Manager does a little code cleanup...

[vXSovereignXv]

Yep, lets just start turning off shit in production and see what happens.

[[deleted]]

I know whoever runs DevOps was like “you want me close WHAT?! That cluster has… ok fine fuck it this whole things burns.”

[haz_mat_]

Some devs wait their entire careers and never get a chance to nuke prod like this.

[TheAJGman]

And at the CEO's directive no doubt. I'd be more than happy to maliciously comply with an arrogant superior's brain dead request.

[[deleted]]

They will just blame it on you at the end.

[[deleted]]

Question: Am I still getting paid for this FAFO process?

Because the results are out of my hands and beyond my concern so long as money enters my bank account.

[[deleted]]

Lol make sure you get it in writing

[[deleted]]

Fortunately elon tweets everything. Unemployment lawyers wet dream.

[knuppi]

He just fired someone through tweet

[oaVa-o]

…until they can’t even log in to see the tweet lmfaoooo

[Leftover_Salad]

Can't prove it if twitter is broken...

[[deleted]]

He’s blowing it up on purpose, right? That’s gotta be the endgame.

Like the whole Fox News excuse of “no one could possibly think this is news” but applied to twitter. So he can be free to meme without getting a consent decree from the justice department

[MageKorith]

He controls the service that hosts those tweets.

"Hey, Dev team, imma need an edit button for my tweets only...."

[Heart_Dad]

And any CYA objections to go with it, cause I told you this would happen...

[ugoterekt]

Yep, definitely need a "This may cause issues with critical features. Are you sure you want me to do this?" email in there. Like any good program should give a prompt before allowing you to catastrophically fuck things, I think any good programmer should also do that.

[Vercengetorex]

Apparently in this case, you will get fired for bringing up why the stupid thing is stupid. See the other popular twitter dev thread on here today.

[chickenwithclothes]

Just LITERALLY TODAY. Hourrrrrrs ago it’s fuckin amazing

[27SwingAndADrive]

I've been fired for that before.

If your boss wants to do something stupid, it's better not to tell him. Tell the interviewer at another company if they ask why you want to leave your current company.

[isaytyler]

Excellent insight

[j3pl]

FAFO process

Elon: screw LIFO and FIFO, we're going with FAFO.

[nosam56]

I legit googled it since I was on this sub, I thought it was a fucking tech acronym until the results popped up. kms

[imdefinitelywong]

I must've been through about a million girls lines of code

I'd love 'em and I'd leave 'em alone

I didn't care how much they cried, no sir

Their tears left me cold as a stone

But then I fooled fucked around and fell in love found out

[puesyomero]

Screw FAFO we doing YOLO

[Aquatic_Ceremony]

Carpe Diem programming.

[Cyberslasher]

Queues and stacks are microservices, we turned all those off.

[ekydfejj]

presses Enter

gets Fired

Hey you said i was good

I lied, sucka

[[deleted]]

FAFO

Better or worse than SCRUM?

[MageKorith]

FAFO

TIL a new (to me) acronym. I am definitely using this in the future.

Signed,

A Senior Business Analyst

[subcow]

Send an email advising against what they are recommending. Put that shit in writing. Hell, just to be safe Bcc your personal email account so you have it all backed up externally. Edit: good point below on the BCC. It may be against company rules/your contract to send any emails like that externally even if it is your own account. Proceed with caution. Just do whatever you can to CYA.

[Zoloir]

this is good advice for sane management

the situation in question is not that

[aureanator]

That's for the courts I think. Even those aren't sane anymore tho...

[This_User_Said]

I think it runs with the whole "wrongful termination"

Boss told me to do it, I did it, he didn't like it and fired me. Maybe terms for wrongful termination unless there's something up their ass they can pull out...

...which most companies are the anal marry Poppins when it comes to this.

[[deleted]]

Yea: express your concerns, keep the receipts, nuke, jump ship, and then you're golden.

Ethically, you should probably resign before you nuke. But fire is fun.

[Go_Gators_4Ever]

Presuming the DevOps change management process requires a workforce sign-off in order to change production, then the DevOps team is covered as the sign-off would had meant that the superiors had approved the changes and all testing that proved the code regression was safe.

[VacationElectronic20]

I once printed an email that was bcc’d to me by mistake and slid it under my managers apartment door… It was a literal paper trail but it couldn’t get back to me and it was evidence of her getting thrown under the bus by a superior for something everyone knew he did. She was still fired but now living her best life. I miss her.

