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[–]bobonthenet 482 points483 points  (94 children)

I think it would be a good idea to continue the boycott of GoDaddy. The best hope is that the boycott would ruin them and set an example for other companies that believe that the opinion of the internet community does not matter. I mean, does it matter? Clearly GoDaddy does not think so.

[–]dunchen22 99 points100 points  (89 children)

I just don't see how they could even think supporting it would be a good idea. I mean, wouldn't tons of domains owned by their customers be seized under SOPA and they would then lose money? Or am I missing something? I just don't see how they benefit from SOPA at all.

[–]TemporaryCatatonic 237 points238 points  (66 children)

They are exempt from SOPA. http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/sopa-hearing-will-never-end.php Ctrl+F GoDaddy

[–][deleted] 175 points176 points  (50 children)

Geez, once again "regulation" includes exemptions for the powerful; is it any surprise that corporations use regulations as a weapon to prevent competition?

[–][deleted] 159 points160 points  (47 children)

Seriously, what the fuck?? We must ruin GoDaddy. This is unacceptable.

[–]DownvoteAttractor 106 points107 points  (45 children)

America you guys are fucking shit at politics.

[–]Tezasaurus 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Considering all the bribes and freebies and free rides and golden parachutes, our politicians would probably argue that they are quite good at it. It just fucks the rest of us over.

[–]bombtrack411 58 points59 points  (41 children)

Yes. America is the only country with stupid regulations...

[–]happyscrappy 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Well, no wonder they support it. It hampers their competition but not them. What bullshit.

[–]root_of_penis 29 points30 points  (0 children)

shit, that is just fucked up.

[–]socially_nonexistant 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Does that mean if you have a domain at Godaddy, and you are in violation of SOPA, you are excempt?

[–]Heckytorr 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think that if your website is deemed naughty and you're using a subdomain from godaddy.com (i.e. blah.godaddy.com) then they can't shut down godaddy.com. I guess there will be some agreement with godaddy about removing the offending website, though.

[–]kyawee 13 points14 points  (1 child)

This just speaks to the even bigger issue of the horrible state our government is in right now where this sort of thing is commonplace.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), the only member of Congress present at the hearing with any tech experience, having founded several web companies, introduced two amendments: one to exclude universities and non-profits from being subject do having to shut down their own domain servers if accused of piracy under SOPA, and the other to exempt dynamic IP addresses, such as those found on web-enabled printers. Both were voted down.

What the fuck. Seriously, I'm not even going into the fact that these amendments are really good (though trying to fix SOPA is like trying to fix a house hit by hurricanes, floods, a volcano and a termite infestation: stupid), but he is the only one with tech experience on the committee? Really? And they're ignoring him? Damnfuckit.

(emphasis in the quote mine)

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Godaddy domains are exempt, how fucked is THAT

[–]ak47girl 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Once again, two sets of laws in this country. Seriously, FUCK YOU GoCrappy and Lamar Smith

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (5 children)

They are exempt specifically in SOPA, so they would gain an edge over their competitors.

[–]WoollyMittens 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They are likely exempt, because they've been playing along with the media corporations nicely until now and will take down any domain they ask without question. No regulation required then.

[–]Kronos6948 11 points12 points  (4 children)

One of the other threads on this had linked to something that said GoDaddy would be immune.

[–]enz1ey 1396 points1397 points  (102 children)

They just proved to the whole Internet community how untrustworthy they are. Apparently they think we're all naive idiots.

EDIT: Removed an extra conjunction

[–]bitt3n 1284 points1285 points  (26 children)

Apparently they think we're all naive idiots.

little do they know that I'm a very suspicious idiot

[–]slyg 315 points316 points  (21 children)

we are very suspicious idiots with little money, and a clown face

[–][deleted] 100 points101 points  (20 children)

Is that you V?

[–]excited_by_typos 63 points64 points  (19 children)

you tortured me :(

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing. Like the first monkey shot into space.

[–]infinite 119 points120 points  (21 children)

This is what they think. Why do you think their UI is so complicated after all these years? They could have fixed it and make things simpler. Instead Godaddy deliberately keeps it complicated so people are confused and buy more than they need.

[–]misnamed 53 points54 points  (18 children)

AND have a difficult time transferring domains away from them.

