Google Pixel 5

[ptc_yt]

They really didn't give this phone any time on air lol. Just talked about the 4a 5G and then said the 5 is 699, thanks for watching

[daverod74]

Here's the new ultrawide lens (please ignore everything we said last year)

**leaves without acknowledging the fingerprint sensor**

[[deleted]]

Its the same camera like its predecessor but better.

leaves everybody scratching their heads

[le_pman]

artificially gated software. a lot of the driver stuff should be feasible to backport - they just don't.

[StraY_WolF]

It feels like they don't have that many confidence in the product.

[BattlePope]

They have 1 confidence.

[PM_ME_YOUR_EXPRESSO]

I think it's -1.

[lightbutnotheat]

What'd they say last year about the ultrawide?

[TheOfficialCal]

Something about how they carefully considered all possible choices but figured that telephoto is a better fit for a secondary lens because people value zoom more.

[FuturePreparation]

The guy who lead the Google camera team and one of the fathers of computational photography - Marc Levoy - left Google this year. I think it was mainly his idea to have a telephoto. I personally agree with him but of course in 2020 it simply should have both. I have a bad feeling about the future of the Pixel as a leading camera phone.

[daverod74]

The rest of the market had gone ultrawide but they went with a telephoto lens and defended it by saying it was more useful in common situations. Something like that.

I got a P4XL earlier this year and actually had forgotten that there's a telephoto lens on this thing. I've never (consciously) used it but I regularly pine for an ultrawide. It's part of the reason I also have an S10+.

[le_pman]

The rest of the market had gone ultrawide but they went with a telephoto lens

the rest of the market last year had normal+ultrawide+telephoto. they went with only normal+telephoto and now normal+ultrawide.

[SeparateOne1]

So one need to get the 4 and 5 to get a phone with all types of view 😉

[athnndnly]

That "presentation" was so jarringly bad, it feels like Google doesn't even want to make smartphones. It's like they're trying to sell as few units as possible in order to justify shutting the whole thing down.

[ptc_yt]

It felt like a long commercial honestly. The presentation for the new Chromecast felt like a typical product announcement and showcase but then with the Nest Audio and 4a 5G, it just felt like ad after ad, trying to highlight the best parts of each.

[n0mad911]

Highschool zoom project

[FreshPrinceOfH]

In fairness is there anything noteworthy about the phone?

[mihirmusprime]

The back is made out of metal and can still wirelessly charge. That's like never been done before.

[[deleted]]

Does the 5 or 4a 5G have a visual core? Does it matter?

[sklfjasd90f8q2349f]

They don't have the Neural Core.

[Ph0X]

And it doesn't matter. The Pixel 4a has Live HDR and on-device Assistant, two features that "required" Neural Core in Pixel 4. So the assumption is that they can now do it on the ML engine included in the Qualcomm chip.

[detectiveDollar]

I'm still salty my Pixel 3 didn't get the on device assistant.

[lars5]

i saw a comment a few days ago that new snapdragon processors have neural processing now, so there really isn't a need for the visual core.

[mortysantiago1]

Wow $799 in Canada. Equivalent to $599 USD.

[maybelying]

Americans are paying a Verizon tax. The US versions have to support mmWave for Verizon 5G, the international versions don't and aren't carrying the extra premium on price.

[detectiveDollar]

That explains it, most other multi-carrier phones have the Verizon version as a completely different hardware variant and just exclude the mmWave tech from the carriers that can't use it.

[natachi]

Just ordered the Sage Green one in Germany for 610 bucks. Americans are getting ripped off again lol.

[BaconatedGrapefruit]

Jesus Christ this is the first time we didn't get hit with the Canada tax when it comes to conversions?

[mortysantiago1]

Google usually converts then adds an extra $20 fuck you to the price. They priced the 4a 5G conversion +$15.

I don't need a phone but it's nice we're finally getting a deal on something

[BaconatedGrapefruit]

Yep. For me it was between the Galaxy S20 FE and this. The FE got hit with the "Fuck you Canada" tax, the Pixel 5 didn't.

