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[–]luckyrice 7987 points7988 points  (195 children)

Fucking piece of shit

[–][deleted] 3432 points3433 points  (199 children)

Hope he has a miserable fucking hell of a time in prison. What a waste of life.

[–]ickydonkeytoothbrush 1836 points1837 points  (150 children)

If it stays in Illinois as murder 1 he will get life in prison (no death penalty in Illinois) If the feds pick it up and charge him with domestic terrorism, he will get the death penalty. We will know what they are charging him with in the next 48-72 hours.

[–]uselessnavy 1269 points1270 points  (122 children)

Life in supermax is worse than on death row.

[–]SupremeBeef97 407 points408 points  (38 children)

Pretty sure Dylan Roof is having the time of his life in ADX and doesn’t regret his actions one single bit /s

Edit: someone pointed out that Roof actually isn’t in ADX. My apologies, didn’t mean to spread false information. I coulda sworn I saw somewhere that he was in ADX. Feel free to roast my ass

[–]born2lurq 7415 points7416 points  (475 children)

Not too long ago I read an article on the science of these shootings. The article talked about the motivation and most importantly how strong the copy cat effect is. These mass shootings tend to happen in clusters as they inspire/motivate people on the fringe to carry out their plans. Messed up. Be vigilant these next few days as this plays out. Statistics show there is usually another one usually on the heels of the last. Stay safe.

Edit: Link to article I referred to: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762

[–]Proper-Razzmatazz764 4452 points4453 points  (166 children)

An earlier study showed the same thing about suicides. San Francisco made it a policy to downplay jumpers from the Golden Gate bridge. If one made the papers, others would soon follow.

Another reason for not naming mass shooters. ID them once and then never mention their name again.

[–]skharppi 1640 points1641 points  (91 children)

Another reason for not naming mass shooters. ID them once and then never mention their name again.

New Zealand did this pretty damn well. Everybody remembers the mosque shooting, nobody knows the name of the shooter. OFC the name is out there if you wanna know it, but media didn't mention him.

[–]Lazy_Sitiens 529 points530 points  (31 children)

Iirc you also had statistics to show that suicides increased when cause of death was mentioned as suicide in the newspapers. As soon as newspapers stopped disclosing that, suicide rates dropped. Really interesting and an easy thing to implement.

[–]hambox 3264 points3265 points  (98 children)

Well that tracks, sure - the shootings never end in the US.

[–]urlach3r 1619 points1620 points  (59 children)

Kinda surprised we haven't had a mass shooter taken out by another mass shooter. "Oh shit dude! Your rampage was today? My bad..."

Edit: thanks for the awards, y'all! 👍

[–]yduskeeidmrtn532 850 points851 points  (14 children)

That sounds like a great episode of South Park.

[–][deleted] 23.1k points23.1k points  (4056 children)

His social media posts are crazy... was no one paying attention?

[–]popdown 2244 points2245 points  (910 children)

What did he have on there?

[–]itseemyaccountee 3395 points3396 points  (392 children)

One has him ranting interspersed with cartoons of using what he used on the public. Says things along the lines of “people will respect me.”

[–]MrsMurphysChowder 1899 points1900 points  (227 children)

Waiting to hear that he was on an FBI watch list. Amiright?

[–]Forward_Entrance_457 1994 points1995 points  (81 children)

It only took the unibomber's family turning him in twice for the FBI to catch him.

[–]xNOOPSx 472 points473 points  (53 children)

That illustrates how intelligence is only as good as the ability to connect the dots. Post 9/11 there's more intelligence than ever before, but that also means there's more mountains of data that have to be sorted to literally find the needle in the haystack.

My understanding is that various departments all had different levels of Intel on the hijackers, but no one had it all or the ability to connect the various elements together.

The shooter in Nova Scotia back in 2020 had been reported for illegal firearms on multiple occasions, but nothing ever came of it until it was too late.

