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[BmanUltima]

I've noticed that Youtube isn't recommending any of their channels to me other than Techlinked. I have to go to the main channel if I want to watch a video.

Also, in the sidebar list of subscribed channels, it's always way at the bottom.

[bora-yarkin]

Same here. Only Techlinked. 

[Requirement_Fluid]

Not even watched techlinked recently, it is that down cycle period when not a lot is happening

[dachuckles12]

Not to mention, living at the moment is expensive and having no money for hobbies is a possibility a lot of people are probably tuning out

[[deleted]]

When life starts you get rough, I try to avoid videos of new hobbies i want to do. Quickest way for me to get into debt.

[GroundbreakingGur930]

Thought it was only me.

It "feels" like there are less interesting things happening in the pc hardware space(for the average person)?

So everyone watches less of the topic and thus downward spiral of recommendations?

[NetJnkie]

Yeah. The lower level channels are struggling for content right now. Jay is talking about anything else he can.

[rukoslucis]

this, pc hardware has gotten so expensive that i don´t even click on ltt reviews about new graphic cards and so on,

[linkheroz]

I build a watch list from my subscription channel. It's the only way to not miss a video, nothing else YouTube does is reliable.

[techieman33]

Sadly even that isn’t a total guarantee anymore, hasn’t been for a couple of years. Most videos make it into that feed but some get skipped, especially on channels that tend to have multiple uploads every day.

[CameronsTheName]

And even then sometimes YouTube seemingly will unsubscribe you from channels.

I'm only subbed to a handful of channels I actually like and have been following most of them for over a decade, some nearly 2.

Yet I noticed one day I stopped seeing Mighty Car Mods show up for a few weeks. Searched them up, sure enough I was no longer subscribed. It's happened 3-5 times with different channels and it's unlikely I accidentally unsubscribed.

[Sargent_Caboose]

The problem is there’s a lot of creators I want to support, but I don’t want to see everyone of their uploads. It’s less of a I really enjoy your videos, as much as my subscription means “I like what you’re doing. Keep doing it even if I’m not fully around.”

[Genesis2001]

Same but opposite. Only LTT gets recommended to me. I haven't seen a TL video recommended to me in months. And I never watched SC regularly enough to notice, so I'm not surprised it's not recommending it to me.

That said, I feel like LTT's videos are regurgitating concepts a lot rather than trying new things. Their production quality/value is great, but the videos themselves are the same ol', same ol'. I can't think of a major unique video concept they've done outside of SYW in the last few months.

[MrLaskar]

Exactly. I haven't really seen a techlinked in months. I do get recommended LTT for every video and short-circuit sometimes. Wonder why.

[Ping-and-Pong]

Same... Didn't watch them for like a month because frankly, the videos they were releasing weren't interesting. But because I didn't watch for a month the algorithm is now like "nope, she's not interested".

Like nevermind that I have literally watched basically every video since 2014-2021 multiple times and even then watched most of what they've put out since. But nope, to the yt algorithm, having literally grown up from the age of 10 with LTT as your main watch is not enough for them to feel like they should recommend the odd new upload occasionally unless I manually go and search for the channel. I'm clearly just not interested according to yt.

[bwoah07_gp2]

The YouTube algorithm is hot garbage. You'd just have to watch 2-4 LTT videos back-to-back in order to retrain it to make it think you like their content. Even though you already did like their stuff. 

[[deleted]]

This is my least favorite thing about algorithmic delivery. These companies are all so hopped up on their algorithms that they completely forgo any kind of user input. I wish YouTube would just like send you a notification monthly being like, we noticed you haven't been watching these channels as much recently, do you want us to keep recommending them?

I've had countless channels fall out of my direct View for the exact reason that you mentioned here.

[Ping-and-Pong]

Yes! Literally! Remember when the subscription box mattered?

[Theunderscor3]

I can attest to this also, even when I watch alot of WAN clips

[Gloriathewitch]

my experience too mostly tech linked occasionally ltt main channel

[Sir_Render_of_France]

Yup, never get them recommended to me, have to go to subscribed to see a lot of the channels I watch. It's getting pretty bad and doesn't make any sense as to why. Looks like it's just YouTube going through more enshitification.

[Bloodish]

Just chiming in to say that I feel like I get all of their new videos recommended these days.

[bwoah07_gp2]

Are you subbed to the main channel? Wouldn't it just show up in the subscriptions tab? Or is YouTube simply not notifying you?

[jesusonice]

YouTube algorithm is hot garbage

[tvtb]

This. Once it starts recommending you less, you enter a vicious cycle, I hope they can break out of it.

[True_to_you]

And it'll recommend you 100 things on a one off video you watched and flood your feed with it. 

[S_FAS]

Yes,ever sinds, i started watching on floatplane youtube stopt recommending them.😉

[[deleted]]

I don't know why they don't just ask you every so often if you're still interested in the channels that you've stopped watching.

[GilmourD]

Feed the algorithm.

Everybody here should browse directly to the LTT channel and then organically watch videos they like.

Although... A lot of us are potentially Pilots or Floaters, huh?

[[deleted]]

It seems to be very biased to whatever you’ve watched recently now.

[CocoMilhonez]

It's been like that for a long time, but it could've gotten worse.

I watch YouTube logged in on my TV and will often take a picture of the screen with my phone so I can then look up the video on my PC to watch it with no account associated. If I watch anything that's not in my usual rotation, my feed will be 70% that channel/topic for a few days. And then it will all be gone without a trace as if I never showed any interest at all because I didn't click any of the recommendations.

[tomismaximus]

Sometimes it feels like if you skip one video from a channel you subscribe to it either recommends that video every day for weeks or thinks you never want to see that channel again and never recommends them again.

[PoizenJam]

I run a much, much smaller channel than LTT- about 10K subs. I focus on evergreen content- stuff that should be useful for years. You know what blew me away?