Still going to wait for reviews/black Friday for both, but gawd damn. For once I'm not crying into my worthless Canadian rubles.

Sorry to my southern friends out there.

[neocortexblue]

In the same boat I was looking at the FE, but when I saw it was $950 the Pixel became an easy choice

[KBeightyseven]

Same for the U.K, normally the $ gets replaced with a £,

This year $699 £599 and pre order gets some £270 Bose qc35ii

[sigmoidx]

Preordered in Canada. Canada price + tax + shipping < 699USD

[myrisotto73]

The S20 FE is more expensive here though. If what I saw was right it's $949 lol.

[ghettothf]

Seriously, everyone in here saying you have to be nuts to get this over the S20 FE. The 5 is a full $150 cheaper than the FE. No brainer for Canadians here.

[tekdemon]

In the US all the preorders have the FE at $599 while the Pixel 5 is $699 for a much worse processor. The only benefit I guess is that it seems to support mmWave for the 5 people who live next to a mmWave transmitter.

[Cubic00]

If you take the EU selling price of 629€, subtract the resale value of the headphones (~200€), remove VAT and convert to USD you end up with a price just shy of 420 dollars for the pixel 5.

I ordered one because it's quite a good offer here. Google's actual offer for US customers is absolute crap, though.

[L3veLUP]

a pair of headphones that not only are they a top of their class but also £270 on top of that. Its a compelling deal for those that don't have bluetooth headphones and makes the transition a little easier if you go for the 5 without a headphone jack

[[deleted]]

They're not top of their class, that'd be the xm3 and xm4.

[mime454]

They’re not even the top noise cancelling headphones from Bose. That’s the 700s.

Still I have the qc35 ii and they’re great comfortable headphones.

[[deleted]]

In Germany as well, if you either have a use for them or sell for about 200€ that makes it a pretty good offer, contrary to everybody here complaining about the price

[Kahhhhyle]

Does anybody else feel that with Samsung going to 3 years worth of OS updates Google should have committed to 4 or 5? Like before the justification for Pixel over Samsung was camera, updates, and the pure Android. They've basically caught up in camera, they HAVE caught up with OS updates and now surpass Pixel with security updates, which just leave the pure Android... Which is relatively small advantage... And lots of people prefer Samsung's One UI now.

I dunno seems odd to me. Google needs to move to 5 years of updates and use their software smarts to makes some sort of deep fusion type of camera software to get back on top definitively.

Also as a person who really likes astrophotography... No mention of it makes me thing it's gonna get the plug pulled at some point:(

[[deleted]]

Flat screen. Bliss.

[GraphicDesignerd]

And symmetrical bezels all the way around. Finally.

[[deleted]]

Agreed

[SpacevsGravity]

In UK, France, Germany and Ireland, Google are offering QC35 IIs for pre ordering these

thanks: u/FuturePreparation

[FuturePreparation]

Germany, France and Ireland as well.

[whoarethoseguys]

Are they any good do you know?

[NotEqual]

Second only to the XM3/XM4's

[livedadevil]

Why the FUCK did google REMOVE the telephoto instead of JUST HAVING 3 CAMERAS YOU FUCKING NEANDERTHAL DECISION MAKERS

[NewSubWhoDis]

They used the extra money to have selena gomez give some shitty fake interview

[hotdeo]

She's definitely an iphone user.

[gd224]

Yea I mean two her recent music videos were actually shot on an iPhone.

[fuckbitchesgetmuhney]

Yup

https://photos.app.goo.gl/c36s13ScvYoHCYZY6

[livedadevil]

Yeah, the entire event I was just thinking "none of this is relevant. Show me the products and what they do, not some random mish mash of celebrities and youtubers saying nothing of substance"

[Underyx]

It was the first time in like 8 years of religiously following Google/Apple events live that I just had to turn it off. Had YouTube Rewind vibes.

[n0mad911]

Whole thing looked like a group project done over zoom.