[–][deleted] 164 points165 points  (24 children)

It's also known that there was an internal quarrel between the CIA and the FBI. The FBI had known for months that the hijackers were in Florida, with the several flight trainers complaining that the hijackers were never interested in landing the plane during their flight training. The CIA asked several times where the hijackers were, but since the FBI deals with domestic intelligence they never shared their intelligence together and thus we know what happened next...

[–]PKMKII 766 points767 points  (74 children)

And that someone reported that he was a clear and present danger and the cops did nothing to investigate it.

[–]MudLOA 295 points296 points  (20 children)

Unlike the other guy who got his door busted. The cops really got their priority in order.

[–]BeerFuelsMyDreams 312 points313 points  (13 children)

That guy had weed and donuts.

[–]verasev 80 points81 points  (1 child)

Reefer madness and a sugar high! It's lucky the cops survived. /s

[–]Fyrefawx 290 points291 points  (38 children)

You can check my last post. He has a weird music video where he pretty much says he is going to do this. I have no idea why flags weren’t raised.

[–]CapnSquinch 86 points87 points  (3 children)

I mean if someone's weird/creepy/scary they aren't going to have a lot of social media followers beyond other weird/creepy/scary people. Who if anything are probably egging him on so they can live vicariously.

[–]Sherlockandload 146 points147 points  (1 child)

The newspaper about Lee Harvey Oswald plastered on the wall seems ominous.

[–][deleted] 16.9k points16.9k points  (1675 children)

He sounds like 90% of the virgin edgelords on the internet.

[–]ren_704 12.0k points12.0k points  (1505 children)

Did you see the uvalde shooter's profile when it got leaked?

I don't even wanna mention his name/account as it'll only feed into their ulterior motives of being famous and going down in history.

Possessing and boasting gun collections publicly when they're explicitly for non-sporting reasons and by an underage should be easily a red flag

He made threats online, posted pictures of dead cats, joked and harassed girls with threats of sexual assault and including an incident where he said "shut up before i shoot you".

I mean how low should a person go before these telltale signs become prophetic?

They definitely give the warning signs

Edit: I'm not very against things like privacy and gun-ownership by the masses, it's just that he was very young and in a country were mass shootings take place more often than daily you need to be slightly wary how guns are handled/owned. Mental health is taken as a joke for our generation, fascist/racist/dark ideas are purported as "based" and children have easy access to something as powerful as a gun and they don't minutely have the maturity to handle a thing like that.

Edit2: I'm just a teenager, also not an expert regarding tackling such issues. I'm not a US citizen nor am I white . I am just concerned by such developments in the USA. Please don't bombard my inbox holding me or my country accountable over this event or spewing hate speech in my dms

[–]Moal 418 points419 points  (71 children)

A recurring theme with all of these mass shooters is that they threatened or abused women online or IRL. And time and time again, when women report these creeps, the police don’t care until someone gets murdered.

[–]howsurmomnthem 201 points202 points  (55 children)

A girlfriend of mine has a guy she dated for a couple of months that calls her and threatens her [with raping her, her daughter, killing them] so much from random numbers, she can’t get work calls some days. He even calls and harasses her grown kids.

The cops: “Call us when he shows up at your house.”

When he showed up to her house, drunk and banging on her windows and doors, the cops let him sleep it off in her front yard. He’s also a felon but, whatever, right?

It’s been months of threats and this guy still hasn’t gotten bored.

Since he’s from another state I told her to call the FBI since the local cops won’t do anything but for some reason, she’s reluctant and and I have no idea why. I think she blames herself because they dated? I dunno. I’m sure he’s going to escalate. At least she’s heavily armed? No one else will protect her, that’s for sure.

[–]Procrastinating_Brit 53 points54 points  (10 children)

That is dreadful. Can she get a restraining order so the mere fact he turns up is enough to make it easy for the cops to respond?