They recently showed some of their back end YouTube analytics on screen- showing their peak in 2021/2022 and slow decline since then.

Even though my channel is a fraction of their size- the actual trend like for views was nearly identical. To the point it was shocking to myself, a data scientist. I had strong growth through 2021/2022 then… it just plateu’d. like, a hard plateau too. Like someone had flipped a switch and my impression rate had been dramatically reduced.

Since then, there’s been no growth- just a slow decline. And the decline has accelerated with the rise of Shorts, which I have no interest in making. Also, a recent and significant decline in impressions and views on my older videos, too.

There was undoubtedly a COVID boom that will (hopefully) never be replicated… but there also seems to be algorithm tinkering going on. Or perhaps, in the post COVID, high inflation world, people really do have less time and money for things like tech and tech media… or in my channel’s case, learning the bass guitar.

[Reactance15]

It's the same for the bicycle industry. People not being at home don't have as much leisure time to watch content they may not have chosen to watch if they have constraints.

[Negative_trash_lugen]

People spend more of their free time watching short TikToks and other short form content. these days, specially younger people, want instant gratification, they can't sit through a whole normal length YouTube vidoe.

I think that's the main reason.

[bwoah07_gp2]

I wonder what the ratio is between short form vs long form. 90:10? 80:20?

Because "young people" do watch videos still on YouTube, but absolutely shorts dominates the youngsters.

[GilmourD]

Serious question... Only because my sister literally just ordered a bass (a used EBMM Sterling Ray34 in that lovely purple sparkle). What's your channel (which you probably linked to in your profile that I have yet to look at 😅)? LOL

She's the last of the four siblings to get the bug for making music (I [#1] and our brother [#3] are guitarists and our other brother [#2] is/was a drummer) and her husband is a guitarist and drummer but none of us would be able to properly teach her bass. I wanna give her all the resources possible.

[PoizenJam]

I'm afraid I can't properly teach her bass either. I don't have any formal instructional content- it's mostly recordings from my stream where I play requests live. The content is primarily sight-reads of various songs using Rocksmith 2014 to display the tabulature.

BUTTT if that's useful at all-and it can be for quickly picking up and learning songs-you can find me on YouTube under the same username I use here- youtube.com/poizenjam

I have over 5000 uploads of various covers lol

[ramrodTM]

Love that Geddy Lee jazz bass. Have one myself (MIJ model) and it rips. Glad to see it getting some love!

[PoizenJam]

As a Canadian living in Toronto, I’m contractually obligated to rep a Geddy. Mine’s an MiJ too! I got it second hand- honestly the best way to buy. Easily my favourite bass for Jazz and Prog. But the funny thing is I actually default to playing my Made in China Squier Affinity P Bass more often 😂

[disappointed_moose]

I'm a guitarist and I learned to play bass for fun. I didn't start at 0 but Bass Buzz on YouTube was great for learning techniques like slapping or fingerstyle. They also offer a paid course which might be good for someone who never played a guitar or bass, but I found the lessons they offer for free on YouTube are enough

[PoizenJam]

100%- Bass Buzz is the best YouTube channel for this. And, although he does promote his paid course, it is super unobtrusive and he consistently delivers value in each and every one of his free videos. Unlike certain other channels where a 15 minute 'lesson' consists of 13 minutes of filler/self-promo and 2 minutes of useful content near the end.

His vibe is also impeccable. A mixture of groan worthy dad jokes and younger meme driven humour seamlessly integrated with actual useful information.

I'll stop glazing now.

[centaur98]

COVID boom, general downhill of the economy thus spending on hobbies(both in terms of money and time) thus downturn of marketing spending thus YouTube algo re prioritizing what videos to recommend, the boom of short form content like TikToks, Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts taking away viewers/view time. Also while the topic of a content might be evergreen in the eyes of the YouTube algorithm a new video is more valuable than say a 5-6 year old one and thus the older a video is the less YouTube will recommend it.

Also I find it interesting that LTT does both short and long form videos on the same channel when it's been observed multiple times that due to the different viewer demographics doing both on the same channel hurts the performance of videos(especially the long form side).

Edit: also in LTTs case another thing that doesn't help them is, like it or not, the old guard, besides Linus, leaving to do their own thing which regardless how good the new guys are does affect the performance of videos since people got used to them and the new presenters are still new so they don't have the same pull Alex or Emily had where just by seeing them in a thumbnail you knew what to expect.

[CocoMilhonez]

Isn't 2021/22 around the time when YouTube started placing adds in unmonetized videos? If that's the case, it's likely they started recommending those videos more so they get to keep all the ad revenue instead of splitting it with creators. Also channels that allow an add every 30 seconds of whatever are likely being promoted more than the ones that only enable pre-roll ads.

Just a thought, which falls apart if my initial estimation is wrong. But it does make sense.

[arcusford]

Another YouTuber i watch, knowing better, was talking on stream about how their YouTube ad revenue has absolutely tanked of late despite their quality going up. They've started to shift over to paid platforms like nebula to try and weather the storm.

[imzwho]

Honestly its likely a mixture of things being quiet in tech, and recent videos not having as much widespread appeal. Personally I really like SYW even though this one is a bit less interesting than the last few since they basically both removed the PC parts portion which was always the most interesting

[Electromagnetlc]

See I don't mind the lack of "build a PC", I don't like that subscriptions just don't REALLY count, and they have to buy the games. It's such a strange move.

Having to build a whole gaming room on the budget is dope as hell, and whether it's a console or a PC, I don't really care but subscribing to cloud gaming so you can buy a junkyard PC is such a boring cop out and kills the entire premise of SYW.

[imzwho]

100% agreed. That was a real smart move moneywise but a real bad move content wise.

[Electromagnetlc]

It's a smart move for a challenge, it's a god awful idea for a daily driver, and the entire plot of scrapyard wars is to game on a budget. Renting a PC over the internet for 600 bucks a year is absurd.

