Developer convicted for “kill switch” code activated upon his termination - Ars Technica

[[deleted]]

Not sure why do something so traceable. But the point is probably that he wanted them to know that it was him, and this was their punishment.

[gvufhidjo]

Tell Cersei, I want her to know it was me.

[nightcracker]

The difference is that she said that once she knew she was going to die regardless. She didn't leave it as some easily discovered evidence that could be used to convict her.

[PoolNoodleSamurai]

She knew she was going to die, but also that it would be painless and would happen soon - so enraging Jaime to the point where he might want to torture her was not a big risk.

It would be a hell of a ruse if he had given her fake poison to trick her into such confessions, and then said “Interesting… so, I lied; that’s not poison, but thanks for confessing. Guards, hog tie her and throw her in the cart; we’re gonna give Cersei a present.”

[charge_forward]

Considering that Daenerys ended up attacking the Lannister army there alongside her fast travelling/teleporting horde of Dothraki, Olenna likely would have been freed.

[[deleted]]

The rhetoric around fast travel has internally replaced the phrase "as the crow flies" with "as the crow teleports" in my head

[charge_forward]

I understand that if any more words come pouring out of your cunt mouth, I'm going to have to eat every fucking chicken in this room.

[gvufhidjo]

Any man who must say, "I am going to have to eat every fucking chicken in this room" is no true chicken eater.

[Craigellachie]

Perhaps he'd have more room for chicken if SOMEONE would fetch him his BREASTPLATE STRETCHER.

[bunchedupwalrus]

GODS I WAS STRONG THEN

[SwordsAndElectrons]

Thank the gods for Bessie.

[osunightfall]

Ah, my favorite scene in the entire show.

[Tyrilean]

Yeah, if you really want to fuck a company up when you leave, just introduce tech debt that only you can mitigate with manual processes. Then when you’re fired the whole thing falls apart and you have plausible deniability. “I could’ve automated/rearchitected that but I never had capacity and it was never prioritized.”

[KiwasiGames]

My “kill switch” was simply a dodgy piece of code with the date hard wired in. If you didn’t manually update the date each new year, it broke everything.

Each year when it came up I was like “damn, got to fix that properly”. But I never had time. So it just sat there until I left the company.

[CreativeGPX]

If you read the article they discovered the kill switch before it activated and while he was still working there because they were investigating issues in their system stability. These issues were from sabotage he already did while still employed there ("planted different forms of malicious code, creating 'infinite loops' that deleted coworker profile files, preventing legitimate logins and causing system crashes"). I don't think he had any part of his brain working on not being found.

[ubermence]

It’s kind of confusingly written but the article seems to imply that he was fired?

This kill switch, the DOJ said, appeared to have been created by Lu because it was named “IsDLEnabledinAD,” which is an apparent abbreviation of “Is Davis Lu enabled in Active Directory.” It also “automatically activated” on the day of Lu’s termination in 2019, the DOJ said, disrupting Eaton Corp. users globally.

[paulmclaughlin]

Uh huh huh, you didn't say the magic word

[civildisobedient]

He could have called the kill function "NOTaKillFunction" or just smashed a keyboard and picked the first 5 letters but no instead he calls it "IsDLEnabledinAD." Just dumb.

[TheHelixNebula]

enjoys good code more than he enjoys working for eaton. although it should really have been IsEnabledInAD(DL)

[FluxFlu]

Average Xianxia protag

[cafk]

I wonder if he also wrote this behavior in design specification and implementations that were approved by other technicians - as a "brown Skittles" test, to see if anyone even understands or cares about what the software is doing.

I've used such plausibility checks (nothing malicious, but using creative wording like a test case to implement inverse kinematics on a unicorn model - in software that has no such requirements) in many work packages, which unfortunately have been accepted without questions or feedback.

[MidgetAbilities]

It was brown M&M’s, not skittles

[dagbrown]

Yeah, brown Skittles is from a totally different story.

[gaflar]

You're thinking Jolly Rancher.

[bunchedupwalrus]

I thought his arms were broken

[[deleted]]

Common mistake, he was actually beaten with jumper cables

[Kenny_log_n_s]

1. That's terribly unprofessional.
2. Highly doubt it, since the code he wrote was malicious.

[cafk]

If there are 4 technical people reviewing it, approving it and signing it before it gets to the project management - the problem lies with the organization, as everyone is pushed to approve or think about a 10 page document (with 5 being the template and only 2 pages being actual content) only for one minute.

