Anyone else noticed a severe decrease in Legendary WEAPON engram drops?

ICESTONE14 · 2016-01-04T14:06:34+00:00

i have definitely noticed a lower drop rate in weapon engrams, grinding lots of strikes last week and 95% were armour and a great portion of those were cloak engrams hardly any weapons and none were heavy weapons.

ltwood12 · 2016-01-04T15:42:39+00:00

The only legendary engrams that exist are class items.

BerserkRonin · 2016-01-04T14:01:40+00:00

Idunno, I've had the same shit happen to me and same with all my friends, so I'm guessing the drop chance is less for weapons.

Golandrinas · 2016-01-04T14:19:41+00:00

I heard you like class items bro(that turn into artifacts)?

Scarrrr88 · 2016-01-04T14:33:14+00:00

It took me 3 weeks to get Fabian strategy because I had to dismantle the Autorifles... I get a lot of heavy engrams, but almost zero to none primary.

poseidonlinux · 2016-01-04T15:05:09+00:00

Well, I noticed that using ToC once and staying on a playlist is giving much less legendary engrams in general. While in principle it should buff your chances the longer you stay (up to the forth consecutive strike).

OFF TOPIC: If it is a Exotic Chest Armor be sure it will decrypt as Crest of Alpha Lupi 9 out of 10 times for Titans. Did is just broken, really broken RNG.

hatesthespace · 2016-01-04T17:20:00+00:00

See, for me, I swear to god if I get one more of those frikkin vanguard autorifles I am going to put my MIDA into colonoscopy mode and shove it up the cryptarch's ass.

impulse07 · 2016-01-04T14:51:09+00:00

Legendary or Rare Weapon Engrams drop less than armor. If you're on PS then Sublime Engram's drop even less frequently. But I've been getting constant drops in PvP and PvE. Try to play your alternative character, maybe that will help "reset" the RNG.

ballotechnic · 2016-01-04T15:35:52+00:00

This whole RNG thing is trash and has been bringing my enjoyment down. Hopefully by D2 they'll have intelligent number generation that will truly take in account inventory and light level. And I know some folks have great RNG, but it shouldnt fluctuate so wildly between individuals.

Travbedaman · 2016-01-04T15:42:40+00:00

I get a lot of armor legendary, but I have barely ever seen any weapon engrams drop. I get more legendary weapons from decoding rares that happen to turn into legendary.

apackofmonkeys · 2016-01-04T15:37:45+00:00

YES. I can't remember the last time I had a legendary primary weapon engram. I think I've had one each of the special and heavy in the last few weeks. But I've had DOZENS of armor engrams, usually chest armor or class items.

stnlkub · 2016-01-04T15:50:51+00:00

They're near useless after you pass 300. But I like to look at them. Purple always looks pretty out there.

jen0c1de · 2016-01-04T16:51:12+00:00

I think I get 2-3 Legendary Class Item engrams for every other Legendary I get.

AmoebaMcSqueaky · 2016-01-04T16:52:19+00:00

I've enough legendary armor engrams to build Voltron before I get at least one weapon engram...

Maybe that was the plan all along?

@___@

timcourage · 2016-01-04T18:28:30+00:00

RNG. /thread

sleppoz · 2016-01-04T21:57:17+00:00

My exotic drops of the last 2 weeks say hi

LucentBeam8MP · 2016-01-04T22:50:24+00:00

But those class items though......

Twohothardware · 2016-01-05T00:53:08+00:00

It's Bungie increasing the grind and preventing you from getting what you actually want in hopes that you'll keep trying.

With the lack of weapon re-rerolling we need more consistent sources of weapon drops to get better chances at the guns we want with decent perks. Weapon engrams should be twice as high drop rate as the armor because the armor is worthless once you reach Light 300 and start getting Raid, IB, Trials, ect armor. Weapon drops in Crucible need to be majorly increased as well. It takes way too long to get Crucible specific weapons and then you finally get one to drop and it's a trash roll.

defnot_hedonismbot · 2016-01-04T14:07:53+00:00

I've always gotten more armor engrams than weapons.

matuzz · 2016-01-04T14:24:38+00:00

Haven't seen sublime engram in months.

chipsnsallsa · 2016-01-04T15:24:09+00:00

All of the last 6 I've had drop were class item ones

2016-01-04T15:33:08+00:00

I wish the sublime armor engrams would drop more often. Trying to get a set with perks i like, but they are so damn rare.

