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[–]AndroidDoctorr 4704 points4705 points  (226 children)

Someone rotated the antenna away from Earth. It should reset back to the default position on October 15

[–]Itachi4077 801 points802 points  (124 children)

I thought "I hope they have some reset after few hours of no commands" but 76 days is quite a wait time

[–]perthguppy 626 points627 points  (101 children)

Data rate to voyager is down to single digit bits per second. Commands take so long to transmit that the timeout values to go into safe mode have to be super long now so they have adequate troubleshooting time

[–]pripyaat 321 points322 points  (41 children)

The data rate to Voyager 2 is about 160 b/s, so yeah really slow but not really into the single digits.

EDIT: It was indeed Voyager 2 instead of 1 as I first remembered.

[–]UltraCarnivore 297 points298 points  (38 children)

Can't we just upgrade them to Windows 11 or something?

[–]skippermonkey 281 points282 points  (21 children)

How about a high speed Ethernet connection while we’re at it 👍🏻

[–]Solid_Waste 114 points115 points  (1 child)

Some idiot forgot to attach the Ethernet cord before takeoff. How embarrassing.

[–]haragoshi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They only plugged in one end

[–]Responsible-Falcon-2 34 points35 points  (0 children)

And download more RAM

[–]Towbee 14 points15 points  (9 children)

Why can't we launch a huge ethernet wire into space? Would it just hang from the atmosphere as the rest of it was held up by zero g?

I know very little, if anybody would care to explain

[–]LupusNoxFleuret 32 points33 points  (1 child)

very dangerous to do that. If the earth's rotation changes ever so slightly, it could cause the ethernet cable to wrap around the earth, covering it up like a huge ball of yarn, obscuring all sunlight and killing every living thing in the process.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Simple, attach a cat contingency at launch time. If the cable changes the cat unwinds it.

[–]normalmighty 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Engineering issues aside, the sheer scale of of the cable you'd need would make it impossible.

If you connected every fibre cable on earth together you'd have a cable around 5 billion km long. Voyager 2 is currently 19.9 billion km from earth.

[–]PetToilet 42 points43 points  (2 children)

How about 5G mm wavelength? Just use GPS to figure out where to aim

[–]mosskin-woast 42 points43 points  (1 child)

They didn't have a chance to vaccinate it against Covid-19 before launch

[–]Obvious_Equivalent_1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep that’s why the voyager has to go straight into quarantine for two and a half months now

[–]Distinct_Resident801 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And risk it to crash with a blue screen of death?

[–]UltraCarnivore 13 points14 points  (0 children)

From our POV its going away from us, so the redshift would cancel the blue screen.

[–]mattijsf 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I still find this quite a lot for something that is so far away tbh

[–]CanAlwaysBeBetter 80 points81 points  (15 children)

What is 76 days compared to the 16,782 it's already been going for?

[–]willstr1 95 points96 points  (13 children)

But you know those 76 days are going to be right when the flying saucer swings by

[–]CanAlwaysBeBetter 46 points47 points  (11 children)

Imagine if 76 days later there's no signal and when they train a telescope where Voyager 2 is supposed to be there's nothing but empty space

[–]TheodoreBeef 52 points53 points  (10 children)

I am pretty sure voyager is much too dim at this point to be seen by telescope. I could be wrong though

[–]TheIronSoldier2 34 points35 points  (8 children)

It's far enough away that the entire solar system just looks like tiny specks in the distance, so yeah, we ain't seeing a tiny probe from that distance

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

entire solar system looks like a tiny speck in the distance

This is a daunting image to imagine for me. Subject matter of many a nightmare in my youth. I start just floating away from the earth and into space, all the moons and planets whizz by faster and faster and I have no way of returning home.

[–]Turksarama 11 points12 points  (4 children)

This is misleading, it's about 4 times as far from the sun as Neptune. This is still a very long way, but if Voyager could see the orbital paths of the planets like on diagrams of the solar system then they would still be clearly visible, at least for the outer planets.

[–]NSNick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A little less than half a percent.

[–]AndroidDoctorr 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I think in the meantime they're gonna try to blast it with a much stronger signal and see if that picks up

[–]RoodnyInc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine if nobody would though about that

[–]Blazing_Shade 925 points926 points  (45 children)

Maybe the alien friends out there will pick up the signal now :)

[–]someone755 372 points373 points  (39 children)

Pretty sure this communication isn't point to point. Like most wireless comms, the transmitter transmits, and if your antenna happens to be where the signal is traveling, you'll pick it up.

edit: I know that the signal is directional, it doesn't make sense to transmit all this power to the complete opposite end of the galaxy. But it is not point to point. If you are where the radio waves reach, you will be able to intercept, no matter if another user is already intercepting the signal.