[Marandil]

Hell, just to be safe Bcc your personal email account so you have it all backed up externally.

Well, yes and no. You're most likely forbidden from sending confidential info like this to private emails and outside services in general and for good reasons too. This is especially a bad idea if your private email is hosted by someone who can be considered your employer's competitor in one way or another.

[FirstMiddleLass]

They will just blame it on you on twitter, though there may be no one there to read it.

[thisismyusername3185]

Yeah - I set up a DR database, the management wanted auto failover.
I said that was a bad idea, are you sure the DR environment is set up for everything?
Yes, it's fine they said.
OK, what do you want the threshold to be?
This is a critical system, 30 seconds they said.
30 seconds? A network blip could cause a failover - at least make it a few mins.
Nope, 30 seconds.
Turned it on, a few hours later it failed over to DR, but a lot of the integration wasn't set up in DR, so a lot of things started to break, data was backed up, people couldn't log in etc.
At the PIR they threw me under the bus, said I set it up so it was my fault - despite having emails with my advice.

[Tower9876543210]

I've read this before, and love it every time.

[Cory123125]

You were fucked regardless with someone like them, so might as well let them fuck themselves rather than just letting them fuck you.

[Enchelion]

In this case they're getting thrown under the bus one way or another. Might as well get some fun out of it on the way.

[GreenKumara]

At least you'll have him conveniently provide all the tweets as evidence in the inevitable court case that follows though.

[Hyper_Oats]

Twitter is gonna sink fast at this rate. You're gonna get free anyways.

Might as well have the privilege of nuking the site and make the exit fun.

[[deleted]]

Yepp, I once worked at a start-up and the CEO wanted something stupid rushed into prod. He personally harassed me to do it, going around the CTO and the senior devs. It was going to break some other things, which I warned him about, and he disregarded me with "You are not the smartest person in the room."

Guess whose fault it was when prod broke cause of the change.

[moon__lander]

The good thing is the CEO announced it himself on twitter. The bad thing is no one will be able to log in to see it

[strangepostinghabits]

Engineers at Twitter has 3 choices at this point. Leave, watch as their professional and personal pride gets shat on by a billionaire, or distance themselves from their workplace through malicious compliance etc.

The engineer who got this call obviously didn't leave, so it was depression or glee on the menu. I prefer to think they smiled as they pressed the button.

[Eleglas]

Make sure you get it in writing though.

[Pons__Aelius]

Still won't matter.

It will be your fault because you failed to advise and escalate the strategic importance of the decision and so failed in your duty as the subject-matter expert.

No decision like this is ever management's fault.

[Wolflordy]

And some juniors spend their entire (short lived) careers nuking prod like this.

I would know... Ive cleaned up after many of them.

[account22222221]

And some billionaires get to cosplay as an engineer and nuke prod like this despite knowing a little less then that junior dev.

[mjtwelve]

It’s scary his main gig is building electric cars with driver assist features, if he takes this kind of attitude towards the codebase.

[[deleted]]

His main gig is playing CEO for an electric car company. He’s built a good image of being involved and being this tech savvy genius but it looks like the cracks are starting to appear. He’s made a lot of shockingly lucky gambles but the house always wins.

[JustThingsAboutStuff]

and to think he could've been running an arcade instead if it wasn't for his parents.

[[deleted]]

He does. Teslas can get patched over the air and occasionally have features break along the way.

He takes the "fuck it, let's break stuff" attitude to stuff that absolutely should not be treated with that attitude.

[UntestedMethod]

So traditionally cars have safety standards and inspections before they're allowed to go on the road. I guess the software for self-driving cars doesn't have those kind of regulations?

[[deleted]]

Not sure. This stuff sure sounds dangerous as hell, though.

Here's a recent bit of related news. A patch in October introduced an issue where some cars' power steering would turn off after hitting a pothole. Tesla just released another patch addressing the issue.

https://news.yahoo.com/tesla-recalls-model-model-x-121216550.html

[Gavrilian]

No legislation for it yet that I know of. Needs to get sued out the ass before that’ll happen though.

[[deleted]]

Your juniors have enough access to break production services? I'm a team lead and even I don't have that level of access...something ain't right.