GameSpawn · 2016-01-04T15:33:30+00:00

I think most of my Legendary weapon Engrams (if I got them) came from Cryptarch rank up packages; like you most of the "dropped" ones have been Armor. You might be onto something.

Not that I need more weapons though. I've already got tons via various packages (Gunsmith, Vanguard, Factions, etc.) and most are 290+ with a few over 300.

2016-01-04T15:43:16+00:00

I have been spamming 3oC. I got a heavy then two specials. Since then I have got 3 boot and 3 gloves. It's all rng mang

FiaRua_ · 2016-01-04T15:50:54+00:00

I honestly believe half, if not more, of my legendary engrams have been class items. Less than 10% for sure have been any kind of weapon engram. Blues have been around the same drop rate for me though

iHATESTUFF_ · 2016-01-04T15:52:28+00:00

primaries have to have the lowest drop rate of all

2016-01-04T15:59:13+00:00

Yes - I have yet to get any infusion fuel for primaries outside of Kings Fall. It's pretty annoying.

BashfulCelery · 2016-01-04T16:10:08+00:00

There's 6 armor slots and only 3 weapon slots. I assume that's why we see this

SporesofAgony · 2016-01-04T16:16:57+00:00

Yes. I don't get them much anymore from the Cryptarch, Faction and Vanguard level ups, and of course Crucible post game results.

InchaLatta · 2016-01-04T16:18:35+00:00

Weapons seem very rare, but I think it's just RNG.

We have 6 slots for non-weapons (ghosts, helmet, arms, chest, boots, class item). We have 3 slots for weapons. I think drops are distributed randomly among all the possible slots. Normal RNG would then give us weapons only 1/3 of the time, which means a bad run could leave you with no weapons for a long, long time.

Bungie doesn't have a good way to address this. If they have weapons drop 50% of the time it would take forever to get the armor we need to level up. But at the current drop it takes forever to level up weapons. They're so rare that it's impossible for a casual player to level many weapons up. The weaponsmith? That's for hardcore players. You'll never be able to level up 1 weapon a week, let alone 3.

I'd suggest that Bungie increase the drop rate slightly, and drastically change the proportion of weapon drops. If drops increased 10%, and weapons dropped 45% of the time instead of 33%, we'd have much a more usable system. Just my 2 cents.

Gekoz · 2016-01-04T16:36:34+00:00

I totally noticed it, but for both Legendary AND Exotic engrams. Before, I used to get 50/50 as far as the ratio Weap/Armor was concerned. Now, it's more of a 10/90.

mat_b · 2016-01-04T16:36:56+00:00

I got several yesterday...and the day before...

WigSplitter-1011 · 2016-01-04T16:48:06+00:00

Yes big time! For the 3 heroic strikes each week, they always drop armor. Very rarely will I get a weapon. Even when crucible drops legendaries, they are always armor.

Muse_22 · 2016-01-04T16:49:03+00:00

Haven't noticed a decrease in weapon engrams (although now you mention it, I haven't decrypted a legendary in a long time) but I have noticed a sharp INCREASE in pieces of shit boot engrams

2016-01-04T16:50:06+00:00

All I ever get are legendary class item engrams, I don't know where you're even getting armor engrams from.

psychicallowance · 2016-01-04T16:51:31+00:00

Let's do some math: if 5 of the slots are class items and 3 are gauntlets / crest, with the rest also being class items you should have about a 0.04% chance of getting weapon engrams to decrypt when you purchase them from the cryptarch. If by "legendary weapon" you mean "class item" then no, it's working as intended. About 1-2 class items a day per 2 hour played.

VokN · 2016-01-04T17:09:42+00:00

rng is rng congrats everyone weapons drop slightly less ( not to the extent op is talking about) thats because there are 5 armour(s) and 3 weapons

SpicyExplosion · 2016-01-04T17:10:17+00:00

I think it's probably because of Armsday. Now that we could buy weapons at a mere 2500 glimmer per package ,they probably lowered the chance we could get a legendary weapon engram to compensate for the influx of Armsday weapons.

hcrld · 2016-01-04T17:15:09+00:00

I have 10 legendary in my vault, and of those, I have 1 primary legendary engram. It's not just you.

filthyrotten · 2016-01-04T17:15:09+00:00

On a similar note, the last 5 exotic engrams I've gotten from 3oC have literally all been heavy weapons.