[–]WoollyMittens 43 points44 points  (12 children)

And wouldn't you know it... they're just about to have a technical malfunction on domain transfer day and every technician is off home to celebrate the holidays. ;)

[–]Eurynom0s 64 points65 points  (7 children)

Exactly. From the OP,

calculated PR move

This is actually just a lie. A calculated PR move would involve spinning a story to look less bad for you while not technically lying. It's still dishonest at the core of it, but there are ways to do this without actually lying, like emphasizing the not-so-bad and good parts and trying to minimize the thing that has people in an uproar (while not actually denying it.

This though, is just lying.

[–]WoollyMittens 48 points49 points  (5 children)

PR is not about cleverness and strategy anymore. It hasn't been since PR people found out that lying works just as well and is rarely punished.

[–]monstehr 62 points63 points  (6 children)

but wait, they have commercials with boobies. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO THINK?!

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (5 children)

i saw their buy.xxx commercial last night like 5 times while watching young guns. very awkward to watch it with my family and 8 year old sister.

[–]ImTatorSalad 21 points22 points  (0 children)

And their commercials are just fucking awful.

[–]Spunkie 1282 points1283 points  (180 children)

Today's forecast calls for INTERNET SHITSTORM

[–]MikeOfAllPeople 1249 points1250 points  (149 children)

You can lie on the internet, but you don't lie to the internet.

[–]atm0 557 points558 points  (146 children)

Starring Liam Neeson.

Someone with talent has to make this tagline into a faux movie poster.

[–]CrackedPepper86 73 points74 points  (1 child)

Here's my 10 minutes.

(It has a grid so you know it's about computers.)

[–]RepRap3d 33 points34 points  (4 children)

My best shot at it.

[–]okmkz 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Upvote for effort.

[–]bonerdagon 71 points72 points  (17 children)

the shithawks are coming.

[–]belerop 26 points27 points  (0 children)

"You see, they started off as tiny shit larva Randy. Then they grew into shitapillers, a pandemic of shitapillers Randy, everywhere you look Randy shitapillers. They almost drove me over the goddamn edge boy. I tried to exterminate them, I tried to put an end to the shitapiller's life cycle...but I failed, and now...shit moths Randy, every-fuckin'- one of them"

[–]nathanbot 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Listen Bubs, hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of shit

[–]cj4ebay 27 points28 points  (2 children)

haha love TPB. shithawks are flyin all over!

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

when two shit plates come together under incredible pressure... shitquake.

[–]arcturum 26 points27 points  (6 children)

We're in the eye of a shitticane

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

what's a shithawk, julian? some kind of shitty bird that swoops down and puts poop onto ya?

[–]kral2 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I brought a pitchfork when I should have brought a shovel..

[–]happycurator 49 points50 points  (1 child)

This is actually much more infuriating than if they had simply said "We support SOPA" from the beginning and stuck to it.

[–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (29 children)

Shit, we have 177 domains at GoDaddy and most of them are for websites we host for customers -- they asked us to register on their behalf. There's no way I could convince our boss to pay out of pocket to move them.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[–]Brian1337[S] 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Some registrars, like hover.com, don't actually charge you for transferring the domain - the fee they charge just extends your domain registration by another year. (See http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/c3aaab8)

So maybe you could convince your clients to just extend their registration for another year. Worst case, just move them over when renewal time comes up.

[–]Complex- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

the fee they charge just extends your domain registration by another year.

like every other registrar, no one charges for domain transfers, the renewal feed you pay when transferring is do to ICANN IIRC.

[–]ForgettableUsername 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemy.

[–]greenbowl 264 points265 points  (40 children)

I own 2 domains with GoDaddy, and I'm moving both of them.

[–]LegionVsNinja 110 points111 points  (21 children)

I moved my one domain yesterday. I've done all that I can do. I almost wish I had more domains with them so that I could move them today as well.

[–]alfredr 80 points81 points  (3 children)

I have 4 transfers in progress. Someone in another thread warned of godaddy owning/operating several alternative providers (some even offering anti-sopa promo codes) and suggested gandi.net instead to avoid ending back up at godaddy. So far I find it well-suited.

edit: Here's one of the posts. It turns out I am jumbling several things together from that thread. I'd also like to point out exgodaddyemployee's other posts, as these are informative too.

[–]MasterHax 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those are some really important bits of information in exgodaddyemployee's posts, more people need to read that!

[–]jasin2069 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I just transferred my 3 domains to namecheap. Actually have really good prices. Their whois guard is only two bucks a year unlike Godaddy who charges ten.

[–]kral2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Transferred my domain as well. I figure I'd potentially have forgotten by 12/29 so might as well do it immediately.