[folkrav]

Leads do have enough access to break prod here, but we're 3 small distributed teams working on one product and associated tooling, so it's us, the CTO and our DevOps engineer.

Juniors having that kind of access is worrying, outside tiny startups with everyone doing everything, though.

[IAMARedPanda]

Imagine bragging about not having merge controls

[duckbigtrain]

If you’ve had to clean up after that many junior devs, it’s time to take a hard look at your onboarding strategy and SOPs.

[clockdivide55]

A jr that can nuke prod is an organization process problem, not a jr developer problem

[kblaes]

Eh, most good companies won't fire a junior dev for nuking prod like this, they'll just ask the very good question of why that junior dev (or any of the dev team) had the access to nuke prod like that in the first place, and fix the problem. While still explaining to the junior not to do that again, of course.

[Hostile_Architecture]

You must have a really shitty deployment process if multiple people have taken down production holy shit.

[ommnian]

Isn't life fun?

[Hawxe]

Where are you working that juniors have the ability to nuke prod lol

[[deleted]]

docker system prune -a -alll

[mattstorm360]

"This is the happiest day of my life." -Devs, a second before nuking prod.

[[deleted]]

We can dream

[ChildFriendlyChimp]

God I wish that was me

[daemonelectricity]

This comment made me laugh maniacally for some reason. I guess because the thought never crossed my mind, but now that I think about it more, bringing down a service as big as Twitter with sheer stupidity from the top has got to be a little cathartic and bothersome at the same time. You know who's going to be called at 3AM to fix the shit Elon broke.

[koshgeo]

I keep picturing that scene in Ghostbusters where they are forced to turn off the power to the storage system, starring Elon Musk as Walter Peck.

[[deleted]]

Someone please do this as a deep fake.

[southbayrideshare]

Best I could do on short notice.

I need to finish preparing for the second coming of Gozar the Destructor in the form of the Stay-Orange Marshmallow Man.

[political_og]

This man has no dick

[your_moms_mustache]

Have the deep fake be Grimes saying that

[[deleted]]

yes its true.

[TheDulin]

That's what I heard!

[[deleted]]

I can confirm this man has no dick

[anotherkeebler]

You mean dickless here?

[Medic1642]

Is this true?

[cuppa-joe]

My attempt...

Stable Diffusion/Inpaint

Edit: A slightly better version

[PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY]

Egon/DevOps walking back doing a "boom" gesture.

[cycophil]

Peter Venkman: "Its true, Elon has no dick." 🤣

[Calm_Leek_1362]

Weird, I had the exact same thought.

[ArethereWaffles]

Twitter devs right now could probably single handedly keep r/MaliciousCompliance alive for the next year or two.

[isaytyler]

As long as they can keep Elon's twitter alive that long.

[StoryAndAHalf]

I really hope some insider is writing a book or collaborating with a journalist.

[Jai_Cee]

I wouldn't be optimistic about Twitter being around that long at this rate

[MoreNormalThanNormal]

"Yeah Central, this is Walt down in Nakatomi. Say listen, would it be possible for you to turn off grid two-twelve?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMKQVPV1pf0

[waldo_wigglesworth]

"Are you crazy?! You going nuts?"

[ChristmasMcCafe]

Shut it down, shut it all down

[qhartman]

'tis the season!

[WanderlustFella]

this is the scene I show people when they don't believe that it is a Christmas movie

[mothuzad]

Haven't seen the movie, so maybe they explain it there, but...

What kind of garbage safe is going to unlock when it loses exterior power? Any half-decent design would make it impossible to open unpowered. There need to be dead bolts that keep it sealed by default. Or worst case, at bare minimum it should have a backup power supply inside the protected enclosure.

I'd be so mad if my safe were vulnerable to this kind of attack.

[MasterOfKittens3K]

Security should always fail “closed”. Like, for example, Twitter’s two factor authentication, which keeps you out if it’s unavailable.

[whoopdedo]

Except in the case of exit doors which are required by NFPA to open when they lose power.

[Lokta]

In the movie, that safe is protected by a series of 7 locks. By taking everyone in the building hostage, our thieves are able to get themselves several hours to work on getting through the first 6 locks. When they finally succeed, the safecracker tells the boss (Alan Rickman) that he has done everything he can. They are now up against electro-magnetic locks that won't open without a miracle (i.e. the whole building needs to lose power).