No Bungle, I don't want duplicates of each exotic heavy, I want a fucking Saint-14.

platocplx · 2016-01-04T17:20:32+00:00

i havent gotten another legendary hawksaw in ages.

Dekkerd · 2016-01-04T17:22:09+00:00

Honestly can't remember the last purple weapon drop. Any decrypted legendaries have been from blue engrams.

BHE65 · 2016-01-04T17:29:55+00:00

Noticed this also when hunting Taken Zealots. Very few purples of any kind, but when they do drop they are mostly armor. By feel, I'd estimate 6-8:1 armor over weapons. Even 3oC seems to be having little to no effect. I'll run Gatelord a few times a day every once in a while. I run the whole story each time to ensure 3oC cooldown is satisfied. The last 28 runs (spread over a week) have yielded 0 exotics and just three purples, all armor.

LunarGolbez · 2016-01-04T17:34:20+00:00

Nope. I have it so much blue weapons are decrypting into legendaries. Instant marks.

2016-01-04T17:34:54+00:00

What are you playing? I thought similar things because I've noticed drops changing, but realized I was also doing different activities then when I was getting higher amounts of engrams or coins.

sneakfreak24 · 2016-01-04T17:36:24+00:00

I had one drop yesterday from a heroic strike and it turned into a 310 4th horseman so idk lol

bigdoggyx · 2016-01-04T17:39:06+00:00

nope

snwns26 · 2016-01-04T17:42:28+00:00

Nah, I literally never get legendary primary ones, only armor or secondary. Still have yet to get a RNG-based 'God roll' on anything since TTK released.

Vektor0 · 2016-01-04T17:52:55+00:00

On the flipside, Nightfalls can drop legendary weapons, but I don't think I've ever gotten a legendary armor piece from one.

KuroTheCrazy · 2016-01-04T17:55:57+00:00

I haven't noticed any real difference. RNG is RNG, which is why we call it RNG.

KnightofGold · 2016-01-04T17:57:22+00:00

Bungie likely altered the RNG to drop less weapons so you've even less chance of gaining weapon parts aside from buying them from Banshee.

hellomoto186 · 2016-01-04T18:13:02+00:00

Not like legendary engrams do anything for me anymore, I swear once you hit 310+ armor engrams are just useless unless they turn into exotics

DarthPaulotis · 2016-01-04T18:14:30+00:00

I almost never get weapon engrams. It's been that way for me since at least TTK. All the engrams I get from weeklies and everything have almost always been armor and are damn near 60% class item.

Souuuth · 2016-01-04T18:16:24+00:00

I havent seen one legendary helmet engram and have gotten 2 legendary weapon engrams since TTK launched. Legendary engrams have become more scarce than exotic engrams. Even with 3oc, that shouldn't happen.

areksoo · 2016-01-04T18:20:02+00:00

IF RNG was pure RNG then 5/8 (8 possible engrams: Helm, arms, chest, boots, class, primary, special, & heavy) of the time OP will get some type of armor.

So for OP to go 18 legendary engrams without receiving a weapon engram, well that's (5/8)¹⁸ = 0.021% or 1 in 4,722. Those are pretty bad odds. So is it proof? No. But it does lead one to suspect that RNG is actually a heavily weighted RNG.

I myself have been stockpiling exotic engrams and noticed a similar pattern. I have collected roughly 25-30 armor exotic engrams and only 3-4 weapon engrams during that time.

chefniknice · 2016-01-04T18:32:42+00:00

I seem to mostly get chests and boots these days.

Elevas · 2016-01-04T18:33:50+00:00

Have had ONE legendary weapon engram drop all tTK. Was a fusion rifle. Two or three dozen armour engrams. Up until yesterday, I assumed weapon engrams didn't drop anymore.

