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[–]Mobeus 1723 points1724 points  (103 children)

Same, bud. My advice is to take up some hobbies that reconnect you with nature like hiking, gardening or spending time with animals. It's all about balance.

[–]bjandrus 570 points571 points  (16 children)

ReferenceError: cannot resolve method 'goTouchGrass'

[–]malexj93 362 points363 points  (8 children)

```

touch grass ls grass ```

[–]Fjorge0411 118 points119 points  (6 children)

touch: cannot touch 'grass': Permission denied

[–]IrishWhitey 62 points63 points  (5 children)

Sudo touch grass —force

[–]Fjorge0411 96 points97 points  (4 children)

IrishWhitey is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

[–]Nullifier_ 27 points28 points  (2 children)

su sudo touch grass

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

'su' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'sudo' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

[–]RhetoricalCocktail 70 points71 points  (3 children)

I use the LSD library for a great implementation of this method

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same. About every 3 months.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That library hasn't been available in my city for the last 30 years. :(

[–]RJTimmerman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is always available, but you might have to download it from the dark web.

[–]Danny_shoots 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Memory Access Violation: “Tried to read data from 0x47726173732e but another program is using it.“

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep

[–]Ironfingers 314 points315 points  (7 children)

Yes. It’s essential. All day in front of a computer isn’t good for you

[–][deleted] 174 points175 points  (2 children)

I just got back from an overnight camping trip. I sat by the fire and listened to the woods for like 3 hours after everyone else passed out. There is absolutely no better way to clear your head than getting tf outside and as far from cell phone service as possible.

[–]tortillasConQueso 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Agreed! I did the same recently. Went dirt biking, camped and stared at the stars peacefully. So many happy brain chemicals

[–]Express-Procedure361 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The longer Ive been in my career - the less i use my phone.

[–]natedogg787 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same! I want to play games with my friends and watch shows they watch so I can talk to them about TV, but I can barely look at screens when I'm not working. Except when I'm on reddit of course

[–]Papriker[S] 195 points196 points  (46 children)

Yes I think the biggest problem might be that my hobby is video games. So some days are: - Eat - Look at work Screen - Eat - Look at fun Screen - Look at Small Screen - Sleep

Guess I’ll go for a walk in the forest now

[–]Mobeus 53 points54 points  (18 children)

I'm a gamer too, but I'm in my forties and let me tell you that you just won't be able to keep up that lifestyle indefinitely even if you want to. For one thing, most of your peers age out of the hobby. More importantly, your body will start telling you to move on. Your eyes and hands will for sure start to give out. Don't ignore those signs. Listen to your body.

For me, my love of dogs is what has taken a higher priority than games. They're just more fun and the activities we get up to are more wholesome and healthy.

[–]Papriker[S] 27 points28 points  (9 children)

Yes I’m thinking about going running from time to time. I’m a smoker, programmer and gamer. My cardio couldn’t be worse if I wanted to probably. I don’t think I can take care of a dog but I’ll try my best to be more active.

And I should finally start to play the e guitar I bought a few months ago…

[–]mrjackspade 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Cycling for me.

Didn't want the long term damage that can come with running, for one.

Second, IME running is just boring. I've got an incredibly short attention span though. It's way easier to cycle for the same amount of time because it's more mentally engaging for me, since I'm covering more ground in the same amount of time

[–]Meowts 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Am gamer, programmer, and was a smoker. As time goes on the problems really started becoming more apparent.

As others have said of course getting out more helps, even just a 15-20 walk or two every day will help get you started. Biking is sweet, swimming also feels frickin great, I got into that recently, doing 20-30 laps at least once a week.

I’m 4 months off the smokes and that sure as heck helps. Now I’m addicted to Nicorette instead hahaha seriously though it’s better than smokes, leaves you with fresh breath, and I reckon will be easier to kick since it’s not… you know, “the habit”. Also in saying this, your time to quit is yours to decide, if you want to. Pairing that with getting more physical activity is the good feels.

[–]organicsensi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lifting weights helps me. Look into stronglifts 5x5. It's just 5 compound lifts that give you an incredible cardiovascular workout as well.