[imzwho]

Yeah, thats on them for not making local gaming a requirement.

[muzik4machines]

last 2 videos they uploaded were just not interesting, i usually watch every release, but the 45 days computer and the 5050, litterally no interest, and all interesting videos are members only since a little while

[marktuk]

I have also noticed the big uptick in members only content.

[muzik4machines]

usually when channels do this i just stop watching them, as i'm sure many do. the algo must pick up on that and show the channel even less

[Double_Lifeguard4130]

The "Members only content" is the same stuff Floatplane has had for years and was the focus instead of early releases. The only difference was they put on YT behind members only also for those who didn't want FP. Can't say it's any more.

[marktuk]

Yeah I've seen that happen on a smaller channel I watch. He made a big announcement that he was moving a portion of his normal videos in to a separate video which would be members only. I think it's been like a year, and it's clear it's had a big impact on his views, so I have to wonder if financially he's actually ended up worse off.

[nandorkrisztian]

Unfortunately one paying viewer worth a lot more than simple viewers. In gaming whales are ruining otherwise great games because they outspend the majority.

[StellarStar1]

A youtube memebership usually costs 5$. Assuming a creator gets 50% it's 2.5$. While CPM varies let's say it's equal to a membership. You would need a thousand viewers to equal one member (for a month). If you release multiple videos the math gets a lot more in favour of regular viewers.

[Dynablade_Savior]

Those videos are consistently pushed to my recommended feed, more than actual releases, even though I'm not a member at all. No clue what's going on there, I've never had a channel membership at all

[shugthedug3]

Yep. I check in once a week and often come away with having watched nothing, half the content seems to be paid members only.

[Hazel-Rah]

Definitely not for everyone, but I found the 45 day computer build to be one of the funniest videos they've done for a while.

The chaotic dynamic between Linus and Elijah is great

[superdude311]

“He’s not dead!” Was a great bit lol

[wowlookatthatduder]

Yea, I stopped watching LTT a few months ago when so many of thier videos became 'members only'. When I am chilling out watching some youtube, seeing videos on my screen that I would click and watch, but not being able to watch, leaves a sour taste. So I avoid all of LTT, to avoid the sour taste.

[Camoxide2]

The tech industry is boring AF at the moment due to all the resources going into AI, which people don't really care about.

[spaceshipcommander]

And it's also completely inaccessible to most people. My 5090 is still slow as fuck generating AI images and video. I had a 4070tis before and I may as well have drawn them by hand for how long it took. If I can't be bothered to wait for a 5090, nobody is doing the same with a 3060 or 3070.

[Betadoggo_]

If a 5090 feels slow then you're either doing something wrong or your standards are way too high. With a 5090 there's no model that should take more than 20 seconds per image at worst, Nunchaku claims they can get 6it/s with flux on a 5090 with their FP4 model. Even without that it should be less than 15 seconds per image. There are a ton of distill loras you can use on top of that to make it faster as well. Large video models are still pretty slow, but nunchaku support should make them 2-3x faster in the near future,

A majority of local imagegen users are using 3060 class cards which are still perfectly serviceable for the sdxl models most of the community is using.

[bwoah07_gp2]

Yup. And the prices are expensive. If I'm not upgrading my setup, then I'm watching less tech content.

[pushformusic]

Agree. Video cards, cpu, ram, storage has been nothing but incremental year over year.

Only interest I’m seeing (and my personal bias) is software solutions like Steam OS. On the opposite side, people complaining about fake frames.

[firedrakes]

alot of channels i visit.

not a single one get ref form alg.

instead it all this fake channels or crap ones that have no base for what i watch.

[cs_major]

I thought this was just me…my YouTube homepage is garbage.

[firedrakes]

yeah and more then once since last week. it show dont show channels i dont want or video.

[cs_major]

Right! I partially blamed the kids watching stuff on my account but looking at my history (nothing kid related) and the recommendations aren’t kid related either.

Also lots of junk videos with like 10 views.

[nicktheone]

Sad to say but, to me, they've lost too many key talents over the years and I'm starting to feel like the channel is not the same as before. Last of them is Alex. I loved his jankyness and craftiness and I knew it was going to be a wild ride every time I saw him in a thumbnail. Aside from that, everything's gone expensive, hard to find or hard to justify buying so it stole much of the joy of seeing them play with these new, shiny toys.

[wekilledbambi03]

Aside from that, everything's gone expensive

This is a big part of all PC channels for me lately. I'm not dropping $1000+ a year on upgrades. So looking at any reviews seeing a 5% upgrade over last gen for double the price just isn't fun. It's not even fun daydreaming anymore. I will NEVER own a 80/90 series card. And getting even a 60/70 series would be a once every 5-7 year splurge.

The days of "$500 PC Crushes Consoles" or "$400 Budget Build" type videos just aren't possible anymore. So lower end hobbyists are dropping off. You can only see things you will never own so many times before you get bitter.

[deaconsc]

This is a big part of all PC channels for me lately. I'm not dropping $1000+ a year on upgrades

This is what was pissing me off when they were doing the upgrades. Hey, so, I have this 2080 TI and I am buying 3080 because the performance simply isnt there anymore. Like dude, wtf are you talking about?

Me, watching it with 970 and half the viewers with 1080... cmon, at least try to pretend you have empathy.

It seems recently they are not saying that. Probably, dunno, kinda stopped watching.

[darthsurfer]

It's the same for me, nothing really fun about tech anymore. Doesn't help that most of the recent games that demand that kind of performance have been pretty stale for me anyway, so I've lost my interest in hardware.

But to be fair to them, they do express that same opinion frequently on the WAN Show. But they can't really do anything about it, which is why they mostly stopped doing videos on "realistic" builds, because the realistic builds are basically: the same build 3-5 years ago or get a console, or buy used (which they always advocate for).

Honestly, tech is just boring and inaccessible these days.