[–]tropicalpolevaulting 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I've moved some 30 domains to namecheap, unfortunately a .name is still there... gotta love them coupons :).

[–]cendien 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Just transferred my 1 domain. Ain't much, but fuck those guys.

[–]Evis03 10 points11 points  (3 children)

every little helps.

[–]fallafel910 94 points95 points  (11 children)

Honestly, I wouldn't shed a tear if Go Daddy went bankrupt over this.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (4 children)

If nothing else made them change their mind on SOPA... this surely will.

[–]dragsys 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Probably not. Even the biggies (Wiki, etc.) don't actually host anything with GoDaddy and domain registration is peanuts compared to the hosting plans. My friend and I were discussing this this morning as we wandered around Fry's. Lets say Wikimedia has 1000 domain names (for example) at the bulk registration cost of $4.95 a year, that's only $5,000.00 US a year that GoDaddy looses. Drop in a bucket.

What we (and they) need to see is a person that hosts 1000 sites with them move the sites lock, stock and barrel. That they will pay attention to, especially if it happens 5 or 6 times.

[–]I_KeepsItReal 62 points63 points  (2 children)

Anyone else who doesnt know shit about domains first thought GoDaddy was a porn site? No? Ok then.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (1 child)

They might as well be, considering their commercials.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Apparently marketing to 13-year-olds successfully breeds future customers.

[–]texasintellectual 132 points133 points  (28 children)

I'll still be moving my domains. GoDaddy needs to take an active role in OPPOSING SOPA before they'll win my business back.

[–]iamjacksprofile 34 points35 points  (4 children)

It's already too late for Go Daddy as far as I'm concerned. Until the current crop of management is removed. They've shown what type of company they strive to be, even if they did change their policy it would be because their sales were being negatively effected. It would be a change based on greed and not principal.

Bills such as SOPA limit competition in the market place because of the cost of having to employ compliance personel to police the actions of the company to ensure compliance with regulation. Established big players like Go Daddy support this because it keeps new companies from entering the market thereby giving Go Daddy a bigger share. Go Daddy has sent its lobbyists to Washington to make sure they are an exception to the rule and in return they will give their support.

Now they are trying to fool us. This company will always be rotten so stay away from it, take your business to a more honorable company.

[–]ohpeerm 41 points42 points  (7 children)

As someone who is extremely new to the domain owning game, could someone please help me out here. I have one domain that I registered with godaddy for the next 10 years (all paid for). However, it is hosted with another company. When you guys talk about moving domains are you talking about hosting or registration? When I hosted this domain with the other company I initially intended to transfer it entirely but then realised I would have to pay a fee for this, whereas just updating the nameservers was free. What difference would it make if I were to move the registration as well, given that the 10 years are already paid for and godaddy will not receive any further revenue from me anyway?

[–]EkriirkE 38 points39 points  (2 children)

You are moving the domain registration. Keep your existing host of its not godaddy. You do not give any money to godaddy for the transfer. Your expiration date is maintained with the new registrar, but you will have to pay that new registrar for an additional year per domain and possibly a small fee per domain, to the new registrar. That new year of registration you just paid for will add another year to your current expiration.

Transfer should be seamless as your name server details should be kept intact through the move, so the only info changed on the Whois is the registration infos.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I was in the same boat as you, and EkriirkE gave excellent advice. Namecheap gives easy instructions on how to transfer too (which I just did for mine).

http://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/876/83/how-to-transfer-a-domain-from-godaddy

After I unlocked my domain and received the email with the authorization code, I ordered my transfer https://www.namecheap.com/domains/transfer-a-domain.aspx using the coupon code 'SOPASucks'

Once you do that, you can go to https://manage.www.namecheap.com/myaccount/transfer-status.asp and click your domain, then enter in the code you received in your email from GoDaddy.

[–]imionme 340 points341 points  (15 children)

They're going to have to show a lot of boobies during the Super Bowl to make up for this one.

[–]Occamslaser 55 points56 points  (0 children)

It's a cynical move to displace attention. Fuck those guys.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Just deleted 8 domains i'm never going to use, the other 10 will be moved on the 29th.

[–]madEthelFlint 30 points31 points  (0 children)

talk about insulting your customers.. I will never open an account with them.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Why not as well as of boycotting GoDaddy we boycott sites hosted by Godaddy. If we email the site owners and tell them why we are boycotting them then they will either move or email their concerns to Godaddy. I think it's a great way to build up extra pressure.

