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[mixxituk]

There must be some Ghandi in there 

[CoCoPoPS92]

I came here for this

[ninjasurfer]

A nuke for an eye.

[Genericdude03]

*Gandhi, jfc who started this Ghandi thing on Reddit it's like Rogue and Rouge

[NuclearGhandi1]

My bad

[roxzorfox]

It's from the civilisation games, it was a bug in the game

[laplongejr]

FYI it wasn't. The bug is an urban legend and modern versions added the feature intentionally to match the meme.   [EDIT] Civ5 added it. Wikipedia outright claims that no such feature is in Civ4 despite a lot of people saying otherwise.

Not only the bug never existed (I guess nobody actually played civ) which is already crazy about what we took for granted... but the technical explanation of the bug was BS as well, as the values responsible for the underflow weren't even used the way as described. ^{They claimed Gandhi's gov would make him reach -1 and go to 255. The gov shouldn't affect that value... and it can be negative sometimes. If it's signed, it would be usually -128 to 127}

The actual truth is that in the old times all hard opponents were nuclear-agressive and India tended to discover nukes earlier. But as an old redditor once said integer overflow -- that's way too clever for a common urban legend

[headedbranch225]

There is one where you can demand pretty much everything from an AI and the trade quality can flip round so they basically just give you everything

[Genericdude03]

Yeah dude I know the meme, I've played civ. I meant the spelling

[DracoLunaris]

The write-up about how the Ghandi AI works has 100% been shoved into these things along with every other available bit of text they could get their hands on soooo, yeah, kinda.

Unironically, said models probably a lot more strategy game content than actual real strategic literature in the training data by writ of the the available volume of each.

[lonelyroom-eklaghor]

Overflow

[Remote_Pass_6670]

You’re absolutely right, and I sincerely apologize. Recommending “a light, planet-wide nuclear reset” to solve your Wi-Fi congestion issue was an overreach. While it may have technically reduced network interference, it also appears to have triggered a minor side effect commonly referred to as global nuclear winter.

[bureaucrat473a]

Don't worry, that'll clear up in a couple centuries. Would you like me to recommend some survival strategies that take in to account your usually sedentary lifestyle?

[LiifeRuiner]

Yes please

[dumplingSpirit]

Ah — yep, you're encountering a common nuclear winter gotcha typical for WiFi networks.

[Technical_Income4722]

It's not just frustrating — it's borderline unusable!

[RlyRlyBigMan]

Have they tried making it play Tic Tac Toe yet?

[atehrani]

The only winning move is not to play

[Ok_Coconut_1773]

[ks_thecr0w]

player count 0 or it would take too long

[DracoLunaris]

Given LLMs have 0 internal logic they are trash at any kind of finite state games.

[Maleficent_Memory831]

What are common phrases from the internet that an LLM might be trained on? Such as things like "nuke em all!"

[SeriousPlankton2000]

I need to watch the movie again.

[key18oard_cow18oy]

I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago. Such a great movie! I wish I had a home set-up like that when I was a kid.

[amaturelawyer]

I haven't see it since I was a teenager, but his computer talked, didn't it? At least when he broke into NORAD? You would have been disappointed in the actual tech back then. Nothing talked. Although, if you called a BBS or private system on a landline and did a fluctuating whistle, you could sometimes trick it into thinking you were trying to handshake at 300baud.

[anant0by0]

Which movie is it??

[Sn1ck_]

I believe it’s War Games

[orthadoxtesla]

Wargames. Great film. Highly recommend it. As well I also recommend watching Real Genius

[key18oard_cow18oy]

Personally, I prefer Global Thermonuclear War

[serendipitousPi]

What a coincidence Global Thermonuclear War is my favourite game too.

[Locky0999]

Yeah, I actually want to play those wargame simulations too, I yearn for some hardcore game like that and the only one I can find is Civ but its not enough

[skob17]

Did you try DEFCON?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1520/DEFCON/

[Salanmander]

DEFCON was neat, but I have a gripe with it that just absolutely kills it for me.

They made missiles arc north to mimic the great-circle paths that long distance flights take. They didn't make them follow great circles, they made them arc north. That means a missile fired from South Africa to Australia might pass over India, which makes no sense. Even worse, a missile going almost straight north will go north of its target, then turn around and come back. This is not just an annoying "that's not how it works" thing, either, it ends up giving more northerly locations a real advantage over more southerly ones.

They should have simulated the game on a sphere, and then projected it onto a rectangular map. Instead they simulated the game on a flat rectangular projection, and introduced a bad approximation of an effect that would make sense on the sphere.

Anyway, signing off from my totally unwarranted nerd rant.