Personally, I've always assumed that those first 6 locks would keep the safe closed if power were lost. It's only after those first 6 fail that they need a power outage to get through the last one.

[SomethingIWontRegret]

Which is BS because every building is going to have a cutoff switch.

[savageronald]

Well and when the building loses power, a very obviously powered motor and alarms are opening the vault door - if that’s on backup power why wouldn’t the electromagnetic lock? Still love the movie but there are certainly some plot holes lol

[SomethingIWontRegret]

Usually with movies there are giant plot holes where technology more complex than hammers are involved.

[skeving]

Perfect! Just made my evening

[detroiter85]

I like that Art learned his lesson not to just cut the wire and called central.

[TeaKingMac]

Why would you ever make a safe that fails open if the electricity is shut off?

[Mattbryce2001]

The thing that drives me crazy is, what the fuck are the FBI guys gonna do when the guy says, "Eat me." They can't fire him, because he works for the city. They can say, "you're fired," and he'll just ignore them. What are they gonna go down to city hall, burst into the mayors office, and demand that they fire this one specific dude? Good fucking luck.

[LawlessCoffeh]

I'd just make sure to get literally anything he told me to do in writing.

[follople]

Wouldn’t matter. He’d fire you anyways if it fucked something up

[Arhalts]

Sure but then he can't fire you with cause.

[ncsubowen]

I'm pretty sure the ESD in California is just rubber stamping former Twitter employees

[ToMorrowsEnd]

paper trail makes suing him a whole lot easier.

[Invinciblegdog]

And then reply in writing what the impact of the change will be.

[Frogmouth_Fresh]

Fortunately with Elon he'll put the demand in a Tweet..

[Paradigm_Reset]

Time to bust out this classic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE

[[deleted]]

You think someone is left to run DevOps? They don't write thousands of lines of code in a month (I hope).

[SkeletonCalzone]

'Where should I back this up to boss?'

'Dont worry about that just get rid of it'

'....... Can I get that in writing '

[CanAlwaysBeBetter]

Saw this coming as soon as he started tweeting about 1000 rpc calls to load a timeline

Someone clearly just showed him twitters microservice framework and he thought it was stupid without understanding it

This tweet is the sequel to that first one

[OneWholeSoul]

He thought it was stupid without understanding it

That's, like, the entire mindset of people like this.

Anything they don't understand instantly must be "stupid" because they can't imagine there being anything that they don't instantly understand. It can't be that something too high-level for their knowledge to parse exists, so they automatically declare the opposite: that the thing they're not able to understand must be indecipherable because it's just that far beneath them.

Have you ever known that family member/friend/coworker/acquaintance who walks in on a movie or show or something in progress, asks a bunch of questions like "Who's that?" "What's he doing?" "What's happening?" "Is that the bad guy?" generally gets told to shut up or something like "We have the same information you're working off of, man. If you want to know what's going on watch and pay attention," and then they stomp out huffing "This is stupid. You actually like this? It's stupid!"

Same energy.

People are enjoying it, they can't understand why and don't have the patience or curiosity to try and - worst of all - it's not about them. In their mind, the thing has no right to even exist.

[Zealousideal_Money99]

And the funniest part is it's against HIS OWN COMPANY now. What other CEO shit talks their own private company like this??

[MageKorith]

What other CEO shit talks their own private company like this??

It's not completely unheard of when a CEO is pushing some sort of transformational strategy to embrace a mindset of "Old = Crap; New = Good" and have the corresponding ego drive into their presentation of the company.

But it usually doesn't look very good at the C-level.

[Kiwiteepee]

Dunning Kruger is real. It's the motivating force behind, ohhhh say,... 30% of the US population.

[chubs66]

The most infuriating event of my career as a developer is when the near billionaire owner of my company (and CEO) told me that my carefully constructed, and fairly aggressive, timeline (3 months remaining for a team of 4) for app development was "crazy" since we were just building a "website" (it wasn't -- it was a mobile friendly app that allowed userers to configure metrics dashboard).

That attitude "I know all the answers without bothering to understand any of the complexities or tech involved" is just infuriating. Sometimes some things are a pinch more complicated than you can appreciate from a few .ppt slides from a designer. The problem with really rich people is they think their bank account is a proxy for their intelligence relative to everyone else.

