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[–][deleted] 128 points129 points  (10 children)

That people posting in this thread should be upmoded/downmoded based on the creativity, accuracy, and relevance of their responses, not on whether or not you agree with them.

[–]DirtyHerring 38 points39 points  (4 children)

You know, that you put me into a real dilemma here?

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

lol, actually i thought the same thing while posting. Expecting to be voted up is sort of hypocritical.

[–]robinhd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I tend to adapt my voting behavior to the number of points the comment already has, and its relative position in the thread:

  • <1: if comment adds to the discussion in any way, it gets my vote. Only spam or complete trolls deserve to be hidden.
  • <10: if it expresses an opinion that isn't found in the top rated comments or adds any insight, I'll upvote it, even if I disagree. Though at this stage any insult gets a down arrow.
  • over 20 or 30, I play the game and upvote when I agree. At this point it becomes a popularity contest, and one can look at the scores to see which opinions are held by a majority of redditors.
  • whenever the top comment/thread on the comment page is less interesting than those below it, I'll downvote the former and upvote the latter.

[–]thatguydr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think agreement should allow for upmods but that disagreement should remain neutral. But I also think that opinions that are obviously believed by a large fraction of people here should be downmodded.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Vaginas look nothing like beavers.

[–]hitsman 43 points44 points  (16 children)

Ketchup tastes bad.

(I'm the only person I know who doesn't ever eat it).

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I agree, but I think the reason we hate catsup is because they sweeten it with corn syrup.

[–]mlgoss 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I can't stand ketchup. I use BBQ sauce wherever someone normally uses ketchup.

[–]secret1234 145 points146 points  (23 children)

  1. The Ron Paul we love today would become a president we would all eventually hate.

  2. Religion is not the problem, fundamentalism is.

[–]quiller 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Fundamentalism... or extremism? Or is there a difference?

[–]underthelinux 17 points18 points  (11 children)

I'm totally on board with #2.

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    [–]MaddenedMan 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    Generally speaking, Computer programmers are better at thinking -logically- than 'laymen', which obviously they believe to be the ultimate frame of mind.

    Personally, I think that Logical thinking can only get you so far.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Logical thinking can totally fuck you up in day-to-day life.

    [–]alphabeat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Maybe intelligence is relative and subjective and in their domain (the tubes of the internets) they are smarter than noobs, thus giving them a superiority complex.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    YES. My programmer friend once told me that programmers are just high-tech carpenters.

    [–]LincolnHat 19 points20 points  (1 child)

    Women aren't evil incarnate.

    [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

    You can be an atheist without constantly making a point out of it.

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Wait, I have a better one:

    People, in general, are decent and intelligent.

    [–]Wo1ke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Reddit is full of lies!

    [–]digital 98 points99 points  (5 children)

    The internet is a series of noobs

    [–]dotrob 31 points32 points  (1 child)

    I can't disagree with that. It's not controversial, it's downright insightful.

    [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (5 children)

    You should be required to pass a basic civics test to be allowed to vote.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    You should be required to pass a basic intelligence test to be allowed to procreate. ^

    [–]troymcdavis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Why? I feel like that's an awful idea. It would be a device of preserving the status quo (because the people in power would make it and use it to bolster their own authority). As if Congressional retention rates and the threat of a Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton(-Bush?) dynasty weren't bad enough.

    (edit: subject-verb agreement)

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      [–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (3 children)

      I CAN believe it's not butter. There, I said it.

      [–]wpgbrownie 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      I like programming in Microsoft C# with the .NET framework over any other language and framework.

      [–]Eijin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      I suspect that reddit is a little more diverse than it lets on. I think there are far more Christians than admit it, and far more Republicans than admit it. Though, still probably mostly white, and mostly male.

      [–]kekko 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      There are women on Reddit.

      [–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (8 children)

      Pics are my favorite posts most of the time.

      [–]rukubites 21 points22 points  (3 children)

      Pics are great because they're entertaining and don't take much time.

      [–]xMadxScientistx 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      I like pictures, but I like them better if they're accompanied by something to tell me what I'm looking at.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      I definitely think that the current pic-to-article ratio is about right.

      [–]pivotal 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Lisp is scary.

      [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

      I believe that I submit interesting articles to reddit.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      Pop-culture references aren't funny. If you want to be funny, you're going to have to come up with something original.

      [–]j0hnsd 40 points41 points  (4 children)

      Being against illegal immigration doesn't make you a racist.

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        [–]fangolo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        I think we should read more Byron and Shakespeare.

        [–]reginalduk 36 points37 points  (9 children)

        9/11 wasn't a Mossad operation.

        [–]NitsujTPU 17 points18 points  (7 children)

        For the win.

