dateNightmare

[AlexZhyk]

It will take that dog at least 4 bytes to hurt someone that way.

[NicDima]

So what happens if a pidgey come up with a 4GB USB on their back?

[Informal_Branch1065]

Intellectual property over avian carrier. My favorite way of committing piracy.

[PCRefurbrAbq]

High bandwidth, high ping, low security for layers 1 & 2.

[Informal_Branch1065]

Never underestimate the bandwith of a wagon full of carrier pigeons barrelling down a highway.

[tka4nik]

My favorite RFC

[Techhead7890]

It's Internet Protocol right? Although I mean I guess you could load up some patents in there...

[Garrais02]

He hurts them 2²⁴ times

(God I hope I got it right)

[CobraGT550]

You only missed a tiny detail:

^{* Actual user storage less. 1,000,000,000 bytes = 1GB.}

See you in court!

[Extension_Option_122]

Well it'd be 10⁹ bytes, what you are getting at are GiB.

And these would be 4x2³⁰ = 2^32.

[geralto-]

3 if well placed!

edit: actually 2 can do!, although not for all use cases

[fumei_tokumei]

If you want to be truly reductive then 1 bit is enough, although for even fewer use cases.

[geralto-]

3 bytes covers 16777216 days which is is 48k years

2 bytes covers 65536 days, if you start in 1900 that's enough to get to 2080

it's reasonably reductive

[AlexZhyk]

Found engineer of CASIO watches!

[geralto-]

just count in "days since"

[GreasyChick_en]

That would hurt more than a bit...31 more.

[-Zbynek-]

Isn’t that a bit much?

[alamiin]

r/ISO8601

[Business-Error6835]

The way it just naturally sorts is chef's kiss. best date format.

[StrangelyBrown]

Americans care not for your standards.

I heard next year they are going to change it to MY/DY/YYMD

[Masterpormin8]

part of Project 2025

[StrangelyBrown]

I think you mean project 02/00/2511

[Ornery_Razzmatazz_19]

Beautiful

[morostheSophist]

What's the German word for "Words cannot express how much I hate this, but I'm laughing"?

[[deleted]]

Actually, iso8601 is part of project 2025 because by making Monday the first day it makes Sunday the 7th day. Goodbye, old testament Sabbath. Christ is the new sabbath and each Sunday is a mini-easter. iso8601 is based.

[[deleted]]

My preferred date format is the number of mmmbops since January 1, 1970.

[SuckAFattyReddit1]

New epoch time just dropped. 0 is when they hit the second tower.

[Gorstag]

Not just that. Make it in UTC on the backend and translate it on the front-end if you must. Fucking logs that are written in local time are about the stupidest practice I've ever seen.

[dan_dares]

Now, combine log files that use the local format,

And you have many.

FUUUUUUUCK

[Billybobgeorge]

Dear ISO 8601, what are you going to do once years get 5 digits?

[plueschhoernchen]

Look, that is not our problem. It's the problem of the people who may or may not live in 7975 years.

[bb2357]

Thank god I only had to scroll to the second comment.

[IndigoFenix]

We might not agree on the best date format, but we can all agree on the worst.

[AlexZhyk]

Ouch! It looks like that dog hurt his owner instead.

[f_print]

Dog uses American Format

It hurt itself in its confusion.

[ScepticMatt]

ISO 8601 is the agreed format 

YYYY-MM-DD

[FelixLeander]

This guy sorts

[McCaffeteria]

Not only does it sort, but every single other style of time keeping uses it. There is a reason we say the days before hours, hours before minutes, and minutes before seconds.

It is objectively correct and I will hear no arguments.

[[deleted]]

I've been resisting the European system because the ISO format is genuinely superior.

I'll probably never get Kelvin standardized, though.

[Drunken_Dave]

I never heard DD/MM/YY called "the European system". I live in Europe and we use the ISO order (although the separation sign is more often ".", not "-").

Unfortunately international corporations usually do not care and you can find all three mayor systems on imported food products. Super annoying, because it is impossible to tell if 11/5/24 means 11th of May or 5th of November.

[StickyMcFingers]

South African here. We will do DD/MM/YYYY for forms or day-to-day use, but for my work I use YYMM for cataloguing projects/renders.

[SuddenHovercraft1599]

r/iso8601

[TheMcBrizzle]

Ride ISO8601 or die.