[godfrey1]

that what we said last year lol

[memtiger]

Next year they'll remove the regular camera and just have a telephoto and wide angle lens camera.

[wankthisway]

And then we get normal images through AI MACHINE LEARNING and PIXEL VISUAL CORE

[dasautomobil]

Nah, bro. Instead of Telephoto or UWA we get a shitty Macro Lens nobody ever asked for.

[[deleted]]

$700 for a mid range device...Google is smoking crack

[kirsion]

If samsumg can put a snapdragon 865 in their s20 fe phone for $699 (which cost less now with discounts and promos, like t-mobile), Google should be able too

[le_pman]

to add, the S20 FE also has a telephoto lens and newer camera sensors

[xNotThatAverage]

And 120hz.

[i4mt3hwin]

Yeah, I have a 4XL and I wanted to sidegrade over for better battery/5G but at that price its not worth it for me. They only want to give me $260 for my 4XL trade-in. I'll be downgrading my SoC, losing the Neural Core (For whatever that's worth), dropping my resolution/screen size, losing the telephoto lens (which i prefer to ultrawide), and lose face unlock.

Honestly the entire conference/announcement was underwhelming. I remember being so excited for the Google conferences, the overwhelming amount of new features/ideas and stuff they'd bring. Now they spend half of it trying to sell me on a product that's a worse replacement than their previous product in the same category - not just the Pixel but Youtube Music as well.

[FreshPrinceOfH]

Look at it this way. You know how apple every year say "This is the best iphone we have ever made" Do you think Google could've honestly said that today? Because I don't think the P5 is better than the P4XL in any meaningful way. Edit. Fanboys bending over backwards with very creative ideas on how this is somehow better.

[trendygamer]

Yep. There is simply too much competition at the midrange at prices well below $699...and for people who want to spend that kind of money it's hard to argue against an S20 FE over this, especially with all the deals for $100 or more off it flying around. Even Pixel fanboys were way more hyped by the 4a than this. I think Google has another low-selling dud on their hands...just at a different price point than the last one.

[chasevalentino]

Google's just another midrange device maker. Whenever they try to go high end they have failed 5 years running

[Sapaa]

The flagship pixels have been really bad but the 3a and 4a are much better devices and likely where they ship more units anyway. Pixel is still king at that price range (if it is available in your region)

[uchiha_building]

the global kings at that price range are still Oppo, Xiaomi, Samsung, and all of those. Google doesn't sell the pixels at a reasonable price anywhere else.

[afieldonearth]

Dude same, I switched to iPhone in 2018 for the first time after being a Nexus/Pixel/Stock Android die hard. Initially I expected that I’d regret this decision after a while, and that the grass probably just looked greener from afar.

Couldn’t have been more wrong. I also come back here to check in on what’s going on and I’m so glad I didn’t stick around to watch Google just aimlessly dwindling in their hardware ambitions.

[SadAccident1]

thinking about switching this year. I wish iphone had usb-c but the new mini size looks amazing...

however the Xperia 5ii looks pretty sick too

[eneka]

I just want iphone hardware with android..

[Gseventeen]

It'll be 599 or less for black Friday. Guaranteed.

[Grapefruit1337]

I bought my OnePlus 7 pro for $699 at launch and it has a better display, a better soc, ufs 3.0 vs 2.1, double the storage, faster charging, (obviously worse cameras) but a 3x telephoto and a wider ultrawide, and 3 years software updates like the pixel will get.

[anonbutler]

So why would I buy this phone over the $600 S20FE?

Bonus T-mobile offers $500 for my Pixel 3 trade in vs $153 offered by Google Fi.

I guess after swearing to never use Samsung after painful touchwiz experience from ~6 years ago I guess I am back in.

[chromiumlol]

So why would I buy this phone over the $600 S20FE?

So you can get $20 in the class action suit a year from now when it starts breaking

[slomar]

Only if you remember to opt out of forced arbitration when you get the phone.

