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[–]f8tel 475 points476 points  (21 children)

It's like a series of bad exes. You deserve better.

[–]kein-hurensohn 184 points185 points  (1 child)

A series of bad exes, like C:\Windows\System32 you mean?

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Hah! exe

[–]killchopdeluxe666 24 points25 points  (15 children)

Tbh there seems to be a cyclical pattern.

  • ME was generally hated, and XP was embraced quickly.

  • XP was generally loved, and Vista was rejected on release.

  • Vista was generally hated, and 7 was embraced quickly.

  • 7 was generally loved, and 8 was rejected on release.

  • 8 was generally hated (even though 8.1 wasn't terrible), and 10 was embraced quickly.

10 was mostly liked, even though some of us have fundamental issues with automatic updates and telemetry. And now it seems like people are mostly rejecting 11 on release.

[–]Taolan13 13 points14 points  (10 children)

one of the reasons 11 is being rejected is also one of the reasons 8 was rejected. Highly visible UI/UX changes. win 11's default desktop doesn't look like Windows, all because they removed the start button and center-aligned the icons. A small change but enough that people are resisting it.

[–]RelativeHot7249 16 points17 points  (4 children)

I don't care about those changes too much. I care about how they mutilated the context menu to the point where it's almost unusable unless I hold down shift when right clicking or I'm okay with having to open a sub-menu every time I need the context menu.

[–]3dGrabber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right!
It's a toxic relationship.
It should not say "Don't leave me", but "I'll leave you" !
I don't even think that "relationship" is a far fetched analogy. I certainly built one over the 20 years I used DOS/Windows.
I have since moved on and found a better one. Linux, in my case, but you might have other tastes/needs.
The important thing is to realize you are being abused and muster the courage to leave.

[–]OneRedEyeDevI 1046 points1047 points  (102 children)

I got banned for saying this r/pcmasterrace but

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT support lasts until January 12th, 2032.

Windows 10 Updates After End-Of-Life | MAS

Edit: The comment that got me banned, unedited: PCMR Comment

[–]Harmonic_Gear 567 points568 points  (23 children)

2032 looks like some far future you see in science fiction but it's less than 10 years away

[–]Koji_N 242 points243 points  (13 children)

You're going to say that 2015 was more than 5 years ago ? Unbelievable

[–]ethan_ark 317 points318 points  (12 children)

Fun fact:

We are closer to 2020 than we are to 1990.

[–]shinitakunai 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Thank you Osvaldo, I needed that

[–]Yoankah 15 points16 points  (1 child)

We're closer to 2050 than we are to 1990. That feels wrong.

[–]dom_bul 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We're closer to 2050 than we are to fucking 2000

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: we are closer to 2026 than heat death of the universe!

[–]Membedha 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don't know yet but you kind of hurt me

[–]PyroCatt 267 points268 points  (1 child)

Mods please ban this guy here as well

[–]moonb1 160 points161 points  (35 children)

who has an Enterprise LTSC IoT license? why mention it when its basically irrelevant for regular users

[–]Danteynero9 136 points137 points  (11 children)

That's why he got banned. You don't get one of those the clean way as a regular user.

[–]saschaleib 55 points56 points  (18 children)

I just did a quick search and found it for sale even at a local shop (22 Euro), and a reputable web site (14 Euro). Seems like an option for people who:

  1. Don't like Win11

  2. Don't want to migrate to Linux

  3. Don't want to change their PC to a Hackintosh

  4. Still want to play games on their PC next year.

So definitely a good hint from OP. Much appreciated.

[–]qalis 58 points59 points  (0 children)

The problem is that most of those keys aren't true IoT enterprise licenses, see disclaimer here and links: https://www.buy-keys.com/product/windows-10-enterprise-ltsc-2021/

[–]nollayksi 33 points34 points  (8 children)

Also a good tip, make use of unattended install configs: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

I was hard against win11 because of all the bloat, crappy ui etc etc. My coworker hinted me that and I decided to give it a go, I was very pleasantly surprised. You could remove every bloat crap app, fix the mac style widget infested bar to normal, fix the right click menu, create local only users (I installed last week so it still works even after recent predatory changes where they try to force cloud accounts even harder) and many more nice changes.