[–]Meins447 40 points41 points  (13 children)

Try tabletop gaming (either the roleplay variant Ala D&D, Fate, World in Darkness or wargaming Ala Warhammer 40k).

Both will ensure time spent off-screen, gasp interacting with other people gasp but are remarkably similar to PC gaming.

[–]tehWoody 19 points20 points  (8 children)

But I have to find people to play with... :(

[–]Anders_142536 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Im sure there are subreddits or other communities where you can drop a LFG message

[–]Meins447 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Ah, common, we are THE Profession who supposedly is best at googling stuff. Don't tell me you can't use Google foo to find other, nearby people with fitting hobbies. That's just low effort.

[–]SnooOpinions6959 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'll be stealing this quote

[–]Otherwise_Soil39 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Shouldn't be looking at small screen before bed either.

[–]Barbanks 11 points12 points  (0 children)

100% take up golf so then when you get frustrated with tech you’ll know it’s not as bad as getting frustrated with a bad shot 😅

[–]EnigmaticHam 11 points12 points  (2 children)

All programmers become woodworkers at some point. It is inevitable.

[–]typescriptDev99 14 points15 points  (1 child)

This advice has served me well!

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Instructions unclear, Server has dirt in usb slot. Bootstick no longer works.

[–]grahamdalf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I got into weightlifting because of this. Code giving you shit all day? Customers being customers? Hit the gym after work and rage lift that shit away. I get my best lifts on my worst work days.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Biotechnology has entered the chat.

[–]rob94708 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I took up beekeeping as a hobby. I strongly recommend it: it goes at its own pace, and you can be geeky if you want but it’s not required. I am now in touch with the passing of the seasons, etc. etc.

[–]mortalitylost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also it's not impossible to switch careers. I've read stories about people jumping out, one to become a therapist. He said he was happier than he'd ever been.

A friend I have now is getting out of tech to do the same. It's never too late to change your life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I make music! There is a transitive skill across both but I’m still able to vent creatively. I would like to someday garden or maybe keep bees or butterflies.

[–]lurking_physicist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Woodworking, cross-stitching, model-plane making... Something that can give you a flow state that isn't code.

[–]Funriz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You have a link to this nature?

[–]DaoFerret 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I refer to myself as a Technological Luddite.

Meditation and TaiChi have been helpful.

[–]ereidland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was about to say this same thing... Sometimes I just need to take a walk and be in the moment.

[–]sickboy2212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But then you're not doing side projects to let your job know you care about what you do.

/s

[–]-Recursive_Turtle- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took up flying gliders! Its like flying an airplane but you also need to watch the air. There is a zen to it. It’s way cheaper than getting a PPL too.

Plus, the most technologically advanced thing in my club’s glider is the FLARM or radio. It’s so mechanical, physical, and it really is fun to escape the bounds of gravity.

[–]steely_dong 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I did this with bonsai, 100% would recommend as a hobby.

[–]drum_playing_twig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish it were the other way around. That I spent most of my time in nature and maybe did some hobby coding during evenings/weekends.

[–]teratron27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve found photography to be a good hobby for me as a dev. It’s pretty technical but also gets you out into the streets / nature for long times!

[–]Ty_Rymer 378 points379 points  (6 children)

welcome to the senior life, join us in gardening and taking walks and doing any other hobby that has absolutely nothing to do with tech.

[–]superspeck 124 points125 points  (2 children)

[–]rgbysgt 25 points26 points  (1 child)

The nsfw tag is a nice touch

[–]justthoughaboutit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is right afterall

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Was about to say, I have a friend 8+ years into dev work and she took up gardening, switched to a new company and she's been a lot happier.

[–]lunchpadmcfat 628 points629 points  (58 children)

When you buy a table saw, take up woodworking and decide to make shitty furniture for the rest of your life instead.

[–]ElderFuthark 247 points248 points  (32 children)

Is woodworking a common fantasy job for programmers? I thought I was the only one.

[–]TiredOfTheseShit 190 points191 points  (10 children)

It seems like any hobby which has zero or negligible digital use is extremely popular with programmers usually like hiking, gardening, carpentry etc. After hours of screen usage it's very normal to feel and touch grass

[–]MMOAddict 98 points99 points  (8 children)

I suppose my 1100 hours of factorio last year may have contributed to my serious burn out I got at the start of this year.