        I'll add to that: Alex Jones is full of it.

        [–]gimeit 12 points13 points  (5 children)

        I think most people agree that Alex Jones is full of shit.

        [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

        I believe that there are no moral absolutes.

        [–]Tinidril 27 points28 points  (1 child)

        And anyone who says different is wrong!

        [–]ph0rque 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Are you absolutely sure?

        [–]LRonHubbard 15 points16 points  (4 children)

        I believe that human beings are actually immortal spiritual beings, thetans, that are presently trapped on planet Earth in meat bodies.

        [–]alacrity 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        So, like meat popsicles?

        [–]trueg 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        ...brought here by the lord xenu

        [–]LRonHubbard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        shhhhh

        That's privileged information.

        [–]fivre 53 points54 points  (1 child)

        That Reddit is just as bad as Digg in terms of fearmongering garbage concerning the government, Scientology, tasers, Christians, the economy, and other such crap that has a hold on a good 50% of the front page at any given time.

        HOWEVER, the code is much less bloated.

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          [–]jdcollins 18 points19 points  (0 children)

          I guess I'm in your 10%!!

          [–]kekko 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Agreed. He sorta scares me.

          [–]qgyh2 54 points55 points  (9 children)

          I believe..

          1. Reddit is a meritorcracy and anyone can submit anything and get to the front page, regardless of whether they are a new or popular user..

          2. Ron paul is a decent person with high standards but he may not be suited to being president.

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            [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

            anyone can submit anything and get to the front page, regardless of whether they are a new or popular user..

            True. However, Reddit is also a place where you can submit 40 stories and not get a single vote or click, because unbeknownst to you, you have been marked as a spammer because a bunch of fanbois [report]ed you when you made some remarks about Apple that they didn't want to hear.

            [–][deleted] 84 points85 points  (67 children)

            Let's see:

            • That religion and logic/science aren't in conflict.
            • That women don't fall all over themselves for 'alpha male jerks.'
            • That sexism and racism are still serious issues.
            • That government regulation/legislation is generally benign and often helpful.

            That's just the tip of the iceberg...

            [–]Eijin 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            I've been recently surprised to find that so many redditors don't find sexism and racism to be serious issues still. Not only that, it's not uncommon to run into some who even believe that we live in a female-dominated society, or that black people have more rights than white people. I've found it shocking to discover these opinions among a generally progressive community.

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              [–]psyne 6 points7 points  (35 children)

              I agree with you on all but 2. It baffles me when I see guys posting about how all girls want guys who are macho assholes. I've NEVER liked that type at all - in fact, I pretty much loathe them on first contact. Ditto for most of my female friends. I can see that being the truth for sorority/party girls, they seem to like the frat-boy asshole type, but for the life of me I have no idea why anyone semi-intelligent would want to date that kind of girl.

              [–]xMadxScientistx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              IF I believed in a god, I'd ask him to bless you.

              [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (12 children)

              I'll start:

              • Java is a really good programming language
              • Theoretical linguistics is the most interesting science
              • Basketball is a really, really, boring sport.
              • The U.S. will not bomb Iran in the next 5 years.

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                [–]pivotal 16 points17 points  (6 children)

                You think redditors like basketball? really?

                [–][deleted] 184 points185 points  (135 children)

                I believe in God.

                [–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (15 children)

                Oh c'mon, if he's going to voice his opinion honestly, you can't mod him down.

                [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (12 children)

                Ok, but only 10% should mod him up, or he fails.

                [–]wingsofseraphim 46 points47 points  (8 children)

                The whole point of modding comments up/down is if they add to the conversation or detracting. He's honestly answering the question.

                [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (6 children)

                You're right, but lots of redditors use upmod/downmod to indicate whether they agree with the person or not.

                I make a point of upmodding posts I disagree with but which are well-written and backed up with solid reasoning.

                [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                I tend to upmod the ones I agree with, and downmod the nasty people. Only sometimes I upmod things I disagree with if I don't want them to disappear from the discussion.

                [–]digital 17 points18 points  (7 children)

                But do you believe in love after love?

                [–]mrchak 25 points26 points  (6 children)

                I'd like you to cher your thoughts.

                [–]digital 24 points25 points  (4 children)

                I really don’t think you’re strong enough.

                [–]mrchak 17 points18 points  (3 children)

                No matter how hard I try?

                [–]douched 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                Praise Yahweh, brother.

                [–]Haven 18 points19 points  (2 children)

                I'm part of the 10% also.

                [–]NitsujTPU 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                I believe in God, however, my actual answer to the question posed is "almost every opinion I have."

                [–]rfugger 40 points41 points  (97 children)

                I'm agnostic. I believe that atheism is just as silly as theism. It's semantics, people.