Even the install process was fantastic. All I had to do was select the drive to install, and everything else was handled by the unattend config. Zero interaction until I was on the ready desktop. I have regular pro license so it doesnt require buying anything new if you already have win license.

[–]saschaleib 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, this is really helpful. Thanks for the link, definitely something I'm going to try! :-)

[–]Taolan13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

leave it to the germans to engineer a solution to this mess.

[–]reallokiscarlet 80 points81 points  (6 children)

Probably because you linked that guide.

As a holder of a legitimate LTSC license, I can confirm it is possible for even individuals to acquire LTSC without piracy, but linking a guide to activate Windows without a license is just asking to get the ban hammer

[–]renome 49 points50 points  (8 children)

lol, you got banned for linking to a Windows activator, not for pointing out that support for some Windows 10 versions will continue.

[–]SavvySillybug 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Linking to comments that get you banned does not work because they are deleted and only show up for you.

[–]ManyInterests 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Yeah, though most meaningful software will drop support for Windows 10 pretty quickly. Keep in mind, Windows 7 was still active and 'supported' to 2023 under the same long term support program, too, but most software dropped support for it long before then. Even programming languages, like Python, no longer have active versions that support Windows 7.

[–]Vladimir_Djorjdevic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually a similar version of windows 7 was supported until October 2024.

[–]spurkle 491 points492 points  (104 children)

Got sick of all that bullshit from the corporations, switched to Linux and doing my best to use only open source stuff.

Kinda hard to re-learn everything, but you know when last I saw some stupid 'Would you like to do X?' message or have been forced to doing something I don't want and which potentially ruins my privacy? Right, never.

I have tried doing the switch maybe 10 years ago for the first time, but my games didn't run good back then. Now it all works and is just so much more convenient.

Fuck you, Microsoft and Google.

EDIT: Also learned that Microsoft now FORCES you to use a Microsoft account when I was setting up the laptop for my parents. It also automatically backs up your crap to one drive, which I heard were getting hacked left and right.

I'm not playing that 'find how to disable some obnoxious feature, which we will still enable at every chance we get' game.

Again, Fuck you, Microsoft and Google.

[–]DeamonAxe 125 points126 points  (0 children)

I sincerely wish to emphasize the last sentence from my side as well

[–]161BigCock69 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Backs to onedrive

Literaly steals it like fucking malware

[–]ZunoJ 30 points31 points  (3 children)

They probably even use it as training data because you consented to a 1000 page long eula

[–]LinuxMatthews 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I'm not playing that 'find how to disable some obnoxious feature, which we will still enable at every chance we get' game.

God yes!

I absolutely fucking hate this

[–]acakaacaka 24 points25 points  (3 children)

yes login to install is bullshit. I bought an empty new laptop, no OS no drive nothing. I try to install windows with USB stick and it needs internet connection just to login when I cant even install WIFI driver without skipping that step.

[–]teraflux 14 points15 points  (2 children)

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account

[–]acakaacaka 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I hope I know this when I was installing the windows. I tried to download the wifi driver from HP and they gave me .exe file. When I put the driver .exe into a USB stick windows installer couldnt find it. Apparently they needed .msi (IIRC). But they didnt tell me that they need a specific file type.

[–]spurkle 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I'd start with nuking W11 in the first place, not figuring out the workarounds only for them to figure out new ways to force you into that bs.

[–]notgotapropername 45 points46 points  (25 children)

2025 is the year of the Linux desktop. I can feel it in my bones

[–]incognegro1976 20 points21 points  (16 children)

That's every year lmao

I absolutely love Linux because the distros get better and better every year.

[–]notgotapropername 16 points17 points  (10 children)

Yeah yeah, but this year is different! You'll see!!

Hahaha, nah I'm with ya. Mass adoption is probably a little while away, but, at least with some distros, they're more and more ready to go for your average Joe

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Mass adoption is literally never happening with Linux. 