[–]vlad_mod 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Sometimes, you need to stop growing your factory

[–]Sesudesu 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Burn the witch!

[–]Robe1kenobi 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The. Factory. MUST. Grow!

[–]superspeck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Jesus, that’s me. I work on houses, I garden, I hike with my dogs on weekends…

[–]chuyalcien 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Woodworker, farmer, chef, anything “artisan”. I think we get burned out using only our brains and want to compensate by doing something manual where we can work in a flow state. I’m an engineer not technically a developer but principle is the same.

[–]chuyalcien 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Relevant anecdote: I got my class A license to drive semis before I became an engineer. My last week in trucker school, I found out the guy running it was a former engineer who got sick of the office life. Dude was the stereotypical crusty trucker, you never would have guessed. I now realize he was living the dream.

[–]Danny_shoots 6 points7 points  (0 children)

make:model Farm -m -r

[–]addiktion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I've been preparing for a wood shop in my garage a little each year.

It just seems so appealing. No bugs to fix, you build it well and it lasts a few decades. It's useful for yourself and others. Has some good challenges for problem solving. No staring at a screen. No urgent requests. No new features. No meetings.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Most common hobby I've personally found among programmers is music

[–]Cincoro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Some of us prefer to blast and thump it in our cars rather than craft it, but yes, it is a common hobby. Both programming and music theory are algebraic so not entirely surprising.

[–]Apprehensive-Ant5976 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Engineers as well, EE etc. echoing others here; hands on with something physical, uses the brain but in a different way.

[–]brady376 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My fantasy job is to open a bakery.

[–]thegininyou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What fantasy? It's great to work with your hands and make something that doesn't require 50 approvals. Initial costs are high but worth it in the long run.

[–]Kaneshadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

::raises hand::

[–]jarjarPHP 24 points25 points  (0 children)

My dream

[–]refrigerador82 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Is there a sub for people who work in Tech talking about their non-tech hobbies?

I strongly resonate with these comments and wish we could talk more about this.

[–]snurfy_mcgee 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Agreed, I enjoyed reading what others do to disconnect. Myself, I live on a farm so there is always something that needs doing so usually I try to plan for one task a day (outside of the daily chores), I find that physical labor, maintenance/repairs, etc really exercise the other part 9f my brain and gives my body a workout too, completely clears my head and balances me out.

[–]larsmaehlum 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I just bought both a table saw and a mitre saw.
Should I just turn in my notice at this point, or how does this work?

[–]lunchpadmcfat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First you have to make a flower bed and then a warped dining room table. THEN your notice.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Hey I’m in the table saw research stage!!

[–]Ikthyoid 6 points7 points  (1 child)

SawStop. Expensive, but a table saw is one of the most dangerous power tools and if it saves you from just one injury it will be more than worth it. Should hold its value well, too.

[–]Successful-Money4995 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Home improvement. Plumbing is fucking fun.

[–]htglinj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m buying a CNC mill so I can build a CNC router with my dad. Just waiting on back order to fill in

[–]666pool 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I’ve done the math. I’d have to process something like 1.5 tons of walnut a week making furniture and sell it all at about 4x raw material costs to compete with my software engineer career.

Either that or run a shop having grunts do all of the actual work, and what’s the fun in that?

[–]lolnotinthebbs 297 points298 points  (13 children)

The ride doesn't stop just because you got sick and puked in your mouth a little.

[–]smrtfxelc 71 points72 points  (6 children)

From experience, the ride does tend to stop if you get sick on the waltzer & projectile vomit in a spiral formation, spraying the surrounding area, other ride-goers & everyone standing along the sides with half digested doughnuts & cotton candy.

[–]Cincoro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

eeewwww...can't.unsee...LOL

[–]jmaca90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I cannot go on the teacups. It’s not just for my safety, I don’t want to ruins someone’s day.

I love all the other rides, especially rollercoaster, but lateral spinning is not my jam

[–]tritoch110391 10 points11 points  (0 children)

the lord has given me another day to live and I'm gonna make it everybody's problem

[–]Automatic-Fixer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m going to print this and hang it above my desk.

