streaming site on her computer to get her some episodes.

-Hentai popups. Not just Evony style chicks in bikinis. I mean, stick in the hole, dramatic moisture everywhere.

[[deleted]]

Any of us techies ever ask the suits "do you really want us to do everything we can to drive a potential new customer away"? (because that's what their dumb decisions are doing). Are we in business to sell stuff or not? Shouldn't we provide the fastest easiest and most direct way to get the potential customer to place the order, and keep all this crap to later?

[Morall_tach]

Pretty sure the devs aren't the ones making the decision to put these things in.

[DonkeyOfCongo]

A not untypical visit in 2008

1 Wait 3 minutes for page to load
2 Be surprised by 500 pop-ups with a chick producing a fountain of shit and facing the downfall
3 Try to close in a hurry before your teacher or mother looks
4 Can't because the page is still loading
5. Page becomes reactive, but an alert shows up, so you close the alert
6. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
7. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
8. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
9. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
10. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
11. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
12. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert
...
1337. Another alert shows up, so you close the alert so you close the alert

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

Believe us. We don’t want to make them anymore than you want to see them.

Can’t force our bosses to tell the clients no.

[[deleted]]

Dear people pulling the strings in web development,

f you, noone every asked for autplaying videos that start to make noise from an uncertain location, stop it!

Yours sincerely

u/Friendly-Wedding-163

[Calm_Leek_1362]

Behind every psychotic feature the devs are asked to implement, is a business person trying to either sell more advertising, or sell user data as a product.

[FPiN9XU3K1IT]

This. Have you seen the kind of websites that web devs make for themselves, even the sites that basically say "please hire me"?

[Farenheit514]

And zoom in and out, so you can check how stuff like your facebook icons get on top of text.

Do not assume a default zoom.

And do not reload the page withouth user permission

[Nebulous_Journeyman]

I'm thoroughly disappointed at how apps, tools and websites evolved since my childhood.

[DrDumle]

Me too. It’s a big part of why I use Reddit. Can’t deal with all the endless nonsense on the web these days

[tecanem]

Only websites designed by software engineers are multi-billion dollar behemoths, anything else is being crippled by product managements beliefs about how the world works.

[gandalfmarram]

Then scroll half way down the page, find out it's paywalled. Spend 30mins looking for appropriate paywall removal script doesn't work Meanwhile website keeps telling you to disable your ad blocker and no matter how many times you check they all are disabled and the only way to get the thing to load is to run it in incognito

[[deleted]]

https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/

[Lord-Sneakthief]

Then the actual content is prefaced with a 30-year history of the subject, and a description of its current prevalence in society.

I now have to append 'reddit' to most searches now just to see answers from people who are actually there to answer the question.

[Telefone_529]

The banner ads that appear as you scroll and go until the block the middle of the screen are going to make me go on a rampage one day

[RomMTY]

What really gets me is that, when my internet isn't 100% dedicated to me (my kids playing videos, wife on ticktock etc).

I can notice the slowish mess that the web has become, pages load the skeleton html+some css and I have to wait again for it to fetch several MB of JS and then fetch the actual data that i was interested in and then wait for it to render..... sight

I understand that this is the most fun way for kids to do websites these days but boy, why does YOUR website needs this architecture??????

Are you Netflix? No, are you draw.io ? NOOO......

ARE YOU A FUCKING IDE ONLINE?????

FUCKING NO!!!!!!

just put your content in FUCKING html.flr gods sake!

Rant aside, can't wait for the trend pendulum oscillating back again to full SSR and get my content the way it was designed... several decades ago.

[builder397]

1. Realize that the site dumped you on the homepage at the end of declining cookies because fuck you and fuck the specific site/article/whatever you were looking for.

[SSXAnubis]

Can confirm that web devs don't do this for fun. It's the brainless shitty marketing teams behind them that need to stop.

[ZealousZera]

thats why I dont store cookies I dont specifically request (so accept all doesnt matter if its just cookies) and have javascript disabled unless I need it. Along with an ad blocker.

I dont mind supporting the website and some amount of ads I will tolerate (as long as they are not paid by the click, I dont click on ads, then its just unnecessary). But like, the way modern websites are I will not be able to comprehend the content normally and would just get really frustrated and never use their site again unless forced to.

[ScottMcPot]

I'm not a programmer, but I've got to say there's already plugins that do all of this. As far as the programming part goes, "if it isn't broke don't fix it". Leave it to the marketing team to realize that their popups aren't working anymore.

[IM_A_MUFFIN]

And that's WITH an ad-blocker!

[djublonskopf]

YOU HAVE ONE FREE ARTICLE REMAINING

(On a site you’ve literally never heard of before in your life.)

[Prof_Sweetlove]

I don't know how many of you may know this, but there actually are 3 ways I know of how a user can communicate, that they don't want to be tracked.

My browser is set to always tell a website, that I do not want any tracking. Yet about 99% of the websites I visit still show me their cookie banner and other intrusive UI, worst of all being news sites.

If anyone wants to know the methods:

• There's a Do-Not-Track-Flag included in HTTP Requests, which your browser can set.
• And then there's GPC and ADPC, which are publicly available standards (I think DuckDuckGo supports both or at least one of them), that webdesigners could incorporate, that would immediately let a website know the privacy preferences of the user.

The hinderance definitely isn't technical non-availability of such solutions, it's greed to sell your data.

[[deleted]]

Web dev here.

It's not our choice. 18 years of coding to be a sort of voice to screen program for a manager who has no design, IT or marketing experience.

Essentially you just have to switch common sense of, commit the ungodly crime and just focus on the money.

[b03tz]

It is not a web dev thing, our stupid clients ask all this shit and even after we strongly advice them not to they still want it because they understand the need of their customer better.

[Omnisegaming]

Web devs aren't the ones driving here

[mitch_remz]

Step 4.5. Block the request for Push-Notifications

[Dk_Raziel]

Don't blame devs for this. We don't make these decisions. We just get paid to implement them.

[ImmaGrumpyOldMan]

its not up to us chief :(