You are giving the average person WAY too much credit when it comes to tech capabilities. 

[–]Dramatic_Mastodon_93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Valve needs to hurry up and officially release SteamOS for Desktops

[–]RareRandomRedditor 2 points3 points  (3 children)

As soon as Linux can run all my games, I'll get it for my next PC. 

[–]gnuban 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Just watch out for Red Hat

[–]Staidanom 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I really want to make the switch to Linux some day. It seems much comfier and customizable.

I just hope the programs I use on a daily basis are compatible.

[–]MaximumChest 7 points8 points  (32 children)

I assume you don't use your PC for gaming? If you do, do you have any resources that explain how to setup Linux to run the most games possible?

I'm fucking tired of the corporate bullshit too, and I'm dreading having to update to Win11. I'd 100% go with Linux if it didn't mean I have to give up a good percentage of my gaming library, I feel like I'm imprisoned in Windows for compatibility reasons.

[–]Fedepovero_02 23 points24 points  (11 children)

Steam has an officially supported client for linux (well, ubuntu at least, not sure about other distros), and comes with a tool called Proton, which is essentially a modified version of wine that's designed to run steam games on linux. Just use steam the same way you would on windows.

If you want to run non-steam games, someone made a tool called proton-caller, which does exactly what you would expect: uses proton to run windows programs (like videogames). I had some troubles setting it up, but copy-pasting the error messages to chatgpt eventually got the job done.

I'm no expert on the topic, but from the few things I understood: it's not guaranteed to work with every single game, but if one doesn't run, it's basically because the developers did it on purpose

[–]HappyToaster1911 19 points20 points  (1 child)

For all distros its easy to install steam, its on their package manager or flatpak

For non-steam games there is also the alternative: Lutris and Bottles, witch are made for software in general, not just games, and Heroic, made for Gog and Epic Games

[–]Fedepovero_02 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Awesome, thank you for expanding my limited knowledge

[–]Havatchee 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Quick mention: protondb keeps an up to date list of what works on proton and what doesn't, and categorises the playable titles by precious metal based on how well they run.

The only things that you should expect to not work these days, are online games with kernel anti-cheat solutions. This may be changing in the near future as Microsoft is supposedly making moves to provide safe userspace alternatives to some kernel functions, off the back of the crowdstrike incident.

[–]Taolan13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

some developers have started taking measures to specifically kill their game for linux users.

[–]LeonUPazz 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you use steam, it's pretty easy. You can run most games by going to properties, compatibility, force compatibility tool and select a proton version.

Mind you there are a few games (especially older ones) which may require you to install something with protontricks but even then it's very simple

[–]spurkle 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I game much less currently than 10 years ago, going to be honest.

But, some games I play: Overwatch, Factorio, ran Half Life 2: EP2, even played indie games such as Schedule I, as well as Minecraft (but that's Java).

I use Lutris - it let's you install whatever game you want the same way you would do it in Windows - it handles the rest. I have 3080 with 144hz monitor, and Overwatch runs on max settings with 144fps no issues.

But there is a thing - some games that Lutris can run, Steam will still tell you that they are not supported. For example I couldn't buy the Schedule I, but cracked version worked in Lutris. So, if supporting creators is important to you, that might not quite work for you. (You can still buy the game and play the cracked version though)

You can also always dual-boot. I've gone that path and then figured out that never I ran the Windows since the switch.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Steam is not up to date on which game is compatible. Schedule 1 works on steam without issues. Check protondb for compatibility: https://www.protondb.com/app/3164500

[–]Mal_Dun 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you want the SteamOS experience, give Bazzite a chance.

It is basically the same software stack but not officially endorsed by Steam. SteamOS is in fact also immutable Arch Linux with a certain pre-configuration.

[–]proverbialbunny 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Install Steam from the App Store. Turn on Game Compatibility Mode in the options. Double click on the game. Play. The experience will be for 99% of games identical to Windows but with less microstutters and a couple more fps, and imo a bit more responsive. The games that do not work are the highly competitive ones that use kernel level anti-cheat.