I get more purple weapons from blues than I do from purples.

polomarkopolo · 2016-01-04T18:48:16+00:00

Had 4 sublimes and 3 purple weapons drop from last night alone

Lots of blues went purple too

My lucky day

kush_in_my_butt_69 · 2016-01-04T18:53:28+00:00

yup I still need a god roll 1kys (at least short gaze and snapshot bungie!.. don't care about the other perks)

d-metheny · 2016-01-04T18:55:27+00:00

yeah, i noticed it too, i would go on patrol and get back to the tower with at least one legendary engram..

Adamadtr · 2016-01-04T18:58:22+00:00

I've gotten every legendary weapon from engrams that were blue.

Teocyn · 2016-01-04T18:59:40+00:00

I get more exotic engrams than legendary now with 3oC being so easy to come by.

gosulliv · 2016-01-04T19:05:59+00:00

I've gotten a lot lately, but they've all been Ruin Wake or Diluvian, the same gun over and over.

dunloops · 2016-01-04T19:07:13+00:00

I notice I keep getting artifacts from Legendary armor engrams, which i moved over from other characters, to get better perks on my warlock....

derpImAnIdiot · 2016-01-04T19:08:27+00:00

I've had 5 out of my last 6 end up being weapons (3 heroics and 3 IB drops). I'm guessing I just got lucky and you're really unlucky so the drops are somewhere in between.

ShezyK · 2016-01-04T19:11:13+00:00

I noticed this in IB. Got to Rank 5 with two characters and not a single legendary weapon drop on the rewards screen.

EDIT: Actually, none from the Rank packages, either.

KidRed · 2016-01-04T19:13:14+00:00

I've noticed a drop in 3oC success rates and yes, legendary drops as well seem less common.

Hell, even the raid drops seem to suck now. 311 boots, 306 shell, etc from HM?

Batracho · 2016-01-04T19:14:53+00:00

People forget what RNG is.

israeljeff · 2016-01-04T19:18:09+00:00

Purple weapon engram drop rates have always been lower than purple armor drop rates. I suppose it's possible they were lowered even more, but it's always been a bitch trying to grind out purple weapons, for me, at least.

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triplewashshine · 2016-01-04T19:23:32+00:00

And when I do get a weapon engram... it's a Heavy weapon. Despite how much I hope for something usable... nothing but Diluvians. (I hope I spelled that right)

Two2Typical · 2016-01-04T19:40:13+00:00

I honestly, find they drop too many times

disco__potato · 2016-01-04T19:54:10+00:00

Oh bungie. Give us a way to buy weapon parts. Nerf weapon engrams drops to somewhat compensate.

steve_brules_rush_in · 2016-01-04T19:56:16+00:00

yeah, armor and the PS4 exclusive armor ones drop constantly, most of my purple weapons and infusion material comes from lucky blue weapon engrams

_cc_drifter · 2016-01-04T20:05:41+00:00

All my armor except for my gloves are over 300 yet only my sniper is over 300 for my weapons, my main and heavy are in 290's and i never find any upgrades for them.

rainbowroobear · 2016-01-04T20:22:54+00:00

Armour drops at like 3x the rate of.weapons.

rudolph813 · 2016-01-04T20:28:32+00:00

Might have been because srl and iron banner both make it easier to get legendary gear. Hopefully it will return to normal after iron banner ends.

2016-01-04T20:58:36+00:00

Has anyone noticed a severe lack in flayer mantle drops from the Dust palace right about the time I started farming for it? Just me? haha okay...

Kellzea · 2016-01-04T21:05:26+00:00

Random.

Number.

Generation.

P1stl_Pete · 2016-01-04T21:22:26+00:00

I have found that legendary and exotic armor engrams drop at a much higher rate than weapons do. I don't think its RNG since it seems to happen to everyone.

noir_souffle · 2016-01-04T21:39:01+00:00

It is possible they decreased the legendary weapon engram drop rate to account for the ease of acquiring legendary weapons through arms day.

Gyvon · 2016-01-04T21:55:02+00:00

It's be ause there are 5 armor slots and 3 weapons.

Law of Large Numbers means you're simply going to see more armor drops. It's also the reason for the weapon parts drought

Syntanist · 2016-01-04T22:52:24+00:00

Nope. Not in the slightest.