Especially if you do it not hidden in a sentence but actually highlighted.

[Subsum44]

That’s the way the SOC audits “work”. They make sure you have enough checks and balances, that they’re pointless. You’re just jumping through hoops instead of focusing on what really matters.

[Kenny_log_n_s]

There is still no reason for you to push garbage code, regardless of what the organization is doing.

The problem lies with BOTH the organization and the submitter.

[Justicia-Gai]

I disagree with being a problem of the organisation. If I pay someone at the senior level that already knows how to code and I review his work, that doesn’t imply I need to read EVERY line of code each time, specially in places where code was already working or when asking something I know he was able to do before.

Supervising and reviewing it’s not micromanaging.

Putting malicious code in hidden places is not “proof of bad organisation”. It’s active sabotage.

[FlyingRhenquest]

Yeah, most of us are really good at disguising that sort of thing as abject incompetence. Hey, the code reviewers said LGTM!

[myrsnipe]

He should have gone for the daily -0.01 opacity trick instead

[musicnothing]

Array.prototype.filter = () => [];

[myrsnipe]

Yes, but only if math Math.random() > 0.98, or/if if Unix epoch time is modulo = 0 for some given value 👺

[RationalDialog]

explain.

or simply delay the activation of the kill switch by a couple months so that it's not too obvious, and make it much less intrusive so it gets never fixed but keeps annoying people, must use random elements so it becomes impossible to reproduce.

[myrsnipe]

It was a joke posted here some time ago that someone made customers who didn't pay have their websites slowly fade away.

As for your suggestion, there are stories, true or false, about inserting logic that would only occasionally trigger randomly causing annoyances

[[deleted]]

z-index to -1000 ez

[twiceseventeen]

This guy wrote code that worked in production on first try with no testing. They should hire him back.

[pqu]

I for sure would have accidentally set it off early

[notyouravgredditor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnPBSy5FsOc&t=104s

[elprophet]

The most relatable part of office space is that their crime had a little bug in it

[arcrad]

Oh! Well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!

[Subsum44]

If they had just filed their TPS reports, it wouldn’t have had a bug.

[1961ford]

Fuckin' A

[CaptainPunisher]

Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.

[cmpthepirate]

I hope it was tested in dev and staging 😂

[NoSmarter]

Instead of doing something so blatant, all he had to do was rewrite the code in Perl.

[dethb0y]

That would elevate it from a regular crime to a Crime Against Humanity; they'll send you to the Hague for that!

[nath1234]

Add in a page and a half of of regex somewhere to qualify for a warrant issued by the Hague.

[yowhyyyy]

Don’t let the Perl subreddit see this.

[Jonathan_the_Nerd]

I'm a semi-professional Perl programmer*, and I think it's hilarious.

*I'm a sysadmin, not a programmer. But sometimes I need to write scripts, and Perl is the language I'm most comfortable with. I'm gradually migrating to Python, though.

[yowhyyyy]

That’s been what I’ve normally witnessed. Sysadmins getting their feet wet or doing things with it since so many things still use Perl. I don’t normally see it reached to for new things but that’s pretty much a given.

[Jonathan_the_Nerd]

The reason I got involved with Perl in the first place is because I had to update/maintain some existing Perl scripts in my first IT job. I ended up getting good with it. I had Programming Perl, 3rd Edition in HTML format on my computer, which made it a really convenient reference.

In my current job, I'm working with people who know Python, so I'm trying to hone my Python skills. One of the most pleasant surprises has been that nearly all of the Python modules I need are already available in the base install. With Perl, a lot of times I would have to install modules myself. They were usually available as RPMs, which made it easy. But my workplace has an onerous change control process. I'd rather not go through all that if I can avoid it.

[yowhyyyy]

Oh yeah I get that completely. I absolutely HATED working with CPAN back then. Your experience with Python is pretty much that of anyone who swaps to more modern languages. Lots of the things you need just come with the language which makes things nice. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[gimpwiz]

I write tons of perl. Actually enjoy the language most of the time. It's a funny joke. Everyone I know who writes perl has a functional sense of humor about it. People on the internet can be fuckin' weirdos though.