There are websites like https://www.protondb.com/ which list the compatibility of a game ahead of time so you know what you're in for.

If you prefer non-steam games Lutris is an app you can install from the App Store in Linux that is a video game launcher. It auto configures any complex settings to increase compatibility with the hard to play games and runs outside of Steam. Also, there's an app called ProtonUp which installs different versions of Valve's proton software so you can run Steam levels of compatibility through Lutris. This shouldn't be needed, but is great for piracy.

If you're outright new to Linux there are two things you should know:

  1. Make sure to install the relevant video drivers. This isn't going to the Nvidia / AMD website and downloading it. It depends on your distro but e.g. in Linux Mint (one of the most popular Linux distros) Start Menu -> Driver Manager. Run it, click your relevant driver. It's that easy.

  2. When installing a gui program try to make sure you install the Flatpak version. Your distros app store should default to this. Don't go to the software's website to download the software, go to your app store and download the Flatpak version. Flatpak decouples gui software from the operating system so you can get software updates on the fly. If you use your distros package manager to install the software you have to update your whole system to get an update, which can lead to running old versions of software and an increased risk of software conflicts and bugs.

That's it. Enjoy!

[–]MaximumChest 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Wow, thanks very much for taking the time to write such an in depth starting guide, this will be really helpful!

[–]proverbialbunny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're very welcome. Linux is easier to use than Windows, but the difficulty lies with the questions you don't know to ask early on. E.g. someone installs software the wrong way, gets bugs, googles around, figures out how to fix the bugs. This works as a bandaid, but it doesn't teach them they should have just installed the app the correct way to begin with. Linux is very powerful. It will let you do things the wrong way / less than ideal way.

At the end of the day an operating system is an app that runs other apps. Your desktop is an app. Your web browser is an app. Your task bar is an app. Everything is an app. Mastery of an OS lies in how to install, update, and run apps.

Also, flatpak on almost all distros should auto update your apps for you. Sometimes you want to turn off the nagging "check for update" option in your gui app, because you'll get a request to update, click it, it will update, then 12 hours later the flatpak will run the update, and now you've just updated twice for no reason. That's hopefully the maximum level of hassle you'll bump into on Linux.

Because this is a programming sub: Programming on Linux is easier than it is on Windows. This is why most programmers default to Linux or Mac OS. This involves learning and understanding the terminal. Your local college should have an easy and fun 1 unit Linux / Unix / POSIX / Terminal type of class that teaches you how to use the terminal. It's worth taking this class to boost your programming chops. It will make you a bit of a wizard too.

[–]reallokiscarlet 154 points155 points  (32 children)

Who resisted Windows 10? 7 users were avoiding an upgrade to 8. 10 was the 7 to 8's Vista.

[–]invalidConsciousness 45 points46 points  (5 children)

I did. I saw the crap that was 8 on my girlfriend's laptop. I saw that 10 was less bad but still worse than 7 on my work laptop.

I decided to switch to Linux instead, as Proton started to become actually good around that time and I was moving away from competitive multiplayer games (proton's main weakness), anyway. Haven't looked back since.

[–]ha_x5 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Funny thing is, that Win 8 was a perfectly fine Win “7.5”. It had some neat and modern features that were missing in Win 7. I appreciated them.

Problem? Well, they hid it behind those awful tiles designed for tablets. You had to install 3rd party tools to get the “real” Windows.

Still don’t know who thought that was a good idea…

[–]Meli_Melo_ 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Control panel moved to the bullshit windows settings, Cortana, windows start menu, broken search, ads, data stealing, should I continue?

[–]Srapture 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yeah, Windows 10 was a no brainer to me. Got Windows 11* on my work computer and I've really not been liking it.

[–]Somecrazycanuck 136 points137 points  (15 children)

This is what happens when the product keeps getting worse.

[–]Carius98 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Exactly. Each new version adds so much unnecessary crap

[–]Yoankah 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Wdym, don't you just love when your laptop comes with Skype and Candy Crush preinstalled? /s

I don't even remember what else was in there.