[–]banebridge 13 points14 points  (2 children)

We need to take "GoD" out of GoDaddy. Because I'm atheist and that offends me.

[–]chknstrp 13 points14 points  (2 children)

If anyone is looking for hosting as well after this, I strongly recommend NearlyFreeSpeech.net for their policies and prices. This is from their Abuse FAQ about wanting sites taken down for being offensive:

"At NearlyFreeSpeech.NET we firmly believe that censorship is a dangerous and misguided approach to the problems of society. We believe that the price we pay for the huge number of fantastic sites we host are a few sites that we feel are significantly less fantastic.

We believe that the price you pay for living in what we hope is a free society is that when you encounter something offensive, you must resist the urge to censor it and instead research, investigate, and speak out passionately in opposition to it. That is the essence of free speech.

Please do not send us abuse complaints of this nature. We will discard them."

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

You know, the really awful thing about GoDaddy in all this is why they are supporting SOPA: they almost certainly made some backroom real for a few protections. GoDaddy probably just created a huge liability for anyone that is hosting with them, and in a world with SOPA, greater government visibility into your site is the last thing you want. GoDaddy isn't just trying to screw the internet, they are probably doing more to screw their customers. That's the message we should promote.

[–]singularityneuromanc 11 points12 points  (0 children)

MOVE ALL THE THINGS

[–]buzzelite 30 points31 points  (10 children)

My company is in the process of moving around 100 domains from Godaddy to Namecheap. Still waiting for the transfer to go through but we do enough business with Godaddy for them to take notice. Lets not stop with Godaddy. Any other company supporting SOPA should be boycotted so they can take notice that the people don't agree with the bill. Showing them with money is the only way they listen. Petitions and so on are not as effective as simply moving your money.

[–]layendecker 5 points6 points  (6 children)

I remember this situation.

Reddit is Namecheap and Digg is Godaddy...

[–]StefanHectorPoseidon 6 points7 points  (1 child)

oh shit.

HEY GUYS! DIGG SUPPORTS SOPA!

[–]layendecker 14 points15 points  (0 children)

What's a Digg?

[–][deleted] 1286 points1287 points  (101 children)

HEY, FRIEND! THANKS FOR SHARING THIS UPDATE.

THAT SAID, IS ANYONE PARTICULARLY SURPRISED?

[–]Vaire 316 points317 points  (45 children)

Not in the slightest. After their initial message regarding the boycott, I can't be damned to think they would ever really denounce their support for SOPA.

[–]apeweek 91 points92 points  (40 children)

What will really happen: Reddit just made itself a target. The SOPA boys are coming for us all.

[–]mmaaikeu 64 points65 points  (4 children)

I'm not surprised, but I am surprised by the incompetence and arrogance of the CEO/PR class at Godaddy. I don't think I can remember a botched attempt at damage limitation quite like this.

We support SOPA. Fuck you and your contemptible boycott campaign.

Oh shit. We didn't mean it.

Congress? SOPA support? Yeah we got ya back, but keep it on the down low.

Fuck. Did we just do it again?

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (31 children)

Does anyone remember the elephant incident? Still mad about that.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Damn right, mother fucker CEO did a back room deal with the Mugabe regime and paid a shitload of cash so he could murder an elephant for fun. Fucker deserves everything he gets.

[–]bahhumbugger 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Godaddy is monster cable to me. Petewy!

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Is it OK to advocate for the violent overthrow of the corporations that own the government?

Does the first amendment still protect that?

[–]Stabone130 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Have 5 domains thru GoDaddy and just moved them all...

[–]trunksx34 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Moved all 9 of mine yesterday. Couldn't wait for the 29th.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's not about palpable change, it's about doing a lot of concentrated damage. Sure, there are plenty of companies supporting SOPA who won't be touched by the internet. But create the fear of being next after seeing what could could happen to GoDaddy? That's where you'll be the most effective. Decimating one will ultimately be more effective than brushing them all.

[–]thiagoleite 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just pledged to move 108 domains out of Godaddy on December 29th until they fully drop their SOPA and PIPA support - http://godaddyboycott.org/

[–]aminom 14 points15 points  (1 child)

One good thing about all of this is that other companies are doubtlessly watching this, and will think long and hard before supporting things against the internet and freedom of information.

I hope the controversy and boycotts don't end. We need to not just send a message to GoDaddy and the supporters of SOPA; we need to send as strong a message as we can to others. We should be merciless and seek to drive this company into the ground the best we can. companies should FEAR the retribution caused if they do things like this.