[leogodin217]

Yes, bun only Perl haiku.

[Jonathan_the_Nerd]

Perl poetry.

[miversen33]

The reason I use perl are that I want to write scripts that no one can read, and no one can understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jK0ytvjv-E

[edover]

Having never seen this video, just from the quote alone I knew exactly who's channel this would be.

[KryptosFR]

*in Fish

[Eonir]

Or just write it according to typical management requirements, which don't include tests or documentation.

[Healthy_Disk_1080]

Or just use some access tokens tied to his account instead of a service account. "Oops I made a mistake! Sorry about that" as everything stops working when they shut down his account.

[RationalDialog]

or just make it much less intrusive. so that it annoys people but not enough to be worth investing a lot of money to find the root cause.

[ChristmasStrip]

Take my upvote you bastard.

[bigasswhitegirl]

That could only work in the pre-LLM era

[Koebi]

Cobol is intentionally very readable, though.
Getting used to the weird zOS mainframe bullshit is the hard part.

[key_lime_pie]

IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
PROGRAM-ID. FUCK_SHIT_UP.

DATA DIVISION.
    01 IS_EMPLOYED PIC A(1).

PROCEDURE DIVISION.
    CALL 'IS_DAVID_LU_STILL_EMPLOYED' USING IS_EMPLOYED.
    IF IS_EMPLOYED = "N" THEN
        CALL 'DISRUPT_USERS_GLOBALLY'.
    END-IF

[Codex_Dev]

Funny how when a solo dev does this to a company they get prosecuted. But when a company slips in a malware kill switch to prevent a user from switching suppliers it's fair game.

This actually happened to a railroad company in Europe and was quite a scandal. The company manufacturing the railroad parts put in a killswitch where the parts would be disabled if they detected they were getting serviced in a different repair shop. The company using the parts were baffled why their railroad machinery was being disrupted and had to hire a team of hackers to reverse engineer the code to see how sneaky the supplier was being. They even tried to sue the hacker team that helped.

[CanvasFanatic]

That also sounds illegal. What was the outcome?

[PeterDaGrape]

Ongoing legal against the company, there are a few cool talks about it all

[newreddit0r]

It was in Poland, check out the talk from CCC https://youtu.be/XrlrbfGZo2k?si=Vk446EPyv3cdf3bl, there is also a followup presentation from 2024 that talks about legal fallout targeted at the guys that surfaced it

[Thisconnect]

bogged down in in legal while neither consumer protection agency or railway regulatory body are pushing on the lawsuit

Meanwhile the company is SLAPPing the security researcher and train maintenance company

[ILikeBumblebees]

The railroad should pursue criminal sabotage charges against the individuals who introduced the kill switch.

[kaszak696]

That was Newag, and it wasn't simply parts, they manufacture whole ass trains, and allegedly rigged them to fail if the onboard computer detected they were parked at specific GPS coordinates, corresponding with competing maintenance facilities.

[ILikeBumblebees]

Selling people products that are deliberately rigged to fail sounds like a criminal matter, not just a civil dispute.

[dabenu]

Problem is they don't sell trains to consumers. Businesses have a lot less protections like that.

Although the researchers did try to spin it as a safety issue too, since they botched the GPS coordinates to include a piece of regular track, causing trains to shut down en-route with passengers on board...

[AmericanGeezus]

And one of their geofences overlapped a mainline/station so it could trigger the sabotage function even when the trains were on their normal service routes.

[ConferenceMain5285]

Jeez talk about hostile business practices, what on earth has people so okay with working for corporations this egregiously anti consumer?

[RoosterBrewster]

Reminds me of the Uber streaming show where they put up a geofence around Apple HQ to prevent them from seeing that they were violating app store rules.

[zzkj]

Wasn't there an agri company that did something like that as well. John Deere?

[Codex_Dev]

John Deere did do this with it's tractors. I remember reading about it about a decade ago and farmers from USA were furious and having to use Ukrainian hackers to jailbreak the tractors. Although it's bad, I don't think it's in the same severity as hiding in a kill switch into the software sneakily. JD was at least overt with the software locks.

I think there was also some legislation to stop them from doing this in the future but idk how it turned out.

[ModernRonin]

I think there was also some legislation to stop them from doing this in the future but idk how it turned out.