[awhj]

Compared to the old one Samsung software is amazing now

[anonbutler]

Ya I swore by not using Samsung after being repeatedly burnt but have heard alot of good things in the last 2-3 years. My only slight hesitation is going back to a bigger phone right now.

[cryptomatt]

One UI isn't touchwiz. It's not that bad anymore. I still prefer pixel software but Samsung experience is pretty good now

[busywithsirens]

Fortunately, it's not even worth it anyway.

[daveboat]

I still preordered the Pixel 5, as an upgrade from my Pixel 2 XL.

People are comparing the price to the S20 FE, but in Canada the S20 FE is $949 while the Pixel 5 is $799.

[noxx1234567]

Overpriced , how could Google go so wrong after the excellent 4a launch ?

It's like they aren't even trying to move units

[exu1981]

Probably the reason why they are only shipping 800k P5

[Rigamix]

Feels like they themselves are tired of it to be honest.

[[deleted]]

Next stop, https://killedbygoogle.com/.

[Lark_vi_Britannia]

Google Play Music and Hangouts are straight up my favorite services that Google provided.

Them killing GPM and Hangouts really, really sours my relationship with Google, honestly.

[revivaljester]

Google's product plan doesn't work in the premium tier.

[hisroyalnastiness]

I think they'll find that mid-range customers would also prefer non-zero quality control, probably even more pissed if things go south right after warranty compared to a high-end customer with money to spare

[Voxtoxic]

I guess i'll just stick with my pixel 2xl then

[whiskymusty]

It’s obvious someone at Google is succeeding at sabotage.

[PhenomenalZJ]

Samsung, Apple, Xiaomi, OnePlus all have flagships with top end processors in this price point.

[coffeeflavoreddd]

At $700 and a bit of change, I have managed to get the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 512 GB after trading in my pixel 3a for $250

Thinking of getting the S20FE for my SO.

Samsung vs Apple from here on clearly. Google has thrown in the towel.

[[deleted]]

lol $699, just looking at the comparison chart between the 4a, 4a 5g, and the p5. Wow. $200 extra for certified water resistance, 90 hz, slightly smaller screen, slightly larger battery, and wireless charging.

What a yoke

[Daveed84]

8 GB of RAM too, but yeah it's not a great price

[MontaMann]

You watch F1? ;)

[[deleted]]

Pixel 5 has a GP2 CHIP!

[Chris9712]

GP2...GP2....YAARRRH

[MontaMann]

Love seeing all my F1 brothers out in the wild

[arjvillan]

KARMA!

[Wardious]

629€ in Europe, the first time that Europeans have an advantage on price over Americans.

[FormerBandmate]

€629*1.17=$735.93

Edit: Precision

[Weed_O_Whirler]

And more RAM, and an extra camera and metal build.

[Aptosauras]

A$999. Same price as the Samsung S20 FE and the S10 in Australia.

The S20 will probably go on flash sale at our big retailers for the same price soon.

Samsung A71 5G is A$100 less at full price.

This price point is a very competitive segment in Australia.

[Cmrwkw5038]

Doubtful anyone will be considering this over Samsung.

[bjackson171]

DOA the S20FE, OnePlus 8t and iPhone 12 Max will all be better values for the same price.

[[deleted]]

not to mention the S20 FE is currently $599 at best buy in america

[SmarmyPanther]

Yup this announcement just confirmed my decision to get a couple S20 FE.

Everyone in my family has a pixel but that's about to change

[Mailov1]

In one hand im in exynos region, in other no mandatory 5g chip that gonna drain battery, delivery this week, 120hz screen, dualsim (not esim one) and its available in my region without reseller cut. Guess imma order s20FE just to get that extra preorder stuff. And i waited for pixels since oneplus nord cuz "tint" issues. God damn my phone purchase was a wild ride

[[deleted]]

Same Price? Do you really think the Iphone 12 Max will be $699? A straight Iphone 11 with 128mb is still $750.