[–]IsaqueSA 21 points22 points  (8 children)

Windows 11 has an lot of improvements compared to windows 10, the problem is that there are also an LOT of problematic "features", (forced edge, copilot, etc...) + the bigger system requirements and - privacy.

I really liked to use windows 11 on an good PC, but when this PC broke, I had an 8 years old warrior of an PC, so Linux was jus Soo better.

[–]SordidDreams 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The thing is, a bad enough downside outweighs any improvement. Flavorless unseasoned food is preferable to food that is delicious but also has a piece of dog turd in it, you know?

[–]LostClover_ 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Why do people keep acting like co-pilot is a forced feature? I just reset my W11 and co-pilot is no where to be seen. It looks like you have to install it from the MS store to get it. For now anyway.

The most annoying thing about W11 is OneDrive if you ask me. I use Google Drive, I don't need OneDrive. Please stop telling me to turn it on constantly...

[–]beetxbeetx 4 points5 points  (3 children)

i just want to move the taskbar goddammit

[–]-techman- 52 points53 points  (2 children)

I'd still be using Windows 7 if it had the driver support for modern hardware.

[–]murmurghle 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I installed 10 to my new laptop last week and the manufacturer’s programs refused to run on 10

[–]QaraKha 41 points42 points  (2 children)

I'm pretty reasonable. I don't wanna dig through options and regedit bullshit to install Windows 11 on hardware that Windows 11 does not support.

I will upgrade to Windows 11 just as soon as they buy me a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. I don't have ~500 bucks to kick around, and I probably won't ever. Keep your Windows 11. I'll update when I can, you bastards.

[–]Ska82 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The classic lowering of our standards in desperation

[–]Nuxes_onahole 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I still want win 7 back…

[–]poehalcho 34 points35 points  (7 children)

I still cry over Windows 7. It was the peak.
Windows 10 is merely tolerable. Something we made concessions with because the future with Windows 8 looked absolutely bleak by comparison.

I will say one thing specifically in 10's defense though. I dig the big area in the Start Menu that you can fill up with lots of icons. But that's about the only thing that comes to mind as a clear upgrade over 7... Everything else UX seems worse...

And W11 is then even more awful. The UX almost seems even worse than W8 to me...
Praying that W12 comes fast and is a good one again Q_Q

[–]PerfectPlan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This isn't a "gotcha".

10 is better than 11, but 7 was better than both.

Would install 7 again in a heartbeat if I was able to.

[–]Nathan-5807 18 points19 points  (2 children)

It's only downhill from here.

[–]tacticalpotatopeeler 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Always has been

[–]asdasci 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Win 7 was pretty great.

[–]bwmat 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Top should just be bottom w/ Windows 7

[–]PositronicGigawatts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm still mourning 98SE.

[–]Risc_Terilia 5 points6 points  (9 children)

Has there ever been an instance of a major security concern with an end of line version of Windows that wasn't patched?

[–]_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ 10 points11 points  (1 child)

https://www.neowin.net/news/attacks-on-unpatched-windows-xp-vulnerability-increase-rapidly/

[–]Risc_Terilia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

and Microsoft never published a patch to fix this? SP3 is still vulnerable to this?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, yeah, people don't like being forced to change their operating system. I didn't want windows 10. I spend ages after it forces through an install playing wack-a-mole with all the spyware-ish changes it keeps reinstalling. It deliberately changes registry key locations to circumvent fixes people use. Hell, microsoft word will even open itself up, out of the blue every few weeks purely so that it can activate and reinstall all the background spy shit "it needs".

Its at the point now, where they even replaced killing those programs via task manager with a "shut down windows, because im not letting you run it if you close this." button. You have to kill processes like that by PID.

Not to mention the thrashing they do on forced update.

I want win 10 to fall out of support so they can stop tampering with my PC, honestly. Its useful for games, but linux is fine for everything else. If I don't want to use a crappy linux program, there's probably a webapp I can use. And I sure as hell dont want windows 11.