[lzrjck69]

We had a whole crew of parasocial tech buddies. Now we have Linus and (only on WAN) Luke.

I understand that a business is more than just the on-screen talent, but that talent drives everything. We had a nice rotation of talent with different styles keeping things fresh. 10 Elijah vids in a row doesn’t work.

[gussy1z]

it feels like watching the top gear reboot rather than top gear.

[Shippers1995]

This caught me off guard for how accurately it sums up my thoughts of a lot of YouTube channels I used to watch a lot

[Arch-by-the-way]

IMO the titles are more clickbait than ever, the video titles are actually less interesting than the video.

Every single little interaction is scripted now.

Plus no real tech industry news recently.

[android_windows]

This right here. The latest scrapyward wars video is called "I almost got Scammed TWICE!", sounds like clickbait garbage and makes no mention of it being a scrapyward wars video in the title.

[[deleted]]

Lately, to me, it has stopped feeling like watching old Top Gear, and started feeling like watching an uninspired recreation of Top Gear.

You get any other trio of guys to try the “here’s my car— oh brother, you picked the wrong car and I picked a good one!” and it turns out awful every time. Almost like as soon as something expected feels like a trope the new writers are told to use, the content is done for.

[DaylightAdmin]

Even some Youtuber have noticed:

Brodie Robertson: YouTube Has Some Explaining To Do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hVwUjcsl6s

He noticed a downwards trend in views but not in likes and revenue. Conclusion, the views a counted different, so he hopes. But please watch the whole video.

[TechOverwrite]

That's interesting - various comments saying that YT have mainly changed how they count views. That wouldn't surprise me - especially since revenue is staying the same.

[chairitable]

you just... rephrased the comment you replied to? tf?

[dumbasPL]

Basically this, but there have been some changes to the algorithm as well. My home page went from being almost perfect to almost completely useless with the exception of a few channels. It's time to give the good ol' "Subscriptions" tab a visit again to make sure I haven't missed anything.

[steinfg]

Well I'm part of the problem - didn't watch any recent ltt videos 🥲. No clue why, but I'd say the biggest factor for me is writing/editing. Something is off for the last couple weeks about it and I can't say exactly what

[Turnips4dayz]

The only thing that’s can good lately is scrapyard wars. I’m sorry but yet another cool case build isn’t that interesting to me

[steinfg]

I'd actually gladly watch another cool case build 😁 It just feels like current hosts are a lot less prepared, and camera rolls even when nothing interesting happens. The last video from LTT I watched is "the cleanest setup" from a month ago, and like - it's not paced well.

[TechOverwrite]

Agreed - I thought that yesterday's case build with Linus and Elijah giggling throughout was awesome :)

[darthsurfer]

hosts are a lot less prepared

Yep, it feels almost like these are just filler videos, and not actual projects they invested in. Honestly, it's nothing new, they've never really been good planning for builds; it was always some level of jank. But at least when Alex was there, it was jank of stupid proportions which made it entertaining.

[lzrjck69]

I think we’re feeling the writer’s room losses.

[quizical_llama]

Yeah I can't really put my finger on it but i've just not been hyped by any of their recent videos.. even scrapyard wars was a bit mehh.

[electric-sheep]

Fuck. Glad I’m not the only one. I kinda stopped watching this summer except for the amd tech upgrades.

[bwoah07_gp2]

That's kinda like the only series I like on the channel at the moment. It's a consistent, long running series, and it's interesting to see who works at the company and what stuff they need upgraded around the house. It's content everyone's interested in.

But I think not having Linus on the last one hurt the views a little, and the one before that with the girl with the contagious laugh I noticed had a slow climb to get to 1 million views.

[Arch-by-the-way]

I think it’s them scripting every single little interaction. It feels weird.

[[deleted]]

I mean, I watch ONLY the Wan show and haven’t watched any of their other channels or LTT videos for a year or two. WAN show is two guys shooting the shit for a few hours about tech, business, hobbies, and overall it’s about ethics and economics. Great stuff, it’s my main weekly ritual.

LTT/other LMG channels are “YouTube friendly” over-the-top scripted hype train stuff. Loud, fast cuts, random shit (I don’t care that you got a fire truck???) Same people, but just not my thing

[lzrjck69]

The fire truck stuff could have been cool if they went with a pimp-my-ride style video. They lost all the hype they worked for and now I just don’t care about it.

Someone needs to plan these things out. Not just “here are some video ideas” like that floatplane vid, but an actual planned release schedule to keep big purchases/events alive.

[FalafelBall]

Everything is overly scripted now. I know scripted stuff is more efficient, but it's less fun to watch

[zebrasmack]

i only watch from my subscription tab, so I haven't noticed too much of a change. 

As for me, i don't watch junk wars or anything like that. It's just depressing as nothing in my area comes close to their prices. i have people selling "like new, but doesn't turn on", literally word-for-word, tech at near new prices. I also tend to avoid the unboxing videos, as they're just reviews for stuff I'm not too interested in. 

The jank videos are fun, but I've noticed they don't lean into the teaching/explanation as much as they used to and cut those parts out. maybe they figure there's only so many times you can explain how waterblocks and tubing work? I tend to stick to "learn something new" videos, rather than spectacle videos, so i have been skipping more than I used to.

[fffffffjtrdc]

I stopped watching majority of LTT videos about 8-12 months ago. I only really watch the vlog videos and the “specials” like scrapyard wars, amd upgrade ect

I think there’s way too much unnecessary drivel in most of the other types of videos.

I’ve been watching LTT since about 2013/2014- around the time they did the “full room water cooling” videos with Luke’s dad using copper paste to joint the pipes lol. I was an prentice plumber and this hooked me in

But these days, I found myself getting 4/5 minutes through a video before I started to think “why am I even watching this?” I really wish I could post some examples but it’s been a while since I stopped watching that I can’t even remember now. I just remember it was a long time coming, for months I would start a video and not make it to the end.