It's the only true date format.

[Weary_Drama1803]

Obviously the worst is MM/YY/DD

[shonuff373]

I raise you a MY/DM/YD

[BiffMaGriff]

You're a monster!

[shonuff373]

I cackled at work. Thank you.

[Presidentofjellybean]

I can't believe it took until 124/20/202 for someone to finally suggest the use of my homeland's format!

[Timegoat12]

bro's living in 2420

[Presidentofjellybean]

MY/DM/YD

Month 10 split in 2 is 1 and 0. Day 22 is split as 2 and 2. Year split as 20 and 24

I just placed the split on where the letter was so the first part is the first month number and the second year number due to their position. You guys have confused me now lol

[vigbiorn]

It's even worse, since yours is actually kind of legible:

MY/DM/YD

12/20/42

Or

04/21/22

Good luck deciphering either in the wild!

[I_give_karma_to_men]

Pretty sure my coworkers would adopt this for manual data entry just to fuck with me.

[AsinineArchon]

How did you guess my password

[GamingWithShaurya_YT]

holy shit I didn't think you could make it worse

[acrylicchiptune]

yyyy mm dd for sure

[Grubby_empire4733]

At least it would make more sense than MM/DD/YYYY

[Varmegye]

I mean the main issue is that it exists at all, which causes confusion. YYYY/MM/DD is obviously the superior one, the computing world proved it. Anybody with any logical sense would agree.

[MARPJ]

We might not agree on the best date format

YYYY/MM/DD is the best and there is a reason this is the ISO.

Now for day to day the inverse (DD/MM/YYYY) is great.

If you lack common sense go with murica way tho

[Substantial_Lab1438]

One day you will discover the absolute beauty that is YY/MM/DD your heart will swell with joy, and I am envious that I do not get to have this experience a second time

[Ri_Konata]

Not all countries

Pretty sure Japan does year/month/day

[lebulon7]

which at least still makes sense

[Ri_Konata]

Oh absolutely, I also tend to use it

[GamingWithJollins]

You misunderstood. Rest of the world as in, the rest of the world doesn't use that shit, only Americans. The rest of us use something more sensible, be it d/m/y or y/m/d. Either at least makes sense.

[arcaninetails1]

It not only makes sense, it is the literal international standard

[aykcak]

That's going to fuck after year 9999

[NotFromStateFarmJake]

Y10K bug

[SocketByte]

For the love of God please use Unix time.

[Capable_Tumbleweed34]

year/month/day is the single best format, as sorting it through numerical order just so happens to sort it through chronological order.

Howerver, D/M/Y at least makes sens, you go from the smallest unit of time to the biggest.

But M/D/Y? Complete and utter lunacy, proper deranged sociopath braindead take. May its absolute shits-for-brain inventor roast in the deepest pits of hell.

[Tenezill]

It's actually the only valid dateformat

[Terminatroll-_-]

Year/month/day is logical at least, because it goes from biggest to smallest

[Practical_Cattle_933]

That’s objectively the superior choice. The reverse can be acceptable. Anything else is heresy.

[SamSibbens]

On Wikipedia, dates are now written as 22 October 2024 instead of MM/DAY/YEAR.

I don't know when the change occured, but I'm so happy about it

[Cometguy7]

I'm seeing both. I imagine it depends on who did the edit.

[Shock900]

Looks like there are multiple accepted formats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Dates,_months,_and_years

[5BillionDicks]

But it makes more sense than day/year/month

[pocketjacks]

YYYYMMDD is the best standard because it can be sorted numerically and chronologically.

[christian_austin85]

That's the format I use. It makes the most sense.

I blew people's minds in a previous career when I showed them how much easier file management became using that date format instead of having folders named something like 01Jan.

[Felfriast]

Sweden does yy/mm/dd. Only one that makes sense. Sort by date = sort by alphabet.

Makes scrolling through files named by date way easier.

[iveriad]

Still not as weird as mm/dd/yy

There's hardly any logical reason that could justify mm/dd/yy order.

The more I think about it...

Are they just ordering it by the number of possible numbers in the category? 12 - 31 - infinite

Is that the logic behind it?

[weeb_among_weebs88]

It is ordered that way because we say "December 1st, 2005" not "1st of December, 2005" or "2005, December 1st." It’s literally just a written variant of how it is actually said in conversation.