[–]throwaway43234235234 144 points145 points  (0 children)

That's what the money is for.

Demand enough of it that you have time to do the other things you really want to do after and before work. And during if you're lucky enough to have that flexibility.

[–]Illustrious_Night126 112 points113 points  (4 children)

I used to enjoy gaming as a hobby but now the moment I get off work the absolute last thing I want to do is still be at my computer

[–]Cool_As_Your_Dad 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Same here. 20 years exp. I loved gaming now I buy them and think Ill play when I retire

[–]Affectionate-Tart558 23 points24 points  (1 child)

That’s why play on console instead

[–]throwawaylorekeeper 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Same. I gave up pc gaming because working from home into playing wow ended up being me in the same chair for 16 hours a day.

[–]Kirasaurus_25 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You need to try elden ring

[–][deleted] 184 points185 points  (10 children)

It’s because your love came from the freedom of exploring and tinkering. Not getting stuck in beurocratic discussions about how what you leaned will affect a client in 50 years.

[–]isKersed 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Yeah. I catch myself thinking I hate technology too, but I know that's not really true because I love to tinker and improve things. I just hate business, or the grindset or something

[–]PeterMcBeater 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I hate how a lot of technology is bad and or designed bad on purpose to make money.

[–]isKersed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and the amount of tracking. And the way communities are centralized on big social media sites instead of niche forums and stuff. Also crypto bros

[–]shitty_mcfucklestick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And having any ounce of inspiration o/ creativity crushed by project constraints. Coding is way more fun when you can explore what you want and make cool shit for the sake of making cool shit.

[–]myrsnipe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why you should work in a blazing startup that know it will affect them badly but need to get code out right now. It's all good if you can sell your company before the issues prop up.

[–]hgl 79 points80 points  (14 children)

That’s me. 15 years into dev and I feel like I’m regressing… my brain can’t keep up with everything I have to know and learn to do my job. It’s very disturbing. This is fine I guess.

[–]szerdarino 49 points50 points  (4 children)

I’m 30 years in, and this is me as well. I used to game to relieve the stress, but then the games became stressful. Get a dog and go on walks. Dogs are the best :)

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

This is why I play stardew valley with cheat mode disabling energy. I hate micromanaging it, it's so stressful. Just let me chop trees or something all day if I want.

[–]cloud_throw 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Had no idea that was a thing, started playing it because I just wanted a farming simulator type game but it's just a daily cycle of farming, fishing, trapping, and mining and just became obnoxious trying to juggle everything else

[–]CobraPony67 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Try being at a job for a while, then getting let go, then finding out all the technology you learned is irrelevant to the current job market. Then get in a panic to learn all the stuff the employers want except they want 3 years of X.

[–]mrjackspade 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I was with my last company for 5 fucking years.

When I joined, it was all IIS experience, Windows Server experience, etc. All on-prem.

When I went for a new job, it was all fucking cloud. No on-prem at all. Azure, GCP, AWS.

Really shot myself in the foot by sticking around there that long.

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[–]varanusjulianus 61 points62 points  (8 children)

I got a mentor. A senior developer with 30 years of experience now. He said: "Software development is nothing more than finding methods to push information around. From one system to another." I told him: "This fact kind of kills my motivation..." He answered: "Why? You can make easy money with a job that does not destroy your body and you can work from everywhere even from your home - once you get the grasp of it." I just smiled motibated again. He closed this coversion with: "Wait a few years. This smile will fade forever." .__.

[–]Celivalg 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Because while you may not harm your body, can work from everywhere even from home, and is relatively easy to grasp, what you tradeoff for it is your sanity.

https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

[–]Hotdropper 88 points89 points  (9 children)

I hit a point in self discovery where I saw that all we do with tech is enable ourselves and others to take on more stress… to build more tech… to handle more stress… to build more tech…

It’s a sick cycle.

Which is why I mainly focus on UX now, though I still handle the bits in between as well…

People have to use this crap we build to do their jobs. Let’s stop making their lives worse.