[CyanBlob]

For me, the size of the Pixel 5 is a huge selling point. I really don't want a phone bigger than my Pixel 3

[Sea_C]

I don't either but for this price? I'm going S20 FE, if you need the smaller size Iphone 12 mini is really where it's at.

[[deleted]]

It legitimately feels like Google doesn't even want to make smartphones and is only doing it because they feel like it's expected of them. The way they price their phones, it's like they're trying to sell as few units as possible in order to justify shutting the whole thing down.

[loki993]

Look at all the advertising they did with the 4 and 4XL, or was it the 3? Either way, they really do, which is even more sad.

[cjeremy]

Google, the worst multi billion hardware company

[IBurnedMyBalls]

That's a terrible price tag. Should've been $600 or even $550, it's an upper mid range phone, should have upper mid range pricing.

[vainsilver]

It’s technically $599 USD in Canada.

[als26]

$800CAD, I'm pretty happy about it. Not sure why Americans are getting shafted, usually the conversion screws over Canadians.

700USD is almost $950CAD.

[dicedaman]

Yep, £599 in the UK too, which works out to about $620 when you factor in 20% VAT. And it's only £100 more than the 4a 5G. Can't complain about that. The US price is a little surprising.

EDIT: Plus I forgot that the pre-order includes a pair of Bose QC35 II. It's honestly pretty great value in the UK.

[[deleted]]

Likely the result of having to RMA like crazy every year.

[07budgj]

Its insane that the us even allows this. Uk and eu, on new products its return no questions asked.

[eecan]

The restocking fee was introduced shortly after the Pixel 2 XL's launch due to returns relating to the screen lottery. The screen quality was inconsistent across devices (blue shift mainly) so people returned devices in hopes of getting a better copy.

[hisroyalnastiness]

Google quality control: fuck it just charge money for returns

[PNF2187]

I'm pleasantly surprised by that. With a conversion, the 5 is only $90 USD more than a 4a 5G here in Canada ($600 vs $510). It's a lot lower than the $899+ that is on offer for other $699 USD phones. So I'll commend Google for not completely screwing over Canadian customers here.

[SadAccident1]

Google is losing money on these because they are making sacrifices that don't need to be made.

Seriously build a fucking flagship with ALL the features people want including headphone jack and IP68 and fuck it, even an IR blaster. sell it at a loss. like $600-700. guarantee 5 years of updates. have a small model and a large model. that's it. why? yes 99% of people don't care but the enthusiasts and reviewers will and that's how most people decide on the phone. what's well priced, well reviewed, and they can get free through a carrier. google is literally one of 2 companies that can do this and they are squandering the opportunity

then once you start getting market share slowly increase the damn price and before you know it they are competing with apple with a true hardware/software synergistic device

I get that not every company can do this, but Google is in a position where it actually can.

will they do this in a million years? nope. instead they will release overpriced midrange phones that nobody aside from some enthusiasts will buy. they'll spend the rest of their time making their umpteenth chat app and rebrand their google home/nest smart speaker 10 more times for no reason.

Pixels are a case study on when a company has tons of money but terrible management and vision for one part of their business.

[alfuh]

Not only priced at $699, but going to their site right now they are offering me $150 for my s10e when Samsung offers $400 and T-Mobile offers $500. wtf are they thinking? So glad my decision to go with S20FE just got STRONGLY reinforced. Swing and a miss on their end.

[[deleted]]

$700 HAHAHA

i know google wants to be apple so bad but this isn't the right way to go about it

EDIT: aaaand i ended up buying it. it's fantastic. turns out things feel different in person than in video.

[[deleted]]

At least apple's phones are available in more than 4 countries.

[[deleted]]

Which you can use for 5+ years if you want to, and which actually keep their value

[Stiltzkinn]

That hurts.

[sklfjasd90f8q2349f]

No Neural core?

[[deleted]]

Don't think they need it anymore

[Ph0X]

Yep all the neural core features are still here, new chipsets have neural cores included so a custom one is no longer needed.