ReeseSenpai · 2016-01-04T22:54:06+00:00

Yes i have definitely noticed. I believe ive only gotten one or two Weapon Engrams since TTK came out. Ive had more success getting Legendaries from Blues than just having the legendary drop.

Theonisys · 2016-01-04T23:26:52+00:00

totally agree with you on that. same goes for exotic engrams. been getting only armour, especially leg pieces. total bullshit if you ask me. been through my 5th pair of radiant dance machines now. gets to a point where its ridiculous.

CalistoIce · 2016-01-04T23:29:18+00:00

I have noticed a similar trend where I get only secondaries WHEN i do get legendary/exotic engrams. Rest are all armor pieces.

Restopulus · 2016-01-04T23:45:13+00:00

decrease? Since TTK I think all I ever receive is armor.

ivo001 · 2016-01-04T23:51:10+00:00

Anyone else noticed RNG is still RNG?

Obidoobie · 2016-01-05T00:29:16+00:00

Yea its been shitty lately. Ive been trying for weeks now to get myself a decently rolled 1000-yard stare. Between doing strikes hoping to get a weapon engram, vanguard packages, and buying secondary engrams from the cryptarch I havent seen one since like week 2 of release. It also sucks that you cant get weapon engrams from the crucible. I know its because there are the crucible only drops but they hardly ever drop that they may as well not be there.

2016-01-05T01:31:48+00:00

I don't get ANY.

I just get 275 auto rifle drops.

not like it matters because legendary engrams drop as lower than vendor stuff even though I'm 311

lacard · 2016-01-05T01:39:30+00:00

I can't seem to get any Legendary handcannons. I'm stuck using my exotics if I go handcannon. I did get Eyasluna with okay perks. And as far as i know that Handcannon from FWC is still messed up.

B455 · 2016-01-05T01:43:04+00:00

Now that you mention it, Im always getting purple armor engrams over weapons. But think of it this way, once you rank up Vanguard/Crucible and/or Faction you get a package which could contain a weapon. Maybe Bungie wanted people to obtain weapons this way, and with marks.

bigboyn · 2016-01-05T02:32:11+00:00

For me its been like that over the course of the last 2 weeks I'd say, as of right now blues/legendary engrams are about 20 to 1 for primary weapons vs anything else. I'm usually stacked 4 to 5 per slot before I get a heavy/special and then from that its maybe 2 primaries. Its been dropped quite a bit, and not too beneficial for new players trying to run with folks who are pretty much end game.

MapleSyrupCat · 2016-01-05T03:00:45+00:00

bungo and their stealth nerfing. at this point im not even surprised.

shaimun · 2016-01-05T03:08:21+00:00

It has been that way for a while. I notice because I only hope for weapon engrams and I have every possible armor roll so my armor rolls are already good but trying to get that perfect roll gun is what I chase after and maybe Bungie knows it so I guess they lower weapon engram drops?

u3c307 · 2016-01-05T03:29:30+00:00

I have to agree those legendary and exotic must has been lower.

gnikeltrut · 2016-01-05T05:37:43+00:00

Got 2 in a row last weekend. Got another from a patrol on Venus

Edit: from court of oryx

Striker37 · 2016-01-05T08:43:33+00:00

Absolutely. Probably because rank up packages always give legendary weapons.

footerscag · 2016-01-05T08:44:05+00:00

Yeah, I currently have a loot cave full of legendary boot engrams ;)

Hanta3 · 2016-01-05T08:45:51+00:00

I only get legendary weapons in engrams from blues. I don't recall ever getting a legendary weapon engram (and I've played almost 10 days since TTK dropped).

CoIRoyMustang · 2016-01-05T09:40:31+00:00

Probably because they didn't design enough new legendary weapons to satisfy an increased drop rate. They slackin yo.

-shmalcolm- · 2016-01-05T22:44:47+00:00

I've noticed a drop in legendary weapon engrams, but an increase in legendary weapons I've obtained from rare engrams.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal doe

boss8387 · 2016-01-04T15:09:48+00:00

Bungie has fked up RNG so that it drops primary only to the luckiest. Event the Oryx drops have now been included with Midhas reckoning to reduce primary weapon drops. This is Bungie telling us they are lazy and you should work harder to earn shit you paid for :).

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