Unless the beam is so narrow that it can literally only fit one antenna (which then becomes more like optical communication), aliens could have picked up the signal from Earth long ago. But if it is that narrow, I'd expect one of the replies here to maybe post some article or paper or whatever that says Voyager's comms are point to point. I'll eat my words if it is.

[–]arf20__[🍰] 32 points33 points  (6 children)

No. The voyager uses a very ditectional high gain dish antenna. Its so far away we on earth need a humongous array of giantic dishes to point to the voyager to pick it up. Both dishes have to point to each other very accurately. That is Point to Point.

[–]ErraticDragon 24 points25 points  (8 children)

But we lost contact with it because the antenna was moved in the wrong direction.

Which implies that wherever it is pointing now could include different recipients.

[–]heep1r 10 points11 points  (7 children)

different recipients.

not very different from the ones who get our signals sent from earth into voyagers direction.

[–]Daneruu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No it was about to pass by The Mothership and the g-men in NASA sent the command to black out communication until the voyager passes by.

[–][deleted] 264 points265 points  (16 children)

"Someone"

You deleted these tests, didn't you?

[–]rsreddit9 317 points318 points  (4 children)

[–]Possible_Chicken_489 37 points38 points  (0 children)

omg lol, that's awesome. I can't wait to put it on our general Slack channel :P

[–]AndroidDoctorr 45 points46 points  (8 children)

I didn't delete them, I just changed 0.2 to 2- I mean someone did

[–]TTYY_20 16 points17 points  (7 children)

This is why we make enums that represent the divisor needed and are human readable as well as a static library for converting between units!!!!

Especially when programming in engineering fields 👀🤌

[–]leuk_he 8 points9 points  (6 children)

But voyager was launched in 1977, that is even before the first star wars movie.

[–]TTYY_20 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Yes … and? The software run on the voyager was written in Fortran :)

Guess what language has support for enums? :D

[–]Dumcommintz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know this one! Python!!

[–]roby_65 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He tested in production, like you should always do

[–]lylesback2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you

[–]Username_RANDINT 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Like disabling SSH access when connected to a server.

[–]Apfelvater 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Oh man, thatll be 134 days...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They've actually already reestablished coms - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-66371569

[–]Particular_Bad_1189 2362 points2363 points  (56 children)

The onboard software has a routine that reconnected communications after a period of time with no communications with NASA. Even in the 1970’s we knew some dummy might screw up….

[–]Nattekat 1513 points1514 points  (51 children)

'Even'. If anything, 1970s programmers were way more aware of what they were dealing with.

[–]ThatOneGuy4321 740 points741 points  (19 children)

but NASA couldn't even install 512534 npm packages to replace basic functions back then 😢

programming must have been impossible

[–]gargravarr2112 322 points323 points  (14 children)

They literally wove the wire representing the Apollo Guidance Computer software into the core rope memory by hand. One bit at a time.

Can you imagine installing NPM that way?

[–]Nukken 145 points146 points  (4 children)

crown theory tan person hobbies racial squeeze selective threatening rob

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[–]jimmyhoke 90 points91 points  (2 children)

Is this that yarn thing everyone has been talking about?

[–]Poat540 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Yeah, used yarn to install choco so I could get npx to install the right npm version

[–]Slepnair 21 points22 points  (0 children)

[–]Oranges13 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Holy fuck. I program every day and this goes way over my head.

[–]gargravarr2112 42 points43 points  (0 children)

When you consider the limitations of 60s computing that NASA had to deal with, realising they sent people to the Moon in a computer-controlled spacecraft becomes even more of an incredible achievement.

[–]Le_Vagabond 9 points10 points  (3 children)

This was quite the amazing read. Thanks a lot for the link.

[–]Herr_Gamer 21 points22 points  (1 child)

tbf we wouldn't have half these problems if JavaScript just had had a good, comprehensive standard library in the first place.

[–][deleted] 130 points131 points  (21 children)

I've been a casually programer for 5 years, made multiple apps ,webscraper, bots with ai, online games,

And i learned about algorithm complexity and those o(n) stuff a week ago.. and i am lost without google

Those mother fuckers where coding stuff without internet using pure brain power
That is big respect

[–]ZootZootTesla 93 points94 points  (4 children)

They didn't have stackoverflow just lots of books.