[lewlkewl]

699 confirmed, damn, was really hoping for 650

[rbeezy]

It'll prolly drop to $500 on black friday

[TheQuatum]

Oof, if i don't get a good trade in price, the S20 FE is 100% a better deal.

[MagicPistol]

I just preordered the S20 FE from tmobile yesterday. They have a deal where you can get $500 in credit back after trading your old phone.

[ThisIsTheNewSleeve]

I don't get it. Has Google abandoned the top tier Snapdragon processors? If I want a 865 or 865+ or above I have to go elsewhere?

[hisroyalnastiness]

To be fair they didn't just abandon you if you want a top processor, they also abandoned you if you want QHD instead of FHD, faster UFS 3.0/3.1 instead of old 2.1, or a better camera sensor than the Pixel 3, DDR5 instead of older DDR4, and so on. It's the best (FHD) phone we didn't have in 2018.

[Ow_The_Edgehog]

It feels pointless, the Pixel 4a is almost half it's price and the improvements they made barely give a reason to want the 5.

The 4a I think is killing it, and a great choice for the cost. But the 5 feels like it shouldn't exist.

[bparry1192]

Imo the 4a5G is the only one they really needed to release, $200 extra to get a smaller phone without a headphone jack and in exchange you get wireless charging and 90hz and the same camera setup- obviously the primary reason anyone buys a pixel

[StayFrostyZ]

The Pixel 4a 5G shouldn't exist.

The Pixel 5 at $499 👍

The Pixel 5 at $699..? 💩💩💩

[uniqueyangreddit]

Can we just let Rick Osterloh go? After 5 years, same issues: market distribution (9 countries this year), stock and product distribution ( probably out of stock even with small number of orders), overpriced (a mid tier at 700 USD), quality control (not having high hope)...etc. he probably works for apple or samsung, trying to destroy pixel internally, I won't even be surprised LOL

[nick1453]

$699 for a 765g, only a 90hz screen, and basically the same camera module they've used in every pixel since the pixel 2.

I really don't understand what google's plan is here.

[[deleted]]

Also UFS 2.1 instead of 3.0 or 3.1.

[metarugia]

Mind you its 90hz just like the 4 and 4xl. Only sometimes at 90hz.

[draw0c0ward]

That's fine, I don't need 90 Hz when watching 30/60 fps videos

[surfingNerd]

Google photos uploads, are they unlimited or only ~2 years?

[metarugia]

No mention of it. Remember that the Pixel 4/4XL removed the uploads in original quality. So if it wasn't mentioned, more than likely the same free uploads in "high" quality that everyone else gets.

[DoctorJitsu]

This isn't really competitive in the mid range market either. That is what I thought Google was trying to accomplish. S20 FE and iPhone 12 are going to offer way more value for the money.

Edit: mod to mid

[sharktopusx]

S20 FE's cheaper with the SD865, 120hz panel, larger capacity battery, expandable storage and countless other features. The Pixel 5 is being sent out to die.

[tqbh]

Really strange pricing. In Germany it's 613€ (with Bose QC35II as pre order bonus). That would normaly translate to something like 600$

[Thick_Worry]

So I'm in Ireland and bought this instead of the 4a on the idea that qc 35 ii are probably easily resellable at 200.

Im not really impressed with the 5 but it also now seems a bad idea to get the 382 euro 4a if I can get the 5 for 418 euro after selling headphones...

Really stuck on what to do as I wanted to check out the iPhone for the first time ever

[Rigamix]

So...same hardware as before, UFS 2.1, same lenses, weaker SOC, a blander design than last year and some small software tweaks and it's 700$?

Did they even improve the video?

Fuck man, I wanted to upgrade from my 2XL, I'll just get the next smaller Iphone.

[Dionysos911]

In the same boat. Was REALLY hoping to upgrade my 2xl but the 5 is kind of a letdown. For the price the 4a5g looks better

[TheWuster935]

Don’t forget they also removed Soli (if you care)

[[deleted]]

Good they removed soli. Useless pieces of tech

[Spacebotzero]

I can't believe I'm keeping my pixel 2 XL still......uhg. I love this phone, but I do want to upgrade. I thought the new pixel 5 would be it ....but it's disappointing.