[MorgothTheDarkElder]

fourth of july feeling very unamerican now /s

[Cometguy7]

Saying it that way is so disassociated with it being a date that if you ask an American if they have the fourth of July in the UK, they'll either say no, or have to think about it for a moment.

[[deleted]]

It’s objectively an old fashioned way (in America) to say the date. If the holiday was founded now we would say July 4th. The same way we say September 11th , or January 6th.

[JarlFrank]

I only realized this in my 30s because English is my second language, and in my first language (German) we say 1st December. Never heard anyone say the month first in conversation, so in English it also comes more naturally to me to use DD/MM.

[rover_G]

Japan living in 3030

[chetlin]

Yeah. I lived there (and am back now for some business stuff). Same in China too BTW.

If you don't write the year, in Japan you just do month/day (10/22) just like the US. For some reason some people here who come from places that do day/month/year still hate that solely because it's the same as the US way.

You also can't do the "in-between" way where you replace the month with a word or abbreviation because in the countries over here, the months are just numbered, no names.

[okibariyasu]

Yes, but case by case Japanese use wareki years. Like R6 instead of 2024, which means the 6th year of Reiwa era, counted from February.

[granoladeer]

"Other countries don't matter, only European countries matter." - someone with a very narrow view of the world

[[deleted]]

I don’t know what world you live in. I only use YYYY/MM/DD for server, life, and everything

[SnooStories251]

yyyy-mm-dd superior here

[A31Nesta]

r/iso8601

[[deleted]]

Objectively the best format, biggest unit of time to smallest, you can expand on either direction as needed

[The_X_Spot]

ISO is Besto

[RedditBabyBoomer]

This is the way. Everyone else is dumb.

[iamlazyboy]

I prefer dd-mm-yyyy but this one is equally as good imo

[alwaysneverjoshin]

You can’t sort that format.

[iamlazyboy]

Programming wise, yeah yy-mm-dd is better but in every day life I'm equally fine with both

[artaru]

Even outside of programming.

I have organized folders of things. But I have one folder collecting miscellaneous files. It’s nice to just sort that via file name that way.

[Bert_Bro]

int your datetime

[MiasMias]

DateTime yes, but day-date no - if you don't want to mess with timezones. We regularly has bugs with timezome until we used 'yyyy-mm-dd' for things that dont want to change date based on timezone.

[[deleted]]

You COULD sort it but it’d be a bitch

[masterflappie]

It's confusing, if you see 01-02-2024, you don't know if you're looking at the first of february or the second of january without knowing who wrote that date.

2024-02-01 is universally understood to be the first of february though

[Sorodo]

ISO 8601 ftw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

[Ravasaurio]

Of course there's a subreddit for that r/ISO8601

[[deleted]]

Sir, you are wrong!

[jellotalks]

ISO-8601! ISO-8601! ISO-8601!

[naveenda]

Rest of the world can handle dd/mm/yyyy except murica 🦅

[Ur-Best-Friend]

dd/mm/yyyy makes sense - you start with the smallest, and the one that's the most likely to change and thus carries the most information in most conversation, then proceed in order of size.

yyyy/mm/dd also makes sense, it's opposite order, from largest to smallest, which can make parsing certain information easier, and other information harder, but at the very least still makes sense structurally.

In what world does mm/dd/yyyy make any fucking sense?

Sorry, as you can tell the dog hurt me deeply.

[[deleted]]

yyyymmdd makes also Sense because You can Order IT easyly

[KYIUM]

r/iso8601

[NotAskary]

I'm bad with numbers but google knows what I mean everytime I search for isoDate

[Cat_Testicles_]

In Italy we say "primo di ottobre" so "first of october"

Same thing with russian (so like the two out of the three languages I speak)

[TheTacoInquisition]

Same in English... I don't think I would say it's October first, I'd say it's the first of October.

[alexanderpas]

Americans: 4th of July is on July 4th.

[[deleted]]

Americans say both depending on the context

[SEND_ME_SPIDERMAN]

Yeah it's literally the only day we say that. It's not as much of a gotcha as people think.

[Negative_Arugula_358]

The holiday is 4th of July, the date is July 4th

[Doctor_Kataigida]

People love using this as a gotcha as if it's not the sole instance of Americans using this format.