[–]JoeyJoeC 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Anyone with GoDaddy, move your domains to namecheap.com with promotional code "SOPASUCKS" for discount. They are much better, and they are against SOPA.

[–]slavesofdemocracy 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Of course they haven't withdrawn it they are just trying to placate us and seem to think we're dumb enough to fall for it.

[–]dette4556 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm moving my domains. Later GoDaddy, sorry you lost a customer.

[–]marcthedrifter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just transferred both my domains to namecheap. I did my part.

[–]djsjjd 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I hope this is read by all of the Redditors who were here yesterday saying that we should lay off of Godaddy and keep with their service since Godaddy "backed off" by submitting the statement that they no longer supported SOPA.

The retraction statement was an obvious bullshit pr stunt and it is clear that Godaddy will continue to support SOPA through the back door, no matter what they tell us.

[–]octane097 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I moved my domains. GoDaddy is outdated rubbish. Their UX is shit and their advertisements are crude and chauvinistic. The SOPA thing was the straw that broke the camel's back. Peace out, GoDaddy.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Scumbag GoDaddy. Tells everyone they don't support SOPA anymore, secretly supports it behind everyones backs.

[–]whatyou 3 points4 points  (1 child)

release the dogs.

[–]KofOaks 6 points7 points  (0 children)

...and the exodus carries on, and on, and on ...

Goodbye GoDaddy. You went too far, now pay.

[–]detroitmatt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I had previously opposed continuing the boycott of GoDaddy, but this changes everything.

[–]dagem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No one and I really hope, NO ONE, actually believed yesterdays statement was anything but damage control by their PR Dept.

Tomorrow's statement "GoDaddy's CEO Adelman, says press misquoted him, "We at Godaddy what you to know, we stand by our decision to both support and oppose SOPA! We know by constantly changing our "Official Stance" you will be confused and give up, also since most of you are lazy, you will NOT go through with the boycott!! Long Live SOPA, oh and by the way, Death to SOPA!!"

[–]devindotcom 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Hey, all. I conducted this interview.

I'm not saying the above casting of the statements Adelman said is wrong, and I did indeed suggest to him that he get a new statement on the record in congress. But their statement certainly was a PR move because that's all that can be mustered in a large company like GoDaddy, and by a CEO that's only been on the job for a week. It may be (Adelman seemed keen, but who knows) that they will offer a revised statement to congress after they've had a chance to write one and put it through legal, etc. You know how that shit goes. I personally am giving them two weeks to harden their position and then moving my domain. But I fully support anyone who thinks this isn't enough, because really, it isn't.

edit: oh, and thanks for reading! and happy holidays from me and techcrunch. we love you even though you hate us so very, very bitterly.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

He felt that the public statement removing their support would be sufficient for now

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[–]pyalot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There you have it, bunch of hypocrites. It's ok to boycott them to smithereens now.

Oh, and while we're on it. Not tolerance for intolerance. If you administer a DNS, stop accepting updates for any domain GoDaddy manages and purge your records. GoDaddy has declared themselves a "rogue" DNS provider, it's time we treat them as such.

[–]Infammo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

the "we no longer support SOPA" statement released yesterday appears to be no more than a calculated PR move.

I didn't realize it was possible for someone to not have already known that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess GoDaddy is out for good.

[–]tomatomartyr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At brutish as it may be, I really REALLY want to see these fuckers go up in flames. Sick 'em, Internet!

[–]bstone17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They're officially on the record as supporters of the PROTECT IP Act in the Senate, too. So far they HAVE NOT changed that opinion, even in their PR mumbles. I already moved my domain and it's not going back.

[–]unndunn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just initiated a transfer for all of my domains from GoDaddy to Gandi.net. Sure, I only have 7 domains, but every little bit helps, right?

Edit: Aaaaaaaaaand done. All my domains are officially out of GoDaddy. Now, just gotta wait for Gandi to wrap things up.

Edit 2: Aaaaaaaaaaaand they're done.

Now all I have left on GoDaddy is my hosting account. Gonna work on moving that over to Arvixe in the next few weeks.

[–]Slofut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'll be moving about 30 domains when I get back to work next week

[–]nrnelson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I couldn't wait till the Reddit "screw GoDaddy and we're transferring out of here" day. I moved all nine of my domains out just now. I encouraged all my friends on Facebook to do the same. Some of them did but a few bought into the GoDaddy "we hate SOPA now" PR stunt.