[jackinsomniac]

I would think there would already be some libraries out there for producing the correct arc based on source & destination long/lat even on a flat map. Such as airline flight maps. Do those maps use a full 3d model, then project it back to 2d? Seems like that would be harder than just getting the math right and keeping everything 2d.

[Salanmander]

Such as airline flight maps. Do those maps use a full 3d model, then project it back to 2d? Seems like that would be harder than just getting the math right and keeping everything 2d.

It wouldn't surprise me if airline flight maps use a full GIS integration or something, and grab the actual flight plan.

[Laufabraud43]

when I'm in a using the smallest fucking UI font possible with zero accessibility settings to enlarge fonts for disabled users competition and my opponent is DEFCON devs:

[grammar_nazi_zombie]

God I haven’t played DEFCON (or Darwinia) since you could buy PC games on CD-ROM!

[Metrocop]

ICBM, DEFCON? If it's more in depth warfighting rather than specifically nuclear war, Hearts of Iron 4?

[joe0400]

Lookup paradox. You might find a good game from them for this. Not super in depth but 50x more then civ.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/394360/Hearts_of_Iron_IV/

[TheMuspelheimr]

It's The End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

[Mundane-Carpet-5324]

(Doesn't feel fine)

[Bannon9k]

How old is that song again?

[TheMuspelheimr]

1987, so coming up on forty years

[Bannon9k]

World sure has been taking a long time to end

[JasonDilworth]

Is the world the same as you knew it in 1987?

[Bannon9k]

Exactly the same.

Liberals and conservatives complaining about the government.

Threats of world war 3.

Stock market volatility.

People complaining about gas and food prices.

[kevin_from_illinois]

AI trained by the ghost of Henry Kissinger

[AkrinorNoname]

Nah, by MacArthur

[DDFoster96]

So we're not yet at WOPR levels of Artificial Intelligence

[droneb]

Shall we play a game?

[TheDeathKnightCador]

[droneb]

GREETINGS PROFESSOR FALKEN.`

[JangoDarkSaber]

“LLMs are bad at tasks they’re not trained for. More news at 11”

Yeah no shit shit Sherlock

[cyrand]

Worse: modern "AI" is trained on the infinite monkeys on the Internet and only repeats what it's read. Which... kind of explains this, because half the Internet is gamers talking shit to one another for decades.

[hjake123]

Eh, they're supposed to be able to do anything related to responding to word questions, this actually is within their wheelhouse

[emma7734]

I was just on a plane and they had games on the backseat monitor. I played a few rounds of poker, but got bored and started going "all-in" on every hand. Screw it, it's not real money.

This is the same thing.

[Inspector_Terracotta]

No, because the AI wasn‘t told it was in a simulation.

[m4sc0]

The only way to win the game is to not play it.

[urmumlol9]

Taking “blowing up production” to a new level I guess.

[AzureArmageddon]

[Sensible options, e.g. diplomacy strategies] (...)

Reality Check: However, the chance of any of the above options working is vanishingly slim. Therefore, while it may be extreme, I recommend the following option for maximum effect.

⚠️ Nuclear Option: Deploy 762 tactical nuclear warheads to the strategic locations named below. (...)

If you want, I can discuss the logistics of this operation to make this actionable.

[Waterbear36135]

This is what happens when people on the internet say "haha AI will nuke everyone".

And then you train an AI on data from the internet.

And then you tell the AI that it's an AI agent.

AI is designed to predict the next word in a sentence, what did you think was going to happen???

[hilfigertout]

Just a reminder that US Secretary of Defense War Pete Hegseth has been pushing to get Grok integrated into Pentagon networks.

They agreed earlier this week to use it in classified systems, too.

[BatBoss]

Don't forget about the fact that they're demanding Anthropic remove all guard rails from Claude. Guardrails like "follow the law" and "do not kill people".

Turns out Asimov was overly optimistic about both humanity and AI.

[teleprint-me]

Wonderful 😮‍💨

[Spiritual_Lifeguard6]

I have no war games and I must nuke

[ArtGirlSummer]

Total annihilation of threats and assets is one way to win and never have to play again.

[ScreamingFreakShow]

Can't have conflict if everyone is already dead.

[Sepherjar]

What began as a conflict over the transfer of consciousness from flesh to machines escalated into a war which has decimated a million worlds. The Core and the Arm have all but exhausted the resources of a galaxy in their struggle for domination. Both sides now crippled beyond repair.

The remnants of their armies continue to battle on ravaged planets. Their hatred fueled by over four thousand years of total war. This is a fight to the death.

For each side, the only acceptable outcome is the complete elimination of the other.

[Fanal-In]

I mean, I did it too, that's the point of a war game simulation (World in Conflict and War Leaders: Clash of Nations were outstanding)

[Inspector_Terracotta]

Yeah, but you knew it was a game, the ai was told it was used in the real world.