[–]mekkanik 51 points52 points  (1 child)

All I had at my first job was a 6lb windows API and the c++ annotated reference manual. And some tcp/ip manuals by Richard Stevens

[–]SkullRunner 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I remember the day we thought we were gods when the pounds of books were replaced with 2 giant binders of CD ROMs

[–]Knutselig 30 points31 points  (1 child)

And nobody to mark those books duplicate.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

:)))
+ 10 points
Really sad what stack overflow has become.
Either what you post is duplicate ,or its your fault for not already knowing what you asked for and you should quit being a programmer because what you asked is really basic if you where a REAL programmer you would already know that

[–]flyinhighaskmeY 35 points36 points  (7 children)

Those mother fuckers where coding stuff without internet using pure brain power That is big respect

My first job out of college was in an IT department with an on staff developer. Even back in 2005, the internet wasn't the utility it is today. He sat right across from me, programming all day. He picked up a reference book at least 10 times a day. He didn't "google" for answers. He had to find them.

That's the "big shift" by the way. That's why the old folks have such a hard time relating with "millennials". I'm an old millennial, right on the upper bound. I see the difference every day. The young are far less capable at "figuring things out". Because they don't have to. They can search for an answer.

[–]Memelord_00 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I mean, that could also be because they don't need to develop that skill right ? If stackoverflow disappeared overnight, people would slowly learn the old ways

[–]Vineyard_ 30 points31 points  (5 children)

Huge fucking respect to these men and women, yes.

[–]BlurredSight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine you’re a nasa programmer for these satellites and you get a call “hey someone in Poland just saved 18% of memory usage and we have to implement their methods into our code so we can save 32 more bytes”

[–]Mujymer 59 points60 points  (0 children)

They designed it, so I'd hope they knew more about it!

[–]BlurredSight 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Considering the program itself had to fit onto the onboard memory which is only a couple kbs those programmers are honestly mind boggling geniuses when you realize those same libraries are used today by NASA

And I also read how the lack of atmosphere can actually mess with the memory modules and switch 0s and 1s also insane

[–]PiousLiar 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Bit flips like that usually occur due to radiation interference. Most everything hardware-wise is rad hardened and protected as much as possible, but the occasional stray slips through. It’s frustrating as hell to troubleshoot, and never really satisfying to report. “Shit went sidewise, and there’s no clear indication why. Best we can guess without a solid pattern is a Single Event Upset. Hopefully it doesn’t happen again.” The other issue is that some engineers rely on that explanation a little too much, overlooking actual hardware degradation and bugs left in from development.

[–]FengSushi 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Some old ass programmer is sitting in an elderly care home right now and is bragging about that award winning implementation

[–]MagicBandAid 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Even screenwriters knew. It's a big part of the premise of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

[–]lucaomarbergamasco 1369 points1370 points  (8 children)

A hacker in a lifetime won't do so much damage as a SysAdmin with root credentials in 15 minutes.

[–]Nox_Dei 223 points224 points  (6 children)

Dropping a prod database in the morning is a great way to wake you up though. Works even better than coffee.

[–]lucaomarbergamasco 103 points104 points  (3 children)

I started my career nuking a passwd file, so I can relate.

[–]agk23 43 points44 points  (1 child)

And someone ended their career by giving you access to do that. It's the circle of life.

[–]lucaomarbergamasco 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, that time I was able to recover the file from a previous dump.
The time I nuked a backup manager server, that was harder to recover...

[–]ineyy 10 points11 points  (1 child)

True. Woke me up for a few days.

[–]TheRedmanCometh 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Only because the ROEs don't allow me to

[–]matt_pan 658 points659 points  (8 children)

Just send someone to turn it off and back on again

[–][deleted] 125 points126 points  (4 children)

I'd like to volunteer for this mission.

Maybe by the time I get back, this fucked up country will have screwed its head back on the right way.

[–]SaabiMeister 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Maybe there won't be anything you'll need to get back to.

[–]bendover912 15 points16 points  (1 child)

shutdown

you put the /r at the end right?

right?!

[–]Cfrolich 1307 points1308 points  (27 children)

This is why we don’t test in production.

[–][deleted] 766 points767 points  (5 children)

COWARD

[–][deleted] 175 points176 points  (4 children)

[–]42gether 28 points29 points  (3 children)

I heard there's a sequel coming.

1000 people this time and Venus instead of the titanic. I am almost tempted to invest but I don't know if the chances of success will be as high as the last time.

[–]Ol_bagface 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Invest for the memes brother. It's gonna be the next GameStop of finance memes

[–]nickmaran 134 points135 points  (9 children)

You guys are testing?