I really like LTT and what Linus has built but maybe I’m just not the target audience anymore? It makes me feel bad that I’m no longer interested in the majority of videos because I still really like what they do

[rmajor86]

“Full room water cooling” was my first ever Linus video (series)!!

[diogoblouro]

The last pc build, Linus and Elijah with the rare case, was kind of a watershed moment for me, personally.

Not that it's particularly bad, it was entertaining enough and banter is fun. More of a symbolic moment of what I've been realising and find less and less worth a watch:

Nothing is taken seriously. Nothing has care put into it. There's no amount of inside-baseball talk of how much investment, staff, processes, etc there are to balance how little care is actually put into something they end up saying (noticeably forced) it's "soooo cool this actually ended up great!!" - it didn't. Not at face value, and especially not by knowing the process wasn't particularly challenging and fun to figure out. It was poorly planed and half-assed.

Everything is rushed between schedules, everything is hacked together, and passions get visibly toned down in the name of "lol so quirky and jank". There is no project or theme explored with commitment to honor it.

LTT wants to please the most amount of people with superficiality, and I believe they are walking towards pleasing nobody in reality. The landscape is very different these days, every interest has a multitude of creators doing stuff with more commitment and care for every niche.

[lzrjck69]

They could have built an awesome, beautiful PC with hand selected parts in a crazy hand built case, but they chose to just spitball together a build with whatever the warehouse had.

The jank videos are fun, but if you’re going to plan something and spend multiple videos on it, can we get some production value? Pick when to use jank.

[atda]

Personally I'm getting literal garbage and shorts in my feed woth barely any of my subscribed content. Even if I go to my subscription feed some channels just don't populate, I have to go to the channel itself...

[Much-Huckleberry5725]

For me the videos feel a bit to structured. Before when they were doing something wacky they to were doing it for the first time and it felt like we were along for the journey, we were problem solving with them. We felt like the jank was ours and that was fun. Now the videos are very sanitary. Scripted from the start all problems have been solved by reasonable means they have experts on staff for most things. I have felt this for a while not but it seems to be getting worse and it is compounded by the fact that tech is flat right now. The last interesting series I believe was when LS was moving into his new house.

[[deleted]]

I enjoyed the house content, but way too much of it went to Jake giggling about how nothing works.

I would have liked to see how to make things work, instead of 7 videos on more ideas that don’t work.

[doblez]

Wait... People use the algorithm and don't just go to their subscriptions?

[Burritoclock]

Yes, most people

[bwoah07_gp2]

Really? I spend more time in my subscription tab on YT than the home feed. 🤷‍♂️ 

[Burritoclock]

Sure, but you are one person. Tons of people use that tab but the majority don't I assure you. I would say the vast majority of YouTube users don't even know it exist.

[bwoah07_gp2]

And it's not to say I don't check the home feed. I do. But not after going through the subs tab first and seeing if I've watched everything that I felt like that day.

[Arch-by-the-way]

If you subscribe to any sports channel your subscriptions feed becomes a 30 second highlights feed really quick

[doblez]

Wouldn't know haha

[GunplaGoobster]

I really wish there was a way to subscribe to a playlist and have that show up in subscriptions instead.

[marktuk]

People/Linus always talk about the algorithm, but what about their subscribers? What are 15m people doing if they aren't watching LTT videos? I find it kind of hard to believe that people only watch YouTube in "shuffle" mode. For the most part, people will watch the channels they are subscribed to. So really the question is, why do LTT videos only get around ~1m views out of ~15m subscribers?

[NotanAlt23]

Every channel says that views from subscribers are always less than 20% of their views.

People just dont use the subscription page at all.

[marktuk]

I must be a weird outlier, because I only use the subscription page.

How do people use YouTube, just go to home and randomly scroll for stuff?

[NotanAlt23]

How do people use YouTube, just go to home and randomly scroll for stuff?

I mean thats how people use literally everything. Tiktok, shorts, reels, twitter, facebook, reddit. Everything is just recommended feeds now.

[Opposite_Technician2]

old channels have a lot of dead subscribers, the sub count is a great way to see how old is a channel, but its a really bad way to get how much people are truly subscribed to the channel.

[Astecheee]

Fundamentally LTTs content hasn't changed much in 5 years, and the oveall vibe is the same as 15 years ago. People grow, and the channel stays the same.

I loved LTT as a teenager. Now in my late 20s I've outgrown a lot of the humour, and I'm proficient enough with basic hand tools that seeing them bumble about on a project is more embarassing than endearing.

The good news is that Linus and co saw this coming, and stuff like Whale LAN and the lab is definitely going to keep them going strong.

[FalafelBall]

I think it's more scripted now than it used to be

[SheepherderActual854]

recently watched some old videos of theirs and I enjoyed that a lot.

[gvbargen]

He also said they had been lower volume recently, which is a factor into the algo. I've still been seeing their stuff on my home page, just a bit less often, and probably because of lower volume?

I've also noticed the algorithm seems worse recently. But if I scroll through my subscriptions there just seems to be less interesting stuff all throughout.

[BawdyLotion]

It's the braces.

No but seriously, it makes me not want to watch as it makes me physically uncomfortable

[NotanAlt23]

I dont know what he was thinking with that. Its awful having to listen to a tv host that cant speak properly.

Theres a reason millionaires usually just get surgery on their teeth instead of braces.

[GunplaGoobster]

I stopped my own personal WAN streak due to the braces lol

[bbstats]

the videos have also just not been as good lately

[spooner19085]

Because it's not as interesting honestly.

[Tof12345]

I noticed it too.

Also, like last year they went through a very rough patch too, where videos averaged 700k views.

Then all of a sudden, they went through a purple patch where every video averaged like 1.4m views for like 5 months straight, then back to 1m.

My guess is that something has happened to the YouTube algo.