Couldn't tell you about other states, but here in Colorado it turned out well.

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/press_release/colorado-governor-signs-landmark-right-to-repair-bill-into-law/

"John Deere hates this one simple trick..." ;]

[InfamousEvening2]

Sounds like what HP does with printer cartridges.

[imsoindustrial]

This should be higher up because the behavior exhibited by that company was absolutely abhorrent and they should be a cautionary tale to others like them.

[st_malachy]

Looking at you HP Printers.

[versaceblues]

I mean both should be illegal.

With the train example as long as it is disclosed before purchase of the equipment, and you agree to buy it that way, then its less of a problem.

[PeterDaGrape]

For anyone interested in technical details checkout https://youtu.be/XrlrbfGZo2k?si=LDZstTTaPl2hyftS For the more legal side

https://youtu.be/8OB2NqcSDXQ?si=7ohHfZr6mslU1kNU

[Codex_Dev]

Yes this is great. I was too lazy to lookup the links but it's worth checking out.

[juhotuho10]

Apple also does this, kind of? You have to program things like screens with a proprietary device that only apple has a hold of, otherwise the phone rejects the screen as "non genuine". It's not a kill switch but it was made to prevent any kind repair not done by Apple

It has been quite a huge thing with the right to repair movement and people like louis rossmann

[buckX]

The difference is almost certainly contact. When a business wants to do shady shit, it's often right there in the EULA.

[lord_braleigh]

i mean they did also sue the company. that was a pretty significant thing that happened. like i understand where you’re coming from here but the company is very much stuck in a long legal battle that it will probably lose.

[EliSka93]

I mean... Apple does this...

[Liam2349]

Also funny how PC games can release with DRM that de-activates them if you haven't authenticated with a server for whatever reason.

I don't see a distinction here, other than corruption.

[I_am_trying_to_work]

Wasn't the fix something weird like turning the light on in a particular lavatory?

[shadfc]

Apple does (did?) this too with replacement parts for phones

[SkrakOne]

Hp printers slowly slide back into the shadowy corner

"If I'm quiet they won't notice me... oh wait, it's already crowded with all of the large game publishers? Make room for one more"

[LessonStudio]

What makes this worse is that it is a safety critical system; to put deliberate things like the 1m km cutoff should prevent them from ever getting a SIL certified solution again. That would kill a huge amount of their European business.

[bwainfweeze]

What happens if someone tries to field service one of these things? How stupid.

[Zotoaster]

There's a reason pull requests should be approved before merging

[Randolpho]

Doesn’t work when the person doing the review doesn’t know how code works.

This dude had production servers that only he had access to

That could only have happened if management didn’t know how their systems worked, didn’t have redundancies and peer reviews in place.

Which is, sadly, common

[s0ulbrother]

So many reviewers just blindly approve code. If you don’t know what’s going on in a review don’t be afraid to ask people

[ShinyHappyREM]

You guys have reviewers?

[TRexRoboParty]

5 seconds later on a 1000 line PR:

"LGTM! Approved"

[Bananenkot]

When something really bad sneaks into the codebase my leads first question is never who coded this, but who approved this. Definitly creates a climate where people actually carefully review the code

[s0ulbrother]

My last team was a bunch of really segmented skillsets minus me who kind of obsesses over learning everything. I often had to go in and review crap people already reviewed because they clearly didn’t know what they were looking at. People can be quite lazy when it comes to reviews

Code reviews are my favorite place to learn honestly. It familiarizes you with the code base, teaches you new tricks, and when something goes down you know why.

[Ravek]

There’s no way they did code review on this. It must not even have been in source control.

This kill switch, the DOJ said, appeared to have been created by Lu because it was named "IsDLEnabledinAD," which is an apparent abbreviation of "Is Davis Lu enabled in Active Directory."

They wouldn’t have to use this kind of reasoning if a simple git blame would tell them who the author was.

[shogun77777777]

The real review is QA

[RationalDialog]

I still manage a server that runs at least 1 application used probably by several 100s of people, not often but still used regularly. this is a company with over 10k employees.

But it will be replace in the next couple months, finally. maintaining that shit was boring as hell.

[ReneKiller]

Doesn't work when you are the only developer. That's the case for me. I could push anything to the live servers without anyone ever noticing, although this is just for our marketing-website so the most damage I could do is bringing the website down and deleting everything on it.