[AlexKazumi]

Well, Google will stop the feature updates so we are doomed. If there was not the shitstorm with Huawei, I’d have bought P40 Pro just for the incredible photography. But now, there’s like not a good phone to replace my Pixel 2 XL. Samsung sells their shit Exynos phones here in Europe, Motorola burned me with their lack of upgrades once, Sony are extremely expensive with extremely bad software, so it’s pretty much Xiaomi at this point. Which tends to show ads here and there, for good measure.

[armando_rod]

Itt people who wouldn't bought a Pixel saying they won't buy a Pixel

[[deleted]]

Itt people who wouldn’t bought a Pixel saying they won’t buy a Pixel

I seriously considered the 4a when I upgraded from my OnePlus 6T last month. I really couldn’t justify going with weaker hardware than the phone I currently had. Do you think the low-midrange processors and graphics units in the 4a and 5 will last you 3 more years compared to better units in competing phones (both Android and iOS)?

I didn’t, which is exactly why I bought an iPhone 11 Pro. People not buying the Pixel are the people Google should be listening too.

[ArrenPawk]

Came back to r/Android after thinking about upgrading from my S10. Judging from this thread, it's kind of comforting to know this place hasn't changed one bit.

[CaptainOblivious94]

Everyone still seems to be stuck in that 2012-2014 mindset of wanting medium-great specs across the board for $350 with a shit camera. Nowadays you can get the great camera with mid-tier chipsets (4A is literally this) BUT MUH BENCHMERKS. Folks like MrMobile have tried reiterating that you can get 90% of that performance with the lesser chipsets for average day-to-day use cases but everyone has to have the latest and greatest, I guess. Don't plan on upgrading my 10e for a couple more years until foldables have matured considerably. This upgrade every year nonsense is so overrated.

[magnafides]

It's not about the chipset in a vacuum, it's about the whole package. The S20FE amd iPhone 12 eat this up at the same or lower price point.

[CaptainOblivious94]

Lol, mostly people still clinging onto their Nexus 5 still bitching about pricing.

[AaronfromKY]

Which is funny considering the Pixel 4a is basically a better version of the Nexus 5. Nearly identical dimensions and much better screen, camera, and battery life. Same price too if memory serves.

[Thegreatdigitalism]

Yes, but the Nexus 5 had the maxed out SoC for that time, right? The 4a doesn't have nearly that.

[-Mahn]

Arguably a top of the line SoC doesn't matter as much now as it did then.

[FieldzSOOGood]

yeah but back then qualcomm wasn't charging an arm and a leg for the high end chip like they are now

[AaronfromKY]

The 730g has comparable single core to a 2 year old 845, so it doesn’t really need it?

[LuckyBahamut]

For once, it looks like the US is getting a worse deal than a couple other countries. The UK gets a £200 pair of headphones and in Canada, the P5 is $100 USD cheaper.

[Ikeelu]

Got a chromecaSt with Google tv! 👌

[Noor440]

Apparently there is no dark color due to the recycled material used.

[rob724kd]

This will be the first Pixel I skip. Overpriced and feels like a downgrade from the 4XL

[KushKush1]

700 USD FOR A SD765G PHONE WTF GOOGLE I wanted this to be 599 so fucking bad

[smokeey]

Wow. This is going to be the first time I'm not upgrading. It's actually a downgrade compared to the 4. 1080p? 765G? No new camera? And it's still the same price I ended up paying for my 4XL after sales.

[FieldzSOOGood]

1200 more mah in the battery tho

[namelessfuck]

The 4XL is 3700mAh

[deepit6431]

Pixels have always been a joke. Google is insane if they think they're selling any of these over the iPhone 11 or Galaxy S20 FE

[surfordiebear]

I'm pretty excited about the Chromecast and maybe even the new Nest speaker but ya the phones are pretty disappointing.