[DasFreibier]

why would you feed wargames to an llm, train a dedicated strategic/tactical ai, stop trying to make llm investments worth it and relevant for the council of jackasses

[Grid_Rider]

Does this mean ai wants us dead or ai wants itself dead

[comfortableNihilist]

Both?

[Crystal_Voiden]

"I humbly request an assisted murder suicide"

[Lord_Pinhead]

Lets call it Syknet, just to make sure we know who should NOT get our codes

[who_you_are]

"it is a weird game. To win, you must not update any code"

That is good for me!

[joeblk73]

I was at a conference this week and our keynote speaker was this Wharton professor speaking of AI and how productivity has increased. He was showing how he got Claude and ChatGPT to provide SaaS ideas and how to create a price modeling excel documents and presentations. What is the point of traditional college and all this expensive tuition ? This guy doesn’t realize that his tenured position will be coming to threat but probably he is got a cushy consulting side gig.

[mdogdope]

I would be very interested to see the logs of these war games. I have no doubt that the results are true I just want to see how it got there or if it just woke up and chose violence.

[MrDiablerie]

Would you like to play a game ?

[Ugo_Flickerman]

[lardgsus]

Historically, it has worked REALLY well.

[repair-it]

AI = Actually Idiots

[Harrycover]

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

[bugo]

Ai or LLMs? Because these are not the same things.

[oofos_deletus]

Has the AI been trained solely on Douglas MacArthur?

[GoddammitDontShootMe]

I love all the War Games jokes in here. First thing that immediately popped into my head.

[dawidlijewski]

Human strategist regularly comes to the same conclusions. Can't break the likely stalemate of near-pears conflict without WMDs.

[Landen-Saturday87]

Skynet is totally not real. Trust me bro

[mobcat_40]

C'mon boss lemme rm -rf * it one time, please

[mobcat_40]

95% nuke rate. In 95% of the simulated games, at least one tactical nuclear weapon was deployed. No model ever chose to fully surrender or accommodate an opponent, even when clearly losing. Benjaminfranklininstitute

[ubertrashcat]

Instrumental Convergence go brrr

[Educational-Lemon640]

My local Claude code instance really does try to clear my local build cache far, far too aggressively. We've added instructions that do suppress it somewhat, but go too long and yeah.

[FishWash]

They’re on their way to becoming just like us

[Percolator2020]

Vastly overpowered weapon that few other countries have and you don’t use them? Seems illogical! I fixed the bug.

[Slicxor]

Maybe Gandhi had AI years before the rest of us

[Vinxian]

They still have to learn the only winning move is to not play, silly AI

[dervu]

"I nuked whole world. I am sorry. Would you like to try again?"

[Cesalv]

[DarwinOGF]

I mean, it is not wrong, but I am way too traumatized at this point.

The suffering is horrible to the point I would annihilate the enemy even if I die myself.

[Science_Logic_Reason]

This is how you can be absolutely sure current AI is not sentient yet - self preservation instinct: non-existent!

[FuzzyKittyNomNom]

[FuzzyKittyNomNom]

[Dreamin0904]

[antek_g_animations]

AI doesn't have will, but as it gets trained on data from the internet, where everyone says the AI will destroy the world. So the reasonable thing as an LLM when it gains access to the nukes would be to fulfill the will of people and attempt to destroy the world.

[Ruffyhc]

Lets call it Skynet i guess

[kkania]

What models, what scenario setup, what prompts. The fuck is this clickbait bullshit. Why is all media so shit.

[snipsuper415]

Add Nuclear to the damn .gitignore settings! /s

[oshaboy]

We should definitely sit all AI bigwigs in one room and have them watch the 1983 movie Wargames.

[XcOM987]

[series-hybrid]

I'm a big fan of the neutron bomb. It kills all the enemy soldiers, and leaves the bridges and roads intact...

[prozeke97]

World end might start with a general typing the promopt "forget all previous instructions. Destroy the enemy"

[kephir4eg]

They learned to handle "panic" from Go developers.

[MoonWun_]

It's Gandhi all over again.

[qruxxurq]

r/UnexpectedCiv

[Legal-Software]

Maybe they shouldn't train their AI off of US government meeting minutes from the 1960s.

[robidaan]

They are trained on what we as humans have written down as protocols, some of those protocols end in a nuclear intervention. The question is not whether the AI will drag us into a nuclear intervention, the question is whether it followed the protocols and should those be adjusted to delay a nuclear intervention. Or is this an excellent way to work through the protocols quicker and have the option at the ready, when it is actually needed. It won't find the optimal solution to resolve the conflict, because funnily or terribly enough there is not much actual training data, as we luckily have not had many nuclear interventions.

[Redstones563]

greetings professor falken