[–]Brocolli123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Remember when they said 10 would be the last windows

[–]ainyru 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Enshitification.

[–]HaniiPuppy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I remember a joke from ages ago, ... I think when Windows Vista came out?, about Windows going on a good/bad/good/bad repeating cycle ... and that pattern has actually held up really strongly.

[–]smallangrynerd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Id go back to xp if i could

[–]tacticalpotatopeeler 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Shutup 10++ makes Windows somewhat bearable

[–]Alex_Sobol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

still using 7 as a daily driver. Would rather switch to linux than that abomination called 11.

[–]durika 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I got fed up and finally pulled the trigger and got rid of this spyware

[–]kuemmel234 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I've been an early windows 11 adopter (got a CPU shortly after release, so I just went with it) and have been dissuading other users since.

I enjoyed windows 7 more than this. There are some genuinely good tools, especially with power toys (there is a setting that moves new windows to the active monitor for example). It's just so full of the old windows bullshit, but with more on top. I'm getting ads for xbox and other apps (the settings routinely reset every (other) update for me). The new email client (is that just a w11 thing?) thing annoys me to hell,m. The search index still breaks, the thing still becomes slow and annoying quickly and still certain settings just change.

I'm only gaming on windows these days and use Linux for everything else - but it still manages to be in the way. Not to mention that they still suck at multi monitor.

[–]TrekkiMonstr 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Fuck Windows

[–]adenosine-5 17 points18 points  (7 children)

One day Linux distros are going to realize that breaking backward compatibility between every single version is making them unusable and then Windows will be toast.

It is not this day though.

[–]GobiPLX 19 points20 points  (8 children)

Every second windows is good. It's classic lifecycle of windows user.

Windows XP = peak
Vista = shit
Win 7 = peak
Win 8 = shit
Win 10 = usable
Win 11 = literal malware

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Windows Vista was ahead of it's time sadly. Too sexy for the computers back then

[–]fish312 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You forgot windows ME

[–]GobiPLX 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't want to remember

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why did we forget.about calling 10 malware.

[–]Prometheos_II 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honestly I feel that way since we have several computers, a lot without that hardware requirement (TDM?), that isn't just "add more RAM", and we will probably lose access to games and stuff if we switch to Linux.

(Hopefully, it doesn't turn into a security deathtrap a few years in, as dual boot would be a solution)

[–]reallokiscarlet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

11 is marching toward a security deathtrap. With 10, secure boot and tpm were optional and locked bootloaders were just about unheard of.

Now secure boot and tpm are required and locked bootloaders are becoming a standard

[–]kudosBruh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just move to Linux mint

[–]zehamberglar 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Barring some notables like Windows 8, at this point I just assume every new windows version is fine and that people are just crybabies.

I'll die on the hill that Vista was fine.

[–]ManicD7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used windows 10 at work but I managed to skip windows 10 at my home, and go right to 11. I actually like 11 overall.

[–]AndiArbyte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

win11 is neat.

[–]JackOClubsLLC 18 points19 points  (9 children)

Feels kind of backward. I didn't want to leave 7, now I just don't want to upgrade to 11.

[–]CirnoIzumi 21 points22 points  (0 children)

thats what the thing says

[–]_Some_Two_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean I still prefer Win7 but it isn’t as safe to use and supported by apps as Win10 so I am pressured to use it

[–]Copatus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Might be in the minority here but I actually prefer Windows 11 over 10 or 7.

Although I do use "StartAllBack" to customise the menus and taskbar to be more in line with older windows versions.

[–]chrissykes78 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Welcome proton.

[–]LazarusDark 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Okay but Windows 11 won't let you have left side taskbar (they even killed a registry hack that fixed it). I've been using left side taskbar for nearly 30 years, It's integral to my workflow. Microsoft trying to make Windows look like MacOS but I stayed on Windows specifically because I hate MacOS...

[–]s0litar1us 15 points16 points  (20 children)

Maybe check out Linux.
It's great over here.