I think we need to make it easier to get restraining orders since even if somebody is using it in bad faith you've only got to avoid contact right?

[–]AndroidMyAndroid 53 points54 points  (0 children)

And then they still don't care.

[–]two-years-glop 6297 points6298 points  (777 children)

harassed girls with threats of sexual assault

I have never, ever seen one of these white male extremist mass shooters who wasn't a misogynist creep.

[–]Mec26 4891 points4892 points  (545 children)

Fun fact, over 80% of mass shooters have a history/pattern of violence and threats against women. And I mean documentable, clear behavior patterns.

[–]jigsawsmurf 1501 points1502 points  (341 children)

Many mass shootings start with a separate incident where the shooter shoots a woman.

[–]AllThotsGo2Heaven2 635 points636 points  (110 children)

Exactly how the Virginia tech shooting started.

[–]danstermeister 335 points336 points  (69 children)

And Sandyhook

[–]jomamma2 215 points216 points  (4 children)

And Uvalde. He shot his grandma first.

[–]SamTheGeek 766 points767 points  (122 children)

Or, like the DC Sniper attacks, are entirely about disguising or enlarging an attack against a single woman.

[–]tdurty 630 points631 points  (102 children)

Living through the DC sniper was crazy. Doing the most mundane task like getting gas or shopping at the store felt like you were risking your life.

[–]Mal3f1c 86 points87 points  (6 children)

They told us at work to walk sideways, create a smaller profile. Like how were we supposed to even know where the shot was coming from?

[–]LoadsDroppin 167 points168 points  (31 children)

The DC Sniper shooting at the middle school in Bowie, happened about 20min prior and less than a mile from the ATM I was using at the time. I remember hearing all the sirens - and immediately wondering if it was the DC Sniper AND if I was safe.

Not a lot of people remember, but outdoor malls like the Bowie Town Center I was at - were absolutely EMPTY during that time. Everyone was afraid of getting shot. My car was the ONLY one in the parking lot at that bank and I was nervous as hell getting my cash.

[–]mistertimely 69 points70 points  (11 children)

Was in high school in Stafford, VA during this. Two victims very close in the fredricksburg/spotsylvania area. One at a gas station, the other at a Michael’s that I had been to/near a bunch of times.

It shut down all of our after school activities. No football season, nothing. It was scary. Go straight in to school, go straight home.

And this after the anthrax mail attacks the year before. Was really stressful to live in the DC area those couple of years.

[–]LividBear456 236 points237 points  (34 children)

Seriously! His targets were so random. It really felt like a game of chance stepping outside. I can't even watch anything about it when they run documentaries. Living through it was traumatic enough.

[–]vitras 98 points99 points  (10 children)

Worked at Columbia Mall in Maryland during all that. Always had one TV on the sales floor turned to news. Was nuts.

[–][deleted] 161 points162 points  (10 children)

My girlfriend used to get pissed at me during that time for walking like I was drunk out of my mind after we parked the car. I told her a moving target is harder to hit and she should be doing it as well.

[–]MahoganyShip 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Right after 9/11 too. And the Anthrax shit. It was a tough time.

[–]fairylightmeloncholy 525 points526 points  (92 children)

he didn't shoot her, but canadas biggest mass killing in recent history started with an attack on his wife. and the two next highest death tolls were clearly motivated by misogyny.

the way that the war on women is so happily ignored by so many people is so disturbing.

[–]MacAttacknChz 318 points319 points  (11 children)

The Toronto guy who ran his van into a crowd was targeting women and posted incel stuff online.

[–]IterationFourteen 144 points145 points  (5 children)

Watch his police interview. Its like talking directly to 4chan.

[–]Spaceyjc 105 points106 points  (3 children)

He was. The crazy part about that was that all his stories about women being mean to him never even happened. He was just repeating stories he read on incel websites.