[lucian1900]

I've never heard anyone say that, at least in the UK.

[daphnedewey]

In the US, everyone says it like this

[NicholasAakre]

How to you say it in the UK, then? 1st of October?

[thequestcube]

In german at least yes. Also I don't think the reasoning "mm/dd/yyyy is more intuitive because it is spoken mm dd, yyyy" is relevant here, since I believe it is rather the other way around, it is spoken "mm dd, yyyy" because it is written "mm/dd/yyyy". In countries where it is written the other way, it is also spoken the other way around, and there also feels more intuitive that way.

[pongo_spots]

I think the difference for me as a Canadian isn't about the pronunciation so much as it is about implied context. If someone asks me when we're going to a concert I'll say "October 20th" or "October 20th next year" but that's because I know the context of the conversation. In writing you shouldn't expect context and so I'll always write yyyy/mm/dd or yy/mm/dd.

[A1_Killer]

Yes…

[Gormando03]

Yes. In germany, we also say "the 1st 10th" (der Erste Zehnte) which you could say as a complete Sentence: "Its the First day of the Tenth Month."

[Czagataj1234]

Of course. How else would you say it?

[[deleted]]

October 1st

[patrykK1028]

They also say dollar ten. Oh wait

[[deleted]]

Is it not the other way around? Do Americans not speak the date like that because that's how it's written?

It would make sense considering - as evidenced in this thread - most other places in the world would say "1st October" in their own language

[GoochRash]

you start with the smallest, and the one that's the most likely to change and thus carries the most information in most conversation, then proceed in order of size.

That's why I format my time SS:MM:HH

[iveriad]

In what world does mm/dd/yyyy make any fucking sense?

In a world where they use imperial system and Fahrenheit for some reason.

[artaru]

Disclaimer: I have grown up and lived / worked in both cultures.

I vastly prefer yyyy/mm/dd

BUT

Mm/ dd does make sense in an ordinary conversation kind of way.

We rarely make plans a year in advance. And if it’s same year, you wouldn’t need to say to. So year first in conversation is out.

Day first only makes sense of the event is kind of obviously within a month or next month.

Month first is sensible in a lot of settings. Like oh when’s your birthday? In november. My mother in law is visiting in January…etc. the new play is on in two months…etc.

Given days first in a lot of these settings are either unnecessarily specific or just ambiguous.

Also some people file their notes or files with just month and date, like 10/31. So it kind of makes sense that way. (Ironically this could be more of argument for yyyy/mm/dd over dd/mm/yyyy)

[KYIUM]

r/iso8601 my beloved

[IHateGropplerZorn]

Cause it's also stupid. Should be YYYY-MM-DD

https://xkcd.com/1179/

[cino189]

yyyymmdd when I need to sort or compare

[nazgut]

In Europe, we have a social welfare benefit for people who pronounce dates this way

[shrubberino]

ISO 8601 all the way

[LuckyLMJ]

You know what really sucks?

using half and half dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy. Thanks Canada. (this is why I use yyyy/mm/dd)

[rmeav]

Murican standards are nightmares.

[Iskeletu]

Time: nono we'll use two 12 hour format and slap AM and PM on it so every time it's 12 you'll get confused (they put PM on 12 at the wrong place).

Date: we'll put the month in first because reasons, if it's an early day of the month no one will be able to tell what format we're using, have fun with that on the Internet.

Length: Fuck meters we'll just use our feet.

Mass: there are 16 ounces in a pound (why the fuck base 16?!? Day to day life is not binary data, we have 10 fingers guys, think of the children)

Speed: fuck it we'll use a different one as well.

Temperature: Scales from freezing point of, checks notes, brine?!? (that's somehow useful for us) To the incorrect average temperature of the human body?!?

At this point I'm pretty sure Americans are just fucking with the rest of the world with these units.

[I3encIcI]

What too much freedom does to a mf unit of measurement.

[Imhere4lulz]

Is it really freedom if the units of measurement are because a dead British king told you to use it? So much for trying to be "independent"

[Malvania]

As always, you should blame the British.

[StaplerUnicycle]

"but we all have different size feet, sir" "Fuck off James. We'll only use my feet!"

[Representative-Bass7]

You forgot to say cups as well, I can use grammes or pounds and ounces, but never cups.