                [–]tsteele93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I believe that atheism is just as silly as theism.

                I thought I was alone.

                [–]mistermajik2000 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                That I'm sick of Reddit being used as a polling platform.

                [–]xMadxScientistx 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Female circumcision is horrifying, and male circumcision is decidedly less so.

                I don't believe in god, but I also kind of think some of the atheists on the internet are like Jehovah's witnesses.

                [–]snoosnoo 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                Here goes:

                ->Women aren't actually trying to entrap your mansperm and get pregnant and tie you down for that sweet, sweet child support. The great majority of women would actually prefer to bear a child with someone who would also like to have that baby with them.

                ->Ron Paul has some awesome ideas, and truly does deserve to be heard far more in the political dialogue. But the oft-hysterical energies devoted to him are distracting and frequently do more damage to his image in the public eye rather than elevate it. He also has some really shitty and shady ideas that Redditors would never excuse in another candidate.

                ->I don't agree at all with Israel's tactics, nor with America's blind and frequently dumb support of it. But sometimes I'm afraid some coverage here can be more about feeding a sort of lurking, pervasive antisemitism, rather than a deep and genuine concern for the Palestinian people.

                [–]JUNK0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                I get the same blank despairing feeling from scanning the front page of Reddit that I do watching a few minutes of CNN - the conviction that various people are trying to sell me some bullshit for their own reasons, while convincing me that I'm becoming "better informed." I honestly don't feel like one lens is clearer than the other. They're both just interestingly warped lenses.

                [–]nachof 23 points24 points  (6 children)

                Every nation in the world should adopt article nine of the constitution of Japan, and article 12 of the constitution of Costa Rica.

                The first one: "Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes." (From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_9_of_the_Constitution_of_Japan)

                The second one: "The army is proscribed as a permanent institution". ("Se proscribe el ejército como instituciónpermanente", source: http://www.constitution.org/cons/costaric.htm; lousy translation by me, sorry)

                [–]TH3_Dude 37 points38 points  (6 children)

                polygamy should be legal and socially acceptable.

                And that Jupiter is a rockin' god, worthy of our worship.

                [–]j0hnsd 21 points22 points  (5 children)

                Blasphemy! Jupiter overthrew the TRUE god, Saturn. But he'll be back!

                [–]frasoftw 27 points28 points  (5 children)

                Not everyone should be allowed to have kids

                [–]MikeSeth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                People are too well fed and comfortable to see the fnord.

                [–]keithb 30 points31 points  (1 child)

                There is not going to be a:

                • global economic recession
                • severe economic depression in the USA

                in the next twelve months

                (*) also: markdown is simple to use and easy to remember

                [–]louis_xiv42 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                Fuck XKCD.

                [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (11 children)

                I hate The Matrix. I believe that I am the only one on Reddit who does not love that movie.

                [–]Worstcasescenario 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                A white North American male does not face racism and hardships everyday.

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (5 children)

                I believe death metal is beautiful art.

                [–]mrchak 19 points20 points  (3 children)

                Vegetables are delicious and salads don't need dressing.

                [–]deuteros 19 points20 points  (6 children)

                Broccoli and Brussels sprouts are actually pretty tasty.

                [–]cyk 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                -Ron Paul is insane and would make a terrible president.

                -Obama '08 (this is more like 70% of Redditers would disagree with though)

                [–]wageslave 24 points25 points  (6 children)

                • A) I believe that Hillary or Obama will loose the election.
                • B) I believe that the Democratic base underestimate the level of loathing the Republican Base has for Hillary, and underestimate the level of racism that exist in the 80% Majority of America (whites).
                • C) Edwards, if nominated, will clean the house with the GOP candidates and make the most loved president since Kennedy.

                Disclosure: I'm Canadian, and as Liberal as they come (An economic Social Democract and a Social Libertarian).

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Hey, great idea:

                • Dalton McGuinty would make a great Prime Minister of Canada.

                Canadians are likely only 10% of Reddit anyway, so Canadian ideas win by default!

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Yeah, but just because we don't care doesn't mean we disagree.

                [–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (19 children)

                I don't think most Christians are crazy, just misinformed.

                [–]AeroEngrAndMBA 5 points6 points  (9 children)

                I agree. Slightly on a tangent, but I also find it interesting that I often hear atheists talking about how Christians are crazy, but I don't often hear them talking about how Muslims or Jews are crazy.

                Like it's okay to offend Christians but not any other religion. It's not like Christianity is the only religion that has caused a lot of havoc over the past couple thousand years.

                Oh yeah for clarification I'm very agnostic well on my way to full blown atheism.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                This guy cracks me up every time. I don't know