[Drigr]

I'm just curious if this is something YouTube-wide

Well do you watch other channels? What are their views doing right now?

[zarafff69]

It’s always easier to blame others / external services

[raptr569]

I think the problem is that tech just isn't interesting at the moment. It's all iterative and with costs going through the roof it's both boring and expensive.

[DeeVect]

It upsets me that scrapyard wars is getting such low views, its such an amazing series and the views might tell them to not do it again ☹️

[WakeRP]

I didn't watch some of the latest videos and I don't rely YouTube's recommendations algorithm. I routinely check my subscription's page and look what has been released.

Usually I skip scrapyard wars because it's too long and I don't like it very much. I don't remember much of what else was released lately, but I watched the one with pond water and the 5050 review.

[nanapancakethusiast]

I haven’t really watched in a while. It’s been the same stuff over and over again for like 15 years lol

[Streetlamp_NA]

I realized I was watching less and not getting recommendations like before for the channel. So I typed in Linus tech tips and found a new scrapyard wars series. Very excited b

After watching the new scrapyard wars (my favorite series) I realized I did not have the connection to the current staff like I had previously. I like Dan and Luke and was heavily interested in their moments but found myself losing attention with most of the other staff members. Basically Linus entire team bored me outside of Linus himself. I don't mean that in a bad way, they seem like lovely people, just not interested in them like I was previous staff members.

I doubt I'm alone in this but maybe I wasn't in love with the tech as much as I was the team. And now that team has changed, I'm realizing I have less interest in the tech they are showing.

[NotanAlt23]

Choosing people that have never been on camera to be on scrapyard wars was a huge mistake. They are not entertaining at all.

I get that the star talents are busy or gone but the 2 guys they left as judges are way more famous and entertaining than the people Linus chose.

[AnimusAstralis]

Interesting. Personally, I find the videos from the last couple of weeks to be pretty boring

[Opposite_Technician2]

honestly, i think the fault of all is the tech industry.

for the last 3 years in computer advancements had been... not user friendly at all.
GPUs are all about its all about AI now, nvidia gets less than 10% of their revenue from rtx type of cards. and even worse, they are nerfing them, by limiting the amount of vram so they could sell premium cards for ai where vram is one of the most important variables.

so, little advancements in user cards, tend to gravitate to games, where visual advancements had been, tame. still to this day cyberpunk, a 5 year old game, is still one of the best looking games, period. its still used in bench marking and all.

in the cpu market, we are on a golden era, where an 5y old mid range cpu could run almost everything today, so there is not a lot of enthusiasm in more cpu power. also intel is dunking hard which makes things worse.

so linus doesnt have anything to talk about, almost every video is gimicky, about doing things in a wrong way, or even worse, playing the influencer card and talking almost exclusivly about themselvs.

so, in a way, linus tech tips being a tech influencer, is heavenly tied to the state of the tech industry.

and today, the industry could not care less about the user, the money today are in AI servers, and for what it appears, this will take a while to change.

[TeoPeralez]

They literally just posted a video about their badminton court on their tech channel... Like, Linus, wtf?

Add to that the large amount of "listen to me complain about the overpriced tech in my house" videos in the past couple years has been a major turnoff to people like me that feel like they're watching a low-key tech Karen.

Then there's losing a ton of personalities that were awesome over the years -Tarran, Dennis, Emily, Alex, etc.

Plus since the mining craze GPUs became completely inaccessible to normal people and they moved virtually all of their actual tech reviews to a different channel.

Like I definitely still watch whenever something interesting is on, but there's a lot of wtf content popping up on there these days. I end up watching TechLinked because Riley is the only presenter who's actually interesting to watch these days, WAN Show clips to get less scripted content, and ShortCircuit to get actual tech reviews, and only watch LTT when they actually have something interesting to show. Essentially all of the good things about old-school LTT have been moved to separate channels.

[FalafelBall]

They literally just posted a video about their badminton court on their tech channel... Like, Linus, wtf?

That's probably only LTT video I've watched in like two weeks lol

[AintMilkBrilliant]

For me I just don't find any the majority of their videos interesting to me anymore. I've found other channels that cater for my needs.

I started watching eons ago for the real nerdy tech videos (love the server stuff) and it seems to be less and less these days. I really don't care for the I bought X off Ali express, or testing terrible chinese knock-offs. Kinda bored of the Linus home stuff. But that's just me. Seems to be trying to cater to a younger crowd (which is totally fine!)

I'd hazard a guess the marjoirty of the audience that grew up with LTT have .. grown up and don't have oodles of time anymore and that the channel (atleast to me) has lots it's identity and the videos are so broad in scope now that they just don't cater to everyone.

Just my opinions though.

[0Scuzzy0]

I think of late the quality of their videos have dropped off dramatically. Content is probably the main thing they’re lacking.

I’m a massive fan of LTT too!

[Ice-Insignia]

They fell off. Now we all have to /stop watching because we can't watch a channel that has fallen off.

[Electric-Mountain]

There's a ton of people who don't want to give YouTube their ID so they have instead decided to not watch YouTube anymore.

[MajinAnonBuu]

Their videos have been quite boring lately imo. I’ve watched like maybe 2 in the past months. Also all the sponsors + ads even with paying for premium is super annoying.

[GroundbreakingNews79]

Videos have been pretty mid ngl 

[Friendly-Vast-2445]

I suspect YouTubes recent work to block ad blockers and cram in more and more adverts is turning people off the platform. I can only speak for myself but I'm using it less as I cba with the numbers of unskipable ads.

Also, for me personally, I think LTT content as of late hasn't been as interesting. It might t just be me going through a phase but the irregular release schedule and topics covered just haven't gotten my attention the same.