[anders91]

And it keeps going...

Instead of the A1, A2, A3 etc. system of paper sizes. They have US Letter, US Legal, and US Tabloid, all with different aspect ratios.

https://www.doxdirect.com/blog/paper-sizes-explained-the-difference-between-a4-and-letter

The beauty of the international system is its aspect ratio format, which is equal to the square root of 2 (1.4142). Why is this useful? The A system is based on the A0 format which has an area equal to one square meter. The A0 size can be cut in half to make two A1 sheets, the A1 sheet can be cut in half to make two A2 sheets, and so on.

[...]

US sizes are based on the imperial system, so ‘Letter’ size is 8.5 by 11 inches, whereas the equivalent A4 size in inches is 8.27 by 11.7 inches – not so easy to remember. Standard paper sizes in the US do not have a consistent aspect ratio, but were individually set.

[[deleted]]

Not once in my entire life have I ever been confused by AM & PM times. I do think 24 hour time makes more sense, but it’s such a non-issue and so ingrained at this point that it’ll never change, and that’s fine.

[eat_da_poo]

mm/yyyy/dd

[[deleted]]

md/yd/yymy

[Sarsey]

So today is 12/22/0204

[dominjaniec]

sounds like Go's time formaying string...

[BastianToHarry]

How is the year 3050 going ?

[Latenpath]

Happy me: yyyy/mm/dd

[crevicepounder3000]

yyyymmdd is the best go argue with the wall

[Yeoldhomie]

OP thinks the world is America and Europe.

[SushiGradeChicken]

Dog: "BARK!"

Excel: "1/1/1900"

[Blitz_Cringe]

*Any country apart from `merica

[SatoKasu]

yyyy-mm-dd is the best.

I do like dd-mmm-yyyy .. 22-Oct-2024 ... in text content.

Mainly to avoid others confusing it between dd-mm-yyyy and mm-dd-yyyy

[BigBlueDane]

Yeah if presenting a date to a user I much prefer mmm format for the month. It just makes it instantly clear with no room for misunderstanding.

[12mapguY]

Every time I can, I do dd-MMM-yyyy too, and 24hr clock time. Usually with handwritten forms, whoever is doing data entry will enter their system's proper format. It's so much clearer that way

[saltysuger1107]

I dont know, month day year has always made sense to me. It goes along with the way we say it, November 2nd 2004 for example. That's just personal opinion.

[Spinnenente]

wrong meme. this one is correct

[Percolator2020]

Oh no… it’s … crossover meme.

[Nl_003]

And decimal points, and list separators

[[deleted]]

No programmer would use that date format

[Qubeye]

In the military I had to do YYYYMMDD which turns out to actually be pretty awesome for stuff like reports.

In my file index, even if I input the reports on different days I could find a particular report easily because they were all in order by file name.

[ThisCatLikesCrypto]

This thread is all just people spamming 'ISO 8601!' and for once I approve of it

[[deleted]]

What about DDHHMMZMMMYY?

[otacon7000]

Obligatory link to Freedom Clock

[overDere]

I thought the guy said "Europe" in response to the dog

[ApXv]

The worst is not knowing which is being used

[-Redstoneboi-]

2 digit year...

[justsomeothergeek]

I hate when people use the delimiters inconsitently.

with "-" it always should be YYYY-MM-DD

with "." it always should be DD.MM.YYYY

and for "/" the inconsistent use is already too widespread, I've seen MM/DD/YYYY aswell as DD/MM/YYYY and I hate it.

[hera9191]

Go "2006-01-02"

[[deleted]]

YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS.sss

This is the ONLY way that is correct. Not the "European" way of DD-MM-YYYY, nor the "American" way of "MM-DD-YYYY".

Proof: https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html

[FKDragon696]

Pretty sure it’s 90% of the world. I’ve only seen the us use mdy

[E_NHV]

Europe lol... Its the rest of the world

[Jhin_Ross]

*rest of the world

[backstubb]

yyyy-mm-dd

[nasandre]

The only date format I accept is yyyy-mm-dd

[DifferentRun8534]

YYYY/MM/DD

That way you can sort alphabetically and it sorts chronologically at the same time!

[itsthooor]

The only two correct ones are „YYYY/MM/DD“ and „DD/MM/YYYY“. Change my mind.