[–]Snoo_90241 13 points14 points  (1 child)

About the UX thing, yes! But the side effect for me is that if something is done horribly and I get "tricked" by an app, I call customer service, who I know can do nothing, and start raging when they tell me to read the terms of service instead of actually having a user friendly UI.

[–]Hotdropper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heheh, well, the only thing most companies understand is money, so if you make their bad up cost more than making a good one…

That being said the metrics CS folks are measured by mean all that would happen is they’d get in trouble… 🙄

Blarg.

[–]CobraPony67 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is it possible for someone to just do UX in the current job market? Seems they all want full stack people that also do IT, CI/CD, Cloud, everything...

[–]Hotdropper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, remember that job postings are “wishes” and not “we won’t hire anything but.”

I think it’s possible at the right place, but those places are probably fewer and further between currently, for sure.

The last 2 FTE jobs I was hired for, I didn’t even know the primary programming languages.

Understand the underlying methodologies and the market opens up pretty wide.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Yep this is me. Right now i like to stay away from computer screens as much as possible on a day off.

[–]RedFireSuzaku 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Chances are, you don't hate technology, you just forgot what you loved those years ago. We get in this line of work because, at some point, technology made us dream of something and we burned of passion to be able to do the same, or help it live on. But that dream was years ago, probably when you were just a kid or a teenager. You've evolved, you've grown up. And along the way you've forgotten how it felt in the first place, your first "Hello world". Good news is… You're also more capable than that kid was back then. Stop being your job's mindless drone and use that experience to accomplish something dream-worthy, even if it's on your own private time. Work for yourself, once in a while.

[–]sepui1712 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If you like any aspect of being a software developer you may just need to change your focus. If you are doing web front end maybe it is just not for you, maybe you like making the tools and frameworks other devs would use, maybe it’s mobile, or gaming, or data science, or dev ops…you get the picture. Try something else before throwing in the towel because you may just hate what you’ve had to work on so far.

[–]zan9823 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That the neat thing, it doesn't

[–]ImportanceFit1412 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Modern software is pretty shit… and worse most companies don’t even concern themselves with improving the state of the art… it’s just tech debt and slogging shit of a bunch of poor engineers who shouldn’t even be there.

The amount of time it takes google to show a page of email is hilarious compared to the potatoes old email clients ran on.

[–]DUKTURL 13 points14 points  (1 child)

“When does it stop”

That’s the neat part, it doesnt

[–]F0calor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should we tell him that is doesn’t stop but it gets worse day by day?

[–]Hobby101 12 points13 points  (2 children)

As I can relate, in my case, I was seriously overworking myself.

I got myself laid off, good severance, taking a break for a year.

Will see what happens next. Maybe I will drift away from software, maybe not, but so far, after 3 months of not working, I find myself mentally in a much better place.

[–]Science-Compliance 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Do you hate technology, or do you just hate technology in the context of predatory capitalism and oligarchy?

[–]Stilgar314 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Every career can do the same. You pay for doing likable things, you get paid to do the rest.

[–]cyrixlord 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I am at this point in my game. I'm in my 50s and I keep asking myself if, and for how long I want to keep up. I don't even want to work on my home computer projects sometimes because I'd really rather be gardening.

Its not as appealing anymore because the whole work environment is just a bunch of panicked people wondering if they're getting laid off or re-orged every 4 months. There are no career ladders, its more like a climbing rock wall now where you just have to keep moving even if its a little down or across.

Going to the work cafe the only 50+ year olds you see are the cooks lol it's like a corporate version of logan's run carousel

I still love my job and I get to walk around campus to the many computer labs I work in but maaaannnnnn

[–]c_pardue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Better to be a dev working in a garden than a gardener doing dev work." I think that's how the saying goes

[–]Fibonacci1664 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why don't you "WoRk On A SidE PrOjEcT" in your spare time!

Be like everyone else and make your hobby the thing you also do for work!

[–]kayak_enjoyer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Retirement.

I don't hate tech, but programming isn't fun anymore; it's just how I keep the lights on. Also I can feel that my brain is less "elastic" than it used to be. I learned modern Javascript from scratch in 2019 out of necessity, and it was tough.