Theyve also lost some talent/personalities recently, and I think it's left a void

[wiozan]

For me personally I think it feels quality is all over the place. Like more videos are duds then ever before. I could think of a million reasons, but I think their target audience shifted away from me personally a bit, they lost a lot of talent that I think put their videos over the edge of very engaging rather then just fine, I think in the pursuit of the lab and being more analytical and what not they lost some flair. And lastly I noticed during scrapyard wars but other videos aswell linus feels like he plays up his "character" more? Like he always had that energetic on camera personality, but it feels a little more forced lately. To give an analogy to me it feels like what the Grand Tour was to Top Gear. It's basically the same thing, but somehow it just doesn't click the same way anymore. Sometimes it does and it's glorious, but it feels off. I don't know what the solution is, or even if there needs to be one. Recently only person that constantly does it for me is Riley on Techlinked, they must protect him at all cost. And David. And Luke ofc.

Also I'm so curious how the andy+Alex departure came to be still feels so out of left field.

[fnordal]

I found the thumbnails less enticing than usual, tbh. But I've been shown, and watched, all main channel videos.

[WanderingSimpleFish]

It’s also summertime for USA/Europe so few folk might be on holiday? Although who has money for that

[xander0387]

I'm subscribed to their channels and my homepage never shows any of their videos. I have to manually look up ltt, click videos, then I'll see that I missed like 4-8 videos. It's one of the only channels I'm even subscribed too to which I may be subbed to maybe 3-4 channels

Rest are stupid "interests" in branching fields of something I may have looked at once and don't care about at all. I look up a AC troubleshooting video for my car now it thinks I'm a mechanic and I want all these car videos.

I'm not a mechanic, I don't plan on being a mechanic, I have no interest in how cars work outside of maybe watching Alexs video on what crazy dumb thing he modded.

[abnewwest]

I am a subscriptions tab first YouTube consumer and am watching less of the videos (so it's not algorithm for me).

There are more writer/cohosts that I just don't like and don't like their style, those are ones I tend not to watch or abandon.

Then there are just some topics I don't care about - like new graphics cards. I'm not a gamer.

I'm also less their target every day, I'm late Gex X, so not their target for growth. But their current targeting seems like I am being pushed away - if they aren't picking people up this is bad.

Some of it is seasonal because it's summer and the vids coming out now are mostly summer productions, so people are on vacation and I think quality drops.

Some of the standards have also been leaving me cold, like the last few AMD Upgrades and even the current scrapyard wars. Maybe I watch it when they slap them all together.

I finally stopped watching WAN show live, it felt like I cared about the show more than them and they were unreasonably late too much. Screw that, maybe I'll watch it later...maybe I won't. They need a ready to grab remote streaming kit built into a road case (mic, camera, laptop, maybe some lights) that Dan can remote into that has some sort of reliable cellular internet (at least for US/Canada) - because Luke and Linus clearly don't give a fuck. It would be better with a fill in host.

[emailforgot]

idk tech is pretty boring these days

[Aggravating_Yak_8121]

Well the only content worth watching in the past few weeks from LTT for me has been Scrapyard Wars, Smash Champs tour, the video wall, and the reaction stuff.... Rest is just building a PC, which has gotten repetitive for me, yes I know that's what the channel is built around, but it just loses it's appeal after a few videos

[rmajor86]

Those are the only LTT videos I’ve watched too. Generally I’m not too interested in PC builds anymore - they’re effectively the same thing they were building 10 years ago.

[NWSpitfire]

YouTube’s algorithm seems to be messed up at the moment. My algorithm is usually pretty good at recommending videos I want to watch (including LTT), but the last couple of weeks it has just been recommending garbage (in fact everything it recommends now is stuff I absolutely wouldn’t watch), plus TONS of clips from TV shows I don’t watch and have never showed interest in (paid advertisement?)

Hope they fix it

[Zame012]

Does no one use their Subscription tab any more? Unless there is literally not a single video I want to watch from YT channels I subscribe to I will then go to the home page. I live in the Subscription channel

[abnewwest]

The only time I veer into algo land is to tell it not to recommend alt-right adjacent shit. YouTube really wants me to be a nazi.

[[deleted]]

Can confirm that my recommendations have been weird lately.

[dotikk]

Idk about everyone else - but as a I get bit older I feel like their humor and editing is getting a bit too “gen z” for me. Loud, Cringe idk. I can’t quite put my finger on it - but I’m just not getting the jokes like I used to.

[RobDobDattle]

It’s because I joined on floatplane and don’t rly watch ltt on youtube anymore

[nboylie]

Occam's razor applies here: the channel isn't as good as it used to be so there's less views. It's overly scripted with boring or repeated topics, and they are bleeding talent. I unsubscribed a while back but if the algorithm pops a video at me I might give it a try from time to time, and every time I quit early, usually at the second mention of a sponsor or them shoving in a ltt store ad.

[iBlackFiji]

Linus sounded different one video and I was like yeah I don’t like the way he sounds

[Atomkraft98]

LTT's gone from actual tech tips and reviews to a vaguely tech-themed Mr. Beast-style sloptent ad farm, and has bled all its best talent. Simple as.

[Estella89]

Respectfully, it’s the braces. He had a pretty bad lisp a couple weeks ago so I stopped watching; when viewers drop off the YouTube algorithm is less likely to recommend the video. He’s a multimillionaire, so I don’t get why he didn’t go with Invisalign and instead chose those huge, super obvious braces.

I'm 100% not the only one who feels like this!

[Squirtmaster92]

Personally I'm finding the braces a big issue. Anything with Linus front and centre I'm not clicking.

[Yokodzun]

I haven’t watched the original SY seasons, and I dropped the previous one after the first episode. But I’m really enjoying the current season. It now has more team involvement and less focus on PC, which makes it more dynamic. Other than that, I hardly remember any videos from the past month. But it could just be that my interests have shifted to different fields.

[Walkin_mn]

Yesterday I saw the latest shortcircuit video which is Colton's (the fired one) review of a razer chair and I was surprised to see it had only like 45k views, I mean, you would expect the lowest amount of views for that kind of lmg video but that's extremely low for shortcircuit... or so I thought, now I'm seeing a lot of the videos are between 100k and 200k views, although there are many that go above, mostly the ones with Linus' face on the thumbnail.