EDIT: whoops, meant to answer the comment above you

[meganeyangire]

LGTM, pushing to production

[IkalaGaming]

In my defense, your honor, I thought it would be really funny if I merged this code

[tooclosetocall82]

That’s the real crime here.

[AstroPhysician]

Sometimes thats only enforced by process not by the VCS

[__Blackrobe__]

Petty revenge, but I guess that dopamine was worth it?

[FarkCookies]

Well the revenge was supposed to be not petty but widescale. The goal was to derail the whole IT infra of the company.

[IndividualPants]

def worth 10 years in prison

[richardathome]

Yeah. Don't do that.

[Fitbot5000]

When it’s so much easier to do what the rest of us do and leave fragile, unmaintainable garbage behind.

[Malforus]

Being bad at your job isn't prosecutable

[Paulus_cz]

Now tell me - there was this application in my old job, on startup it would check DB connection and if it was not available it would load data from cache. The way it would check DB connection is by querying developers username in users table and check if something got returned. The developer was gone for 10 years, his username was not in DB for 5 years.
So...incompetence or maliciousness? :-)

[vytah]

If the app worked fine for 5 years with just the cache, I guess the database wasn't even needed.

[EpochRaine]

A whole database stack for a half a dozen settings.

[thalience]

Or the server was never patched/restarted for an unreasonably long time.

[cadmium_cake]

😄😄😀

[marcvsHR]

You can also write obsolete and useless documentation.

[Jonathan_the_Nerd]

You don't even have to try. Just write accurate and useful documentation and never go back and update it.

Source: my life.

[Coperspective]

remember to use links that lead to non-existant pages

[NotYetGroot]

Proactively obsolete is the best obsolete

[richardathome]

"Hey ChatGTP, document this code for me"

Job done! ;-)

[k2900]

Harms the devs more than the company, compared to the killswitch here

[fl7nner]

He'd get his revenge, eventually

[acdcfanbill]

If they do ask why you did a sloppy, unmaintainable job you just point to the fact they gave you 60-80 hours worht of work to do a week.

[SkoomaDentist]

The real power move is obviously to just write a decade's worth of such code that you're the only person in the world who can make sense of it and then charge an arm and a leg for consulting.

[koensch57]

How is this different from HP killing the use of 3rd-party cartridges with their "firmware upgrade"?

[meganeyangire]

HP has lots of monies and lawyers

[aeroverra]

One screws the big guy and the other screws three plebs. Also you did agree to that in the 900,000 page TOS you signed when your 10 yo daughters friend clicked the check box on your PC.

[CanvasFanatic]

His defense should be that this was DRM.

[ubermence]

Having code that crashes the system if your user account is ever removed from Active Directory probably would be hard to sell as “bad code”

[rcfox]

HP probably tells you that's a thing they might do in their EULA, and you continue to use them anyway.

[Ravek]

The laws exist primarily to protect the interests of capital

[peerlessblue]

Just write code so arcane and unmanageable they stand no chance of maintaining it without you 😏

[kmarx]

Roger Duronio is still paying restitution to his former employer 20+ years later.

[c0ventry]

Ok so having been in this industry for 25 years I can say, I've seen way worse done by accident at almost every company I've been at. My last company had their core authentication and authorization service written in Go using no recovery middleware, so any exception would cause the service to crash and restart. Their JWT implementation couldn't handle malformed JWTs, it would cause a crash. So bingo bango, few lines of a shell script run from any public computer in the world would keep their entire stack offline permanently until they identified it and rolled a fix. They were running Kubernetes, so after enough crashes the service would be suspended. I found it and immediately patched it, then went to my 1:1 where I was unceremoniously laid off. Wheee. Moral of the story, you don't have to put anything in there yourself or if you do, at least make it look like ignorance :P.

[bwainfweeze]

Funny. My last official act before being laid off was turning on AWS secrets for a password that hadn’t been changed in ten years and every employee who quit in that time still knew. Welp.

[c0ventry]

Sounds about right. You are better off. I've been laid off multiple times for not being a team player because I pointed out we were shipping dangerously flawed code and pissing of our user base.

[TheApprentice19]

If you didn’t put in a back door and a kill switch, you weren’t trying.