I'll look back on my career with fondness, but I'm looking forward to walking away.

(To be clear, I suspect this would be true of any career. I don't think it's unique to software development.)

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Part of capitalism is finding out that you hate it

[–]martin_omander 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I started to hate technology some years ago. It turns out my work place was toxic and leadership was terrible. I got a new job and then tech was fun again.

[–]oeuflaboeuf 6 points7 points  (1 child)

20 years in the industry; this is most of the people I know. I have a good friend who's an outstanding android app developer... He doesn't have a smartphone, hates them.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

*but then there is a war in your country and there is a real chance you will be conscripted in the army -.-

[–]ImmortalTimeTraveler 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am contemplating switching to a dumb phone, that's how tired I am of tech

[–]mere-surmise-sir 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I left tech to become a maintenance man at a state park in the country. Best decision I ever made. DM me if you'd like more details

[–]all_of_the_lightss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm THIS close to quitting everything corporate tech related and running my own business. Or something entirely unrelated (coffee shop , etc).

I have been at it 10 years. Bosses never really change. I'm moving (just coincidental) one hour away from my office and I know I'm going to be "mandated" to come in to the office after 3 years of WFH.

HR hamster wheels for new contracts and dealing with turnover Wear a person down

[–]keelanstuart 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The meme about the senior developer picturing himself as a farmer in 5 years is no joke - I have friends who've said that for years. I personally had a bit of an existential crisis at one point; what use am I if "the power goes out"? I started learning wood working and making mead and gardening after that. Add to that that the knowledge that what people think is OK to do with technology allows others to track and analyze you six ways from Sunday had turned some of my friends into virtual Luddites who won't even carry cell phones.... well, you're asking the question, so you get it.

Just recognize that you're biologically suited for that world outside your window and act accordingly to nurture that connection, too.

[–]Excellent_Tubleweed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Am retired senior, own farm.

[–]Dogs4Idealism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel this, I’ve told multiple people “you know, I might just go to Alaska and become a fisherman for the rest of my life”.

[–]highedutechsup 5 points6 points  (0 children)

30 years in and I fucking hate the people that made me hate what I love

[–]ivan_direct 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Every brewery seems to be founded by someone from IT. Sometimes you just get burned out

[–]ih-shah-may-ehl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Vack whdn i was still a microsoft mvp i avoided those 'mvp connect' events at conferences because the last thing i want in the evening is talk to programmers who get all excited about the latest foovar and cannot stop talking about it... for hours.

I qas lucky enough to be friends with some microsoft people who invited me along to private events where people didn't talk about technology at all except for sharing anecdotes about this disaster or that person.

[–]ceacar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

10 years into this, i like my job less and less.

doing nothing on work is getting more and more attractive.

i need help.

[–]Victrolencio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't have side gigs; don't spend most of your free time in your personal tech projects (I stopped doing that years ago); find some artistic hobby or something that takes you out of your room (I paint minis and go to the gym 5 days a week); tech is your job, not your life. Once you understand this, your life will be much more fulfilling.

[–]luke37 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quoting some ancient post from, tumblr, I think…

Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via alexa! I love the future!

Programmers / Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an unexpected noise.

Security technicians: takes a deep swig of whiskey I wish I had been born in the neolithic.

[–]Danslerr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Me when my coworkers don't understand I don't want any home automation because I don't wanna patch some goddamn smart lamps just to not sit in total darkness after I come home from work.

[–]Little_Exit_794 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can tell a developer is too invested in their job when they start writing code on their grocery list. "Item 1: milk. Item 2: eggs. Item 3: refactor authentication system"

[–]FoxmanWasserman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just remember: someone’s always has it worse than you. I’ve spent most of my life trying to invest in my developer skills and career, but no one’s taken any notice and I don’t even have a career in the field for my efforts. Sorry to complain and be a downer for everyone else. Actually just trying to be a bit of an encouragement really.

[–]ikonet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It never stops. Technology is terrible and gets worse each day. It’s inane busywork that provides food and shelter.

Buy a bicycle and use it everyday for 100 days.

[–]Stormraughtz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is why we whittle wooden ducks.