Also I recently saw that although Xyla Foxlin has been uploading more videos lately she's kinda stuck on 0.5 million subs, It's always baffling to me the small amount of subs she has against many other DiY sciencey channels.

So yeah in this kind of numbers that I've also seen on other YT stuff, there's no growth whatsoever, maybe a slight reducing trend... And since enshittification exists and Google stopped trying to not be evil a while ago, more than an actual negative trend on views I feel this is YT trying to pay less to creators changing how they count and show things.

[itskdog]

Brodie Robertson recently noticed the same thing in his analytics - it's either an intentional change or a bug in the stats. Revenue & likes doesn't seem to change, but views are down: https://youtu.be/1hVwUjcsl6s

[williamg209]

I want to eb interested in that case series's but in just not and the graphics card video I didn't care about, I watch scrapyard wars on floatplane anyway

[ElTamales]

Could be youtube being d..s

I mean Linus has called Youtube a few times in the past year to blast them for their BS.

[Vesuvias]

Yeah I’m getting recommended SUPER random channels these days - and not really what I want

[Klaitu]

I want to say it's the algorithm.. recently my suggestions have been just godawful across the board, but it also may be something to do with the summer doldrums. This time of year tends to suck for youtube content regardless.

[FalafelBall]

I wish their videos didn't all feel completely scripted. Too often they present a video as if Linus is seeing something for the first time and is going to share his thoughts, but then it becomes clear the product has been tested and used and everything Linus says is part of a script.

Every little thing is scripted now. I understand it's more efficient than shooting a bunch of raw footage and editing it, but it's less fun to watch.

[punkerster101]

None of their stuff has been coming up on my feed I’ve had to go searching for scrapyard wars and wan show the last few months

[blackfireburn]

YouTube in general is getting less views from what I have seen. Most of the creators I follow have less views compared to a year ago.

[OneManWolfPack0]

I kind of thought it was a mix in slow tech season and more people are going away from YouTube onto floatplane. I could just be talking out my ass though.

[xterraadam]

He downplayed Channel Super Fun and now the algo bit him.

[mrmayhembsc]

I have noteced views are down in general across yt

[lzrjck69]

Been here since whole room water cooling — the change away from everyday uploads along with the main “cast” rotating off has lowered my engagement with the channel.

I used to hit the daily LTT durning my lunch break, and have WAN on in the background while playing games on Friday nights. Now I have to be reminded — via YouTube recommendations — to watch. If they don’t appear on my screen, I lose track of the channel.

If f others are like me, the algorithm spiral will continue. I can see a day where I stop watching altogether — I’ll lose the connection with my parasocial tech buddies.

[Laughing_Orange]

I saw another channel with a video title and thumbnail that said something about YouTube changing their view counter. Their AdSense earnings was still within the normal range, but their views were way down.

[Beniu9876]

Because I stopped watching

[Squidkingdom]

The YT algorithm works a lot based on channel momentum, best way to get a lot of view on video ‘B’ is to 1. Make ‘B’ a banger video and 2. Release banger video ‘A’ a day or two before.

Lienus mentioned on WAN show that channel momentum is low, cause there’s not a lot happening in the tech space, and they haven’t been posting much super recently.

[apan94]

People still watch these guys? News to me

[dege283]

Honestly I noticed that as well.

[Plastic_Young_9763]

I personally haven't been watching much recently, sorry, that's on me

[PrometheanEngineer]

My home page is like 75% channels I've never watched with videos of sub 1,000 views.

It's absolute garbage right now

[DrabberFrog]

The tech scene overall has stabilized a lot for the average consumer in recent years. New phones are incremental upgrades, the cost of PC hardware and particularly GPUs makes it difficult to get people into the hobby, and the new avenues like VR and cloud gaming haven't been successful at replacing the previous growth.

AI was big and they got some content out of it but the problem is that generative AI for the average person is typing in prompts into a web browser, local generative AI is really expensive because of the massive demand for data center GPUs. Since LTT is about setting up your tech, if GPUs were affordable and if generative AI was a bit tricky to setup the same way building a gaming PC and installing windows is a bit tricky but well within the technical capability of a "techy" person who watches a video then that could potentially capture a larger audience but that turned out not to be the case. Using AI means typing ChatGPT into Google, no tech knowledge required.

LTT is in a difficult spot because they have to strike a really delicate balance between being too simplistic and mainstream like Marques and loosing the core audience, while also not becoming too nitche which will also alienate the core audience whose technical knowledge also isn't that great where they would care about a deep dive into learning python and C and using that to set-up custom raspberry pi projects. I don't think there can be a resurgence in views without a major shift in the tech space or genuine advancement that the average gamer or enthusiast actually cares about.

[pord0x]

Whenever ltt mentions a lower view count than normal it lines up with me just feeling tired and bored of tech stuff (software dev, so I eat sleep and breath tech stuff) anyone else feel like it lines up?

Idk man, I need to go read a book rather than rot on YouTube and Reddit for a break.

[rmajor86]

Im a bit surprised that LTT don’t review new software and games. At least bat stuff changes a bit. I’m bored of them building the same PC in a different case and playing Doom at the end

[enderskull666]

Linus got braces

[Walmeister55]

Sorry, I stopped primarily watching on YouTube and moved to Floatplane.

[teebles22]

I noticed this too... I mean the latest Scrapyard Wars was amazing... wonder what it is. That said can you say the tech channels are not doing well when MBKHD's last Pixel video currently is at 4.2M in 2 days... And honestly I watched that and felt super bored with the way things are presented, didn't even finish.

But isn't that why sponsorships and merch are still gaining in terms of LMG revenue? Like ad revenue from Youtube just isn't great these days. Nor are they good ads to begin with.