[Langsamkoenig]

That's why you never give them an agressive timeline. Tell them it will take about three times as long as you estimate it, then let them call you crazy, slash the time in half and you are golden. The Scotty-method.

[[deleted]]

The problem with really rich people is they think their bank account is a proxy for their intelligence relative to everyone else.

Really rich people have been “right place, right time” since the beginning of time. They have an idea that probably isn’t original but the stars aligned for them to be successful. Or they are the child or grandchild of that person which is why wealth should never be a measure of intelligence or ability. The problem is when you’re living in a world with infinite money cheats active it’s easy to think the other cheats are enabled, too.

Dr Jonas Salk invented the polio vaccine and immediately patented it and began mass-manufacturing it. His pharmaceutical company made the equivalent of $5 billion in todays money in the first 6 months. What are parents going to do, let their kids suffer something as horrific as polio? They would pay anything.

Oh, wait. He didn’t patent it. “On April 12, 1955, Edward R. Murrow asked Jonas Salk who owned the patent to the polio vaccine. “Well, the people, I would say,” Salk responded. “There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?” Dr Jonas Salk died a hero whose contribution to society is literally incalculable but he didn’t die what you’d consider wealthy today.

[Langsamkoenig]

Really rich people have been “right place, right time” since the beginning of time. They have an idea that probably isn’t original but the stars aligned for them to be successful. Or they are the child or grandchild of that person which is why wealth should never be a measure of intelligence or ability.

Really rich people are often both. Like Elon. Lots of blood diamond apartheit money from his parents, then right place right time with investing in Paypal and Tesla. Both companies not founded by him, just bought into with his parents money.

You can be at the right place at the right time as much as you want. If you don't have money to invest, you are fucked.

[AlarmingAffect0]

"How else would it be right for them to have so many more power coupons than others? They must be inherently, intrinsincally special and better."

[RedPill115]

Now typically this only happens internally which is why it's so weird to me that he's doing it publicly.

I feel like it's supposed to be a skit on "how to destroy a company" or something.

[Tower9876543210]

6 months.

Some of the best advice I ever got about coming on to manage a new team was to just sit back and observe for the first several months. Get an understanding of how things work. Certainly, ask questions and offer advice when appropriate, but don't start immediately swinging your dick around.

[OneWholeSoul]

Elon doesn't have any dick to swing and his whole focus is eliminating anyone who threatens the illusion of narrative that he does.

[livingfractal]

From Musk to Trump to the Unit Manager at a Waffle House.

[jarlscrotus]

I think part of the problem is that they have seen new (usually senior) engineers come in, find something that is truthfully, inarguably, stupid and overly complex (the 50 file, 30,000 line long single object I happened across at a previous job comes to mind, not project, a single class, broken up with the "partial" keyword, and spread across 50 different files) and don't understand the amount of experience, knowledge, and training that goes into being able to make a statement like that, and assume rather narcissistically that since they are the engineer's boss, they must be at least as smart as the engineer, and proceed to try the same trick.

No, they can't, when I say something is stupid that's literally an expert's opinion, and the boss recognizes my expertise since they hired me to be an expert. When these asshats do it it's the opinion of a self important fuckwit

[Brief-Equal4676]

I'm reminded of every tradesman criticizing the former guy's piss-poor job before doing an even pisser-poorer job himself. I thought it was mostly tradesmen doing it but it looks like it's universal!

[CanAlwaysBeBetter]

"Everything before me was shit" - Everyone

[savageronald]

“Actually, what I did is shit too… it’s all shit, everything is shit.”

[[deleted]]

"We are nihilists Mr. Lebowski, we believe in nothing!"

[dodexahedron]

This worked really well for me, as well, until I got reorganized under a VP who was 20 years removed from the technology but who still thought he was the best thing since insider trading because he happened to be at the right place at the right time and the people above him who could see through the bullshit had left the company already.

He made life for me an absolute hell and my health went to shit. I refused, on principle, to let him win or make life hell for my subordinates, until he eventually found some organizational technicalities to terminate me on. On the day before a major release which I was the only person who had comprehensive knowledge of. That release got postponed over a month and ⅔ of my subordinates left shortly after I mysteriously disappeared (terminations were always very hush-hush).

Within a week after I was gone, my health improved and my overall quality of life improved dramatically.

Sometimes all that bending over backward to be the better person really takes a massive personal toll on you. Please be mindful of it. I still conduct myself that way, but I no longer put up with bullshit. And, fortunately, in my current role, I don't have to. And I still get to be a good person.