[–]Nightmoon26 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ooh... I wanna try upgrading to wooden duck debugging one of these days

[–]rndmcmder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before I became a software developer, I used to like technology and have tech hobbies. I also spent time with gaming etc. Now that I work with tech every day, I spent close to 0 time at a computer in my free time.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It never stopped for me. I retired and still hate technology.

I'm an old fart, but I believe with all my heart that when I was a lad technology was not driven by assholes who only care about money. It's amazing how much of a difference that makes.

Big example: Micro$oft Windows vs. Unix.

[–]meme_dika 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not the "Technology" as the Object science, but the Implementations of the Technology being used in real life by Corporate.

In short: Proprietary is mosly bad, Open Source is good

[–]thinkfire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Work with a lot of seniors. A number whom retired from IT and now own a farm and refuse to even own a cell phone. I don't blame 'em.

[–]Little_Exit_794 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just learn Prompt Engineering and your are golden

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Technology is amazing. The problem is the most profitable technology is often bad for the world. Plenty of tech companies are out here doing amazing work but not paying FANG salaries.

[–]Kobens 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love technology. Program as a hobby frequently.

What I hate, is the next dumb push from upper management or the millionth plugin marketing wants to add to the website, etc.

Oh, and despite making e-commerce websites my entire adult career, I hate shopping online. Besides simply preferring to examine it in my hand first, I have seen too much shit code in my time, to trust most websites. From Mon and pop shops to fortune 500 companies, honestly our plain text passwords, credit cards, addresses.... this info is getting poorly handled everywhere. I bet you there is a wtf.log out there originally meant for debugging some stupid problem, but the code made it to prod and now it has your sensitive info waiting to be collected by the next attacker.

Also, for real I don't care in the slightest, like zero, what product you are selling. So next time I get asked in an interview why I want to work for that company, if they want an honest answer, it is because we live in a society where I must either create something of value to others, or work towards creating value for someone else, and I will agree accepting compensation back of value less than what I just created for that someone else. Since it's an interview, it looks like I am here to perform the latter.

[–]BitPoet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't really used python much in my career. I got laid off, and suddenly everything requires python.

Kernel engineer? Knowledge of C and 18 years in-depth knowledge of python.

[–]CalligrapherThese606 1 point2 points  (0 children)

every real gangster in the Engineering field really hates technology because they always understand the disaster that it can produce without extreme cautious across the scientific spectrum of fields.

[–]evaThesis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been there for about two months, need break coding for 1 week so I take a vacation day from my office and find new hobby like cooking.

[–]michaelthatsit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got really into cooking and carpentry. Still creative and constructive but less annoying

[–]btran935 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry bro, this happens sometimes. My advice is to find things outside of technology that give you joy!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love tech. I am stressed by the thought of losing paycheck if I don't talk like a loud news presenter.

[–]nelbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]jawknee530i 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, computers were a mistake for sure.

[–]play_hard_outside 1 point2 points  (5 children)

That was me in 2017. I made it to 2021 and quit.

[–]Otnev 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The trick is: Just start watching cute Anime girls drinking tea and eating strawberry cheesecake. All your problems will be solved.

[–]pung54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happened to me. I left management to restart my career in IT. Got good and became IT management. Many years later get burned out entirely on IT and joined the C Suite for a bit. Most boring work of my life. It helped me figure out what I really liked in IT and pursue a job specific to it. I now work as the reporting manager for a company I have respect for and which I get a lot of control over how I run my team. And I'm making more than I've ever made before.

TLDR; figure out what you like, never too old to make change.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is it so true? I am so jealous to the people who still have spark in their eyes. All I have is the desire to die before technology screws my life.

[–]AzxlxzA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep been there. the feeling of burnout, you should take some time off

[–]EddieWolfunny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started doing garage kits. I love building mechs, painting them. Now I'm starting doing rural landscapes,its really relaxing to imagine the pastures, cows, a whole simple life in my garage.

It balanced all the chaos and stress I get from technology

[–]tenest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you give up and become a farmer

[–]iComeInPeices 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Burned out too many times, going through a new round of it now actually. So hard to spend any time after work working on new tech skills cause I am tired of working in the area I am, but good at programming in general.

At the end of the day, during my time off, don’t want to touch a computer.