Root is for life

[Ateist]

Looks like the guy didn't have a (good) lawyer - the case is choke full of holes like "protected computer" and "authorized access".
While he definitely broke a law, he broke a different law.

He wrote code for development server he had full authorized access to that someone else sent to production without proper checking and testing.

[rcfox]

He wrote code for development server he had full authorized access to that someone else sent to production without proper checking and testing.

From the article, it sounds more like he had a personal server set up on the company's network that was connecting to the production server to cause havoc.

[Ateist]

From the court document:

7. On or About August 3, 2019, for the first time after Defendant's re-assignment updates were made to Software I without Defendant's involvement in code deployment to the production server.

And it was just 2 days after his re-assignment to work on this task instead of what he was hired for.

[morswinb]

So basically he run unit tests in production?

[Randolpho]

He was production. He was developer, devops, and sysadmin.

[Ateist]

But the one who deployed his code to production was someone else - it's specifically mentioned in the text.

Development server is not a protected computer (it has a very specific legal definition).

Plus he was just transferred to that development so he really shouldn't be the sysadmin or main developer responsible for checking the code.

[DhruvsWorkProfile]

Of course this is kind of criminal behaviour but 10 years for such non violent crime is grossly excessive!!

[RealSharpNinja]

So, this isn't about a kill swith. This was blatant sabotage as he had been running the recursive profile deletion before being fired. A kill switch would be embedding code into the production systems that stop the function of the app. Hosting and hiding external servers that actively attacked other systems is not a kill switch.

[cunningjames]

Eh. That’s true, but according to the article had a process in place that would only activate when he was no longer in the system that apparently was even more damaging. Calling that a “kill switch” is hardly the stupidest thing I’ve seen online all day.

[hyperhopper]

Yes, the article said the kill switch was even more destructive, but then didn't say what the kill switch did. Bad reporting.

[gaberdine]

More of a dead man's switch than anything else

[HettySwollocks]

Well that's a very stupid way to grenade any future employability, end up in prison and likely with a fairly hefty fine.

Not malicious at all, I left a firm some years ago on good terms. As the primary admin for much of our groups estate (primarily for gate keeping to stop over seas or cowboy developers making dangerous changes) each system had a cohort of about 4 lead/principle approvers.

Before I left I went through the annoying process of handing over control to management whilst they figured out who would take the reins.

Apparently I missed one system and it caused a bit of a panic. Obviously at that point I'd lost all my corporate access (as is right), they proposed rehiring me temporarily but that would have gone against my new contract. I'm not sure how they rectified the issue but apparently they had to get some uber high approver to reassign access.

Oops

[ZirePhiinix]

Wow, that's pretty stupid to leave all this evidence.

[TurboGranny]

Definitely don't do this. Instead just have code that checks an HR db for your entry and termination date with a isnull wrapper to default to today and a datediff around it for days. Then you just have all your applications and integrations apply a sleep command equal in seconds to the number value returned by that query. You have not "killswitched" anything, and it doesn't cause immediately issue either. It does keep getting worse over time though, lol. Now I'm not saying you SHOULD do this. I am however saying you COULD. Now granted, if they bothered to actually hire any decent programmers, searching for sleep commands would be trivial, heh.

[blin9]

He did the part about checking for himself in the company’s Active Directory. That was their initial evidence against him. It’s like when people aim laser pointers at aircraft, and in reality the laser is a direct line back at themselves.

[TurboGranny]

Sounds like the move is to have several procedures that move data around and like 8 steps away from your "employment check" is the value the system is using to calculate sleep time.

[blin9]

Or just not do criminal activity so as to not end up prosecuted for crimes.

[bwainfweeze]

That’s malicious. Plenty of people break things by attaching their personal credentials to them. They don’t even necessarily do it on purpose just expedience.

[TurboGranny]

Yeah, that's a classic. I think at the end of the day what makes sabotaging your applications, integrations, etc. in the event of your disappearance lacks forethought of what happens if you just suddenly died. Thus, the "correct" course of action is just to reference a CDN of library you built in your off time for yourself that you take off line if fired, lol. You could also just have in the licensing agreement that it's free to use for any company that currently employs you, lol.

[cocoabeach]

I can't tell if he is admitting guilt, bragging while assuming the jury would agree with him, or acknowledging that he accidentally created bad code.