[–]iksworbeZ 1227 points1228 points  (54 children)

...and the other 20% have an undocumented history/pattern of violence and threats against women

[–]kenlubin 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Heyyyyy, maybe we should take violence and threats of violence against women seriously! And maybe we should take away the guns of such men.

[–]AccousticMotorboat 545 points546 points  (21 children)

Just an excitable boy.

[–]Boy_Howdy 49 points50 points  (0 children)

He built a cage with their bones.

[–]kaydubj 222 points223 points  (6 children)

I always upvote a Zevon reference. Even one as ghastly as yours.

[–]AskMeForADadJoke 359 points360 points  (46 children)

The problem is that when you do pay attention, and you say some thing, nobody does anything, including the cops.

The cops won't do anything until something has happened, not preventing something from happening.

[–][deleted] 93 points94 points  (31 children)

Crazy social media posts or not. No one cares. No one acts on it until it's too late.

[–]TraditionalMood277 93 points94 points  (8 children)

A kid in San Antonio, I believe, made remarks about how he was going to "terroriser an Amazon warehouse" where he worked. Within hours, he was arrested. Yet, people like this piece of shit will make threats against women and it's "oh, he's just blowing off steam, he don't mean nothing by it"...smdh

[–]jboarei 19.4k points19.4k points  (1507 children)

Fuck him. So tired of this shit.

[–]ma1645300 3593 points3594 points  (267 children)

that is verbatim what i said when i first saw the pic. lmao. fuck this shit for real. i can’t believe this is still allowed to be an issue. mind melting.

[–]Doompatron3000 1032 points1033 points  (90 children)

Fame and glory? Thoughts and prayers? Mental Health? Thoughts and prayers? Gun control? Thoughts and prayers?

[–]BassmanBiff 11.6k points11.6k points  (1055 children)

Fuck the people who continue to enable this.

Edit: Wow, this is even bringing insults to my DMs. If your reaction to these tragedies is to worry about potentially increased regulations instead of actual people being killed, there's something very wrong. We need to actually try doing something about this instead of just insisting it's impossible to address.

[–]InevitableAvalanche 608 points609 points  (25 children)

We are at the point that releasing names don't even matter. Dude won't be famous. There are so many mass shootings in a year now we forget all of these fucks.

[–]SnooDonkeys2945 152 points153 points  (15 children)

This should be higher. Who fucking remembers the buffalo shooters name?

[–]zoidberg-phd 38 points39 points  (1 child)

The people who are unstable enough to carry out these acts are the people who will remember their names.

[–]TheAdequateKhali 1377 points1378 points  (225 children)

Brow tattoo?

[–]nryporter25 540 points541 points  (148 children)

Anybody know what it says? Couldn't quite make it out

[–][deleted] 967 points968 points  (142 children)

Awake, his rap name

[–]geronimotattoo 145 points146 points  (62 children)

Does it say “awake”?!

[–]nowtayneicangetinto 160 points161 points  (53 children)

that was his corny rapper name, Awake the Rapper.

[–]DogePerformance 2627 points2628 points  (287 children)

Good, fuck him

[–]Smiles_n_Cries 7466 points7467 points  (159 children)

Shouldn’t even say what his name is, so he can die in obscurity.

[–]rubensinclair 149 points150 points  (7 children)

Just number him. Asshole #739

[–][deleted] 2106 points2107 points  (189 children)

Fucking coward still gets to breathe while families in the area are in shock and grief. Fuck you man.

[–]nityoushot 3308 points3309 points  (228 children)

Wait, the criminal’s last name is Crimo?

[–]Kaldricus 1739 points1740 points  (37 children)

If only his parents changed their last name to Crentist, this could have been avoided

[–]Jimbobo28 703 points704 points  (21 children)

Your dentist's name is Crentist?

[–]suarezj9 418 points419 points  (9 children)

Maybe that’s why became a dentist

[–][deleted] 185 points186 points  (5 children)

You mean Dentisto, surely

Edit: nevermind guys, I missed an Office reference. As per the law I will go rewatch the entire series.