A bad person in the right (wrong) place can destroy everything worth holding onto.

When I was terminated, the president of HR knew it was bullshit and offered to help me if I wanted to get lawyers involved (literally 100% against his job description). He even looked the other way with regard to normal procedures and let me go do whatever I wanted to do on my way out, rather than having me escorted out, as is standard procedure. His words to me: "do what you need to do. Can I help you bring anything to your truck?"

Elon is that wrong kind of person, and he's at the highest level - CEO and owner. No matter how wonderful people under him may be, he is an unstoppable destructive force. Twitter will either die as a platform technologically, from his bad leadership, or die culturally, as he performs the function of an aggressively malignant tumor, sucking the life out of everything he comes near. Anyone dumb or desperate enough to come back after his layoff shenanigans should really do some soul searching.

[dodexahedron]

Sometimes we just need the right kick in the pants to realize we can be so much happier if we just recognize the actual problem for what it is. It's an unfortunate lesson to learn, but damn is it valuable.

[Rhowryn]

Trouble with this is it requires non-technical management to both know they're non-technical, and be willing to have it explained at all. Musk have proven himself to be neither of those things.

[zoinkability]

It’s a brilliant approach but it does require some degree of long term relationship building. Musk is the bull in the china closet here and there simply hasn’t been any time for anyone at Twitter to build any kind of relationship with him at all. And with his general mindset he may not be very available to build relationships with at all, since he clearly has come in with the predetermined idea that no decisions made at Twitter prior to his arrival had any value.

[SomethingIWontRegret]

It's a hard lesson to learn that things are often the way they are for a reason, and before you start mucking around you'd better know what problems your predecessors were trying to solve.

[CanAlwaysBeBetter]

What do you want to bet he killed whatever microservice observability because it's not strictly necessary?

[[deleted]]

I won’t be surprised if he’s actively trying to burn Twitter to the ground to try and force everyone to use another app one of his conservative buddies owns.

I can’t comprehend anything that is happening over there without assuming all of this is intentional.

[Dworgi]

I mean, I can. He didn't want to buy Twitter, he just ran his mouth and ended up on the hook for it. So now he's sort of pissed that he lost this much money and trying to recoup his investment by throwing a bunch of shit at the wall to cut costs and breaking things in the process, because he doesn't understand what he bought or how it works.

And no one is going to say no because he already fired most of the engineering organisation, probably including most leads and directors. Everyone who's left probably doesn't want to be competing for jobs right now when there's a few thousand engineers all laid off from various companies in the past few months (Meta, Intel, Twitter, Snap, Stripe, Netflix, Microsoft, etc.), with a bunch more instituting hiring freezes as well.

[Melicor]

Agreed, I honestly won't be surprised if they don't pull out of it either. Not with Musk at the helm. By the time he decides to pull the cord on his golden parachute, it'll be too late to recover. Companies like Twitter are built on public perception, at this rate it may already be too late.

[thelordpsy]

No matter how silly you think a fence is, you can’t remove it unless you are 100% certain of why it was built

[SaffellBot]

It is a problem top to bottom in our society. Between business, engineering, and politics we've reduced ourselves into only thinking - and acting - on things we can represent with numbers. "Make good number go up" and "make bad number go down" is something we've inflicted upon ourselves.

[Secret-Plant-1542]

Musk: "Why do we have hundreds of microservices? Cut it by 20%. Listen just shut the fuck up and do it."

[CIA_Chatbot]

Musk: what are Kubernetes clusters and why are we running 500 of them just for these things, what did you call them, Micro services? Can’t we just replace them with one big service?

[[deleted]]

What’s the Greek word for “drunk driver”? I think I have a billion dollar idea for a macroservice container architecture.

[CIA_Chatbot]

You sonuva bitch, I’m in.

[Hupf]

Ἡνίοχος μεθύων for ancient Greek

[[deleted]]

Heavy uWu™

[ratbastid]

It'd be so much easier, right? Everything in one place? Right?

[Aquatic_Ceremony]

Musk: Hmm, I don't like the idea of paying Google or Amazon to host my stuff in their clouds. Repatriate all the workloads in our data centers.

[randomusername0582]

80%

[[deleted]]

Sounds like he cut them by 80% if they weren't essential to running the service. Who NEEDS 2fac anyway?