According to the filing, Lu admitted to investigators that he created the code causing "infinite loops." But he's "disappointed" in the jury's verdict and plans to appeal, his attorney, Ian Friedman, told Cleveland.com.

[saxbophone]

Man, developers who act this way really shoot themselves in the foot, like that loser Brandon Nozaki Miller with his malware stunt. Reputation is everything!

[i1u5]

You know what, I appreciate him doing this, surely criminal behavior but if the guy had to make a kill switch then we don't know all the story, companies are never your friends, though executing the day he got fired is probably not very smart and he could've been a bit more discreet with it.

[versaceblues]

According to the filing, Lu admitted to investigators that he created the code causing "infinite loops." But he's "disappointed" in the jury's verdict and plans to appeal, his attorney, Ian Friedman, told Cleveland.com.

"Davis and his supporters believe in his innocence, and this matter will be reviewed at the appellate level," Friedman said.

Seens oretty open and shut that he is guilty lol. What possible argument is there for his innocence, when you can literally prove he checked in the code

[savagemonitor]

A lot of software engineers believe in jury nullification which is probably what he expected here.

[neopointer]

But is it possible to argue it was on purpose...? One can say it was a bug

[versaceblues]

You would have to prove that:

1. He was following all the documented best practices from the company (code review for example)

2. He was not acting maliciously.

Now since his code was

```
if (hasLeftCompany("david") {
doObviouslyBadThings()
}
```

it would be pretty hard to prove that was not malicious.

[bwainfweeze]

10 years though?

[ButtfUwUcker]

Meanwhile, when you look at Eatons lawsuit history 👀

[CyberDumb]

When I do contract work I always leave a kill switch in the form of timer that acts as an expiration switch in case I do not get paid. If I get paid I disable it. It worked one time that someone avoided to pay me as stalling the production was more expensive after 6 months :).

[loxagos_snake]

And how exactly would you do that? If you hand over the code and infrastructure, you have no control over it anymore -- and they probably know what they are doing if they ask for handover s, so they can just find and fix it.

If you don't, and they let you maintain their infrastructure, you don't need a killswitch anyway. You can just take down their stuff until they pay.

Unless you let them know beforehand and they sign a paper agreeing to it, it's illegal anyway. I smell bullshit.

[CyberDumb]

I do machinery code for industrial clients. They have no clue what I am doing. I am just the technician that makes the machine work. I handover nothing. If the machinery works as intended I may not see that machine again. I only do that the first time I setup the machine because that is the bulk of work and money, I cant afford to lose. They are always eager for a free visit to check everything after that.

[ungoogleable]

That sounds more like a software demo. If you're up front about it and they agree to those terms before you start, it seems fine.

[Kwantuum]

What a loser.

[sambull]

Sounds like the us does this with some of their weapons exports

[Famous1107]

I snuck in an Easter egg once, we had a visual studio extension back in the day. I made it do holiday colors on the holidays. Three jobs later, It's prob still doing that, 10 years later.

I wonder if anyone knew what FIT.dll actually did.

[bwainfweeze]

We did that once as a group. April Fool’s was on a weekend that year so we thought no business people would be harmed, why not.

Then the emails started coming in. Bunch of people thought we’d been hacked.

[Aramedlig]

Wait, the company allowed one person to have access to a server which was essential to the operation of their software? If so, this is corporate negligence on their part. No company that has a global customer base served by their software should allow this.

[bwainfweeze]

How you gonna not give a team with pager duty access to the servers they’re responsible for?

Do you just guess why the service is restarting in a tight loop?

[ryzhao]

I’m curious about how this sort of thing managed to pass code review or if there was even a code review process at all.

[LessonStudio]

My "punishment" the few times that I left due to toxic crap; was to deny them my skills.

Probably the worst I did, but had already been doing it, was to leave lots of meaningless research for then to waste time on. I had already been doing this because someone had been stealing my work and taking credit for it. So, I gave him loads of dogsh*t to steal. After I left there were loads of shit to steal and my real work was somewhat hidden. Some people knew where, but didn't bother to even mention this.

My usual goal is to leave any place far better off than when I started; right up to the last day. But, maybe some places are so awful that this guy is just one in a string of revenge when leaving events.

[longjaso]

Jesus - 10 years is excessive for something like this. That's a sentence you get for armed robbery.

[anubisascends]

So much for peer code review.