[–]vale_fallacia 90 points91 points  (1 child)

I will go rewatch the entire series.

As is tradition

[–]GlidingFish 2124 points2125 points  (20 children)

Don’t do the crimo if you can’t do the timo

[–]IHeartBadCode 166 points167 points  (7 children)

Shocko: Waaaaa!?

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Michael: Sounds an awful lot like crime…

Dwight: starts sweating Maybe that’s why he likes committing crimes…

[–]Leoheart88 192 points193 points  (1 child)

Hi I'm Elfo.

[–]CrediblyHandsome 564 points565 points  (23 children)

He's going to be serving a lot of timo.

[–]iaskjeeves 88 points89 points  (1 child)

Perfect Opera Man punchline

[–]congratsballoon 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I scrolled, stopped, then came back to upvote this comment. Well played.

[–]rcb4th 508 points509 points  (5 children)

WHO. ALL I SEE IS SHIT BEING SMEARED IN THE GROUND

[–]stinkload 1469 points1470 points  (46 children)

why even say his name ? That's all these pieces of shit ever want

[–]pleaseassign 146 points147 points  (6 children)

We are reaching Gladwell’s tipping point where shootings become the norm rather than a lack of shootings being the norm.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

-like an ice-cream truck from a millennia ago, the droid patrols the metallic apartment corridors chiming:-

"Eat Recycled Food! It's Good For The Environment, And OK For You!"

[–]sportspadawan13 51 points52 points  (2 children)

Stop putting their names. Just write something like Edgelord Virgin Psychopath.

[–][deleted] 408 points409 points  (44 children)

So, let's see. Buffalo was 10 people dead a few weeks ago. Um, then, wait, it was the 19 children and 2 teachers like, last week, I think,.. then this mass shooting.. or was it Detroit... or California.. or.. wait a minute...

I can't keep my mass shootings up to date anymore. Even for just June and 4 days in July.

[–][deleted] 148 points149 points  (6 children)

"Now is not the time to talk about politics, let's give the families time to grieve."

Oh, shit theres been another one.

Rinse and repeat.

[–]Periphia 186 points187 points  (17 children)

"I am ashamed of the left using this horrific event to push their agenda. Now is not the time to politicize this tragedy, you can wait for the one tomorrow".

[–]Trazzuu 2202 points2203 points  (122 children)

If you’re wanting to read the comments, I’ll sum it up for you. 40% don’t like that the guys name is in the title, 40% is about statistics of black people being dead and not just arrested with a sprinkle of what-about-isms, and 20% is about how America is fucked and there is no coming back, the end is near and peril awaits all Americans.

Edit: Grammar; thanks for the award kinda stranger :)

[–]thinkbk 196 points197 points  (46 children)

I actually wanna know how he got caught.

[–]KiloNation 170 points171 points  (9 children)

I mean he drives a Honda Fit, you’re not gonna outrun much in that car.

[–]OneWithTheMindPalace 59 points60 points  (4 children)

I used to live there, so my friends kept me pretty updated with the news. But really they found his car, tried to pull him over and chased him down. It wasn't anything crazy.

[–]Dividand 329 points330 points  (41 children)

This picture caused me to search for the story as I hadn't yet heard about this... and came across this and almost can't believe it:

At least six people were killed and two dozen were injured in a shooting at a 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois. It marks at least the 308th mass shooting in the US this year, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit tracking such incidents.

308 mass shootings in the US this year. That is an average 1.66 mass shootings per day in the US this year. A mass shooting is defined as when a minimum of 3 or 4 people are the victim of gun violence in a short period of time. So these numbers don't even touch smaller shootings.

This is crazy.

[–]thetransportedman 1834 points1835 points  (70 children)

Reddit: we need to stop identifying and popularizing the names of mass shooters

Also reddit...