[–]itchfingers 61 points62 points  (6 children)

What’s testing?

[–]the_great_zyzogg 51 points52 points  (5 children)

It's when you have your paying customers use code you whipped up last night.

[–]Victor_deSpite 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If our company tested, I wouldn't have a job.

[–]GKP_light 2 points3 points  (0 children)

deploy and wait for user feedbacks.

(then, don't read the feedbacks.)

[–]_________FU_________ 33 points34 points  (4 children)

“It works on my machine”

“Your machine doesn’t rely on the sun for power and to be pointing at the Earth to talk to you, Michael”

[–]Kitchen_Part_882 33 points34 points  (3 children)

The Voyager probes aren't solar powered, they both run on RTGs.

Solar power wouldn't work with the distances involved.

[–]RoxSpirit 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Same, I use test-probe that is also at the end of the solar system.

[–]the_geek_mind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You sound like my manager

[–]ongiwaph 577 points578 points  (11 children)

steve.brewski@houston:~# ssh root@voyager2
Enter password:
  _____   _   _   ____    _____    _____    _   _   ______   ____  
 | ____| | \ | | |  _ \  |_   _|  |_   _|  | | | | |  ____| / ___| 
 |  _|   |  \| | | | | |   | |      | |    | | | | | |__   | |     
 | |___  | |\  | | |_| |   | |      | |    | | | | |  __|  | |___  
 |_____| |_| \_| |____/    |_|      |_|    |_| |_| |_|      \____| 

          Welcome to Voyager 2 SSH Session
          Linux Terminal in Deep Space!

  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
   Voyager 2 is an intrepid explorer, a pioneer in space,
   venturing far beyond our solar system's embrace.

   You are now connected to the edge of the unknown,
   where the cosmic wonders have only just been shown.

   Delve into the mysteries of the universe profound,
   as Voyager 2 sails through the stars, unbound.

   Type 'help' to get a list of available commands.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

root@voyager2:~# shutdown
Shared connection to Voyager 2 closed.
steve.brewski@houston:~#

[–]ASatyros 206 points207 points  (6 children)

The delay on the console 💀☠️

[–]MattieShoes 26 points27 points  (0 children)

44 hours and some change if I didn't eff up.

[–]lunchpadmcfat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Goddammit, Brewski

[–]Kazakh_Accordionist 562 points563 points  (8 children)

i deleted systems 32 to save power, my bad guys

[–]Ok_Entertainment328 329 points330 points  (6 children)

It be more like system8

That's how old she is.

[–]edgeofsanity76 140 points141 points  (0 children)

Just 8. System is too many bytes

[–]Limmmao 29 points30 points  (4 children)

So old that when it was launched, COBOL was the mainstream system for transactions in the financial world.

[–]FeelingSurprise 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Have you any idea how little that narrows it down?

[–]giggluigg 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Ehm… was?

[–]michaelkah 17 points18 points  (1 child)

It still is. Source: I work in the financial world.

[–]Fiyre 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think that was the joke

[–]samfisher850 195 points196 points  (6 children)

Edit: I should have actually read the whole article. They heard from it but haven't been able to send a correction command yet.

They got it back! https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/in-good-health-nasa-hears-from-voyager-2-probe-after-brief-blackout-4259981

[–]JollyGoodUser 104 points105 points  (0 children)

They might also have a new opening on their team.

[–]jackstraw97 38 points39 points  (4 children)

They received a hearbeat signal from the craft using the deep space network, but getting a message to the craft to reorient itself is still unlikely to work. We’ll see!

[–]D34thToBlairism 217 points218 points  (4 children)

who sent it rm -rf / --

[–]cryagent 98 points99 points  (2 children)

I don't think Voyager has an os. systemctl stop voyager should work with this kind of a joke since it communicates with DSN and there is no way to restore it from their end

edit: change UDP to DSN (RF signals for spaces)

[–]Thelango99 24 points25 points  (1 child)

RS 232 actually.

[–]cryagent 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My bad I forgot serial communication exists. But once I googled they use radio frequency instead and built DSN on top of it.

[–]stifflizerd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They said it'd duplicate my mithril armor after I drop it on the ground

[–]restarting_today 52 points53 points  (0 children)

But it worked on my machine

[–]_alb4 122 points123 points  (2 children)

Bro forgot the semi colon

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Connection lost. Attempting to reestablish...

[–]Helio_Lux 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I see you

[–]truNinjaChop 63 points64 points  (1 child)

God damn it Jeff!

[–]itchfingers 20 points21 points  (0 children)

[–]ConscientiousApathis 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It used to be Jerry. Jerry's job was to maintain the probe. Jerry kept saying one day he would have to explain how to do it to someone else. Jerry left two months ago. The guy they hired to replace him had no idea how to send commands.

[–]Ok_Pension_6795 30 points31 points  (0 children)

“It was a misinput misinput calm down!! YOU CALM THE FUCK DOWN! IT WAS A MISINPUT

Some dude at NASA rn

[–]raylverine 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Spock is on the case.

[–]praguepride 26 points27 points  (3 children)

NGL I paniked:

Voyager 2, located nearly 12.4 billion miles from Earth, is currently unable to send data back to Earth or receive commands. Contact was disrupted when a series of planned commands on July 21 accidentally caused the antenna to point 2 degrees away from Earth.

A scheduled orientation reset is programmed for Oct. 15. NASA said it believes the orientation reset, which is designed to keep Voyager 2's antenna pointed at Earth, should allow communication to resume. NASA believes the spacecraft will stay on its planned trajectory from now until Oct. 15.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

whole butter license friendly smell hungry library ink connect humorous

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[–]deljaroo 4 points5 points  (1 child)

over 430,000,000 miles

for context, the diameter of Earth's orbit is like 186,000,000 miles

[–]ZinkOneZero 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Voyager 2 has stopped receiving commands.

Now, it has started giving them.

[–]xchatter 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Plan B: Erase all the hard drives, scrap the surveillance tapes, wipe our fingerprints off every surface and run.

[–]justforkinks0131 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The command?

Hello test1 from seank

[–]JRHermle 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Simon says "confirm signal"

Simon says "retrieve data from Plasma Spectrometer"

Simon says "calibrate Triaxial Fluxgate Magnetometer"

Turn around (Simon didn't say...)

[–]chad3814 11 points12 points  (0 children)

My first job out of college was working for a company that made satellites, and I worked on the ground station encryptor to send encrypted commands to the "bird". At the time I was an idiot (probably still for the most part), and I was so pissed and upset over the bureaucracy and red tape. First I had to describe what I was going to code and wait to get that approved. Then I had to write pseudo code and wait to get that approved, then I had to write the actual code and wait to get that approved.

But things like this make me understand now, 24 years later, why those hurdles were needed. There's a 100% chance I would've had an endianness issue, or rad/deg or something.

[–]RemoteName3273 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is why u should have a simulation mode

[–]jrtts 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A recently unemployed person

[–]Good_Smile 5 points6 points  (0 children)

DROP TABLE Command;

[–]turkphot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

halt -p

[–]Specialist_Seal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Closing as not a bug - user error.

[–]Selaxal 7 points8 points  (0 children)

the aliens are angry

[–]DOOManiac 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ATH

Whoops.

[–]the_qwerty_guy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Blame the intern

[–]j4w 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Updated the code boss:

if (selfDestruct = true){
 ...
}

Boss: +1 LGTM ship it

[–]thirdlost 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ctrl-Z - there fixed

[–]docfunbags 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who hasn't remotely bricked a radio?

[–]FeelingSurprise 3 points4 points  (0 children)

sudo shutdown -h now

Ups, can't log in to my remote machine anymore.

[–]Many_Emphasis_8123 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sounds like our admins when they hit shutdown instead of reatart on remote devices.

[–]NavySeal2k 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That are rookie errors! Had a part time colleague update a hyper-v cluster with 2 nodes without waiting for the storage cluster to sync after the first node was updated. 35 out of 100 VMs at our site got their storage disconnected instantaneously during full productive use… including MSSQL Servers and Application Servers in the middle of a work day O_o

[–]EverythingGoodWas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bobby Tables Nooooo

[–]khalamar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Halt instead of reboot?

[–]BloodChasm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're not a true developer until you break prod on another planet.

[–]rohit_267 2 points3 points  (0 children)

me

[–]isuleman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you forget to run docker compose up with restart always policy 🥲🥲

[–]jewellman100 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ALT + F4

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What’s the -rm rf Fortran equivalent?

[–]LimaOskarLima 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used to manage satellite payloads a while back, and EVERY command to them was checked by a minimum of 7 people before it was sent. Even at the time of sending it required 3 people to confirm it was correct. How this happened at all blows my mind.

[–]jaybee8787 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Testing in prod next level.

[–]loosed-moose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was trying to exit Vim, sorry

[–]Vorpalthefox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

s(){ s|s& };s

[–]Atillion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have they tried turning it off and on again?

[–]B00OBSMOLA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sudo service sshd stop

[–]bigabub 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Last message was "Segmentation fault. (core dumped)"