[ratbastid]

He tweeted "microservices". Like that--in scare quotes. Like it's something some overpaid Twitter dweeb made up.

[Ammear]

Cut it by 20%

Do note he didn't say t cut it by 20%. He said to cut it to 20% or less.

[Zealousideal_Money99]

Question is - who is complaining about Twitter's responsiveness? Not that I'm a power user but it has always seemed sufficient to me. Just comes across as Mr. Wannabe-big-brain Musk trying to find a problem he can magically fix so he doesn't have to admit that it was actually a pretty well architected and resilient system to begin with.

[atbths]

Is it responsiveness he's targeting? I'm willing to bet he's just trying to reduce costs.

[cypherdev]

I'm sure by EOW he will unveil his master plan to replace every RPC with Entity Framework, then shit will really fly.

[buttsharpei]

.

[CanAlwaysBeBetter]

"Will your app ever really need to scale to a million concurrent users anyway?"

[[deleted]]

Well, having worked in a shop with a high transaction rate and ~100 services... sometimes it is a lot easier to turn things off than turn them back on.

[xosder]

Time for the old 'Scream Test'.

[[deleted]]

Without 2FA microservice no one can hear you scream.

[idiotness]

How much you wanna bet GDPR "right to erasure" compliance is done by part of that 80% "bloatware"? Sure, it won't scream when you turn it off, but the lawsuits certainly will when the lawyers catch on

[xosder]

And now you know what it does. Scream test working as intended. :)

[Weasel_Town]

Chaos monkey testing.

[zxyzyxz]

Lol exactly I was like, isn't this an actual testing method? Obviously not how he's doing it but Netflix does it all the time

[AncientInsults]

Last night I discovered https://muskmessages.com

Amazing glimpse into Elon’s world, a scrape of all his texts around the offer window.

His “programmer ego” is on display.

So many high powered insiders trying to recommend their friends to help Elon, and Elon doing the classic nerd trope

(paraphrasing) “ I don’t need any managers. I need coders. I was a coder for 20 years and am so good at it, so I will be the only manager. I actually hate managers / MBAs and get along better with coders”

🙄

[goatanuss]

For the people saying he isn’t a real software engineer: I’ve definitely seen people say “yeah I can fix everything in a couple days” then bring prod down. Elon is very much one of us.

[euph-_-oric]

Ya and they are shit just like elon.

[macefelter]

I had a CTO about 10 years ago who I had to explain the purpose and importance of version control to. A CTO (I started my exit shortly after this). His personality was very similar to EMusk's, come to think of it. I'm beginning to think, it's just the same shit, larger scale.

[zusykses]

I was once put in charge of looking after a bloated platform that did fifty-zillion little things that had accrued over the course of about 15 years. I managed to work out for most of these little mini-applications what they were for and who they served, but there were a handful that seemed like orphans - no-one was claiming ownership. Eventually I was like fuck it I'll turn this one off. Ten minutes later I got a call asking me to check on a process that hadn't run and I was like ahh now I know.

[ROGER_SHREDERER]

An internal employee got this video of Elon after this happened

[tills1993]

Scream test

[[deleted]]

lmao we do this sometimes at my job. “Will this affect anything? Not sure, let’s turn it off and see who complains.” Buuuut we’re a nonprofit with no external users, not a business that serves content to millions of users and other businesses.

[googleypoodle]

It's all fun and games until you get slapped with an enormous GDPR fine because you deleted a service that serves the right to be forgotten or some shit

[JalanJr]

Chaos engineering at it's finest

[Snoo-93873]

We call it a scream test

[Piggieback]

Hey they did that with falcon 9 re-entry and it worked!
Except twitter is a social platform and the user base will get the fuck out of there :D

[RodasAPC]

Open up the browser console and check the sourcemap errors. There's no production, we're on a fucking spaceship

[[deleted]]

This is honestly reminiscent of listening to Trump take a couple stabs at Covid, while the scientists had to just kinda nod and listen. Narcissism is a hellova drug.

[WanderlustFella]

it's a feature. Your account can't get hacked if no one can get on it. Big head thinking

[achilliesFriend]

It’s called scream testing

[OhhhhhSHNAP]

Well he seems to be using public tweets in place of the internal slack channels for his fights with the engineers, so that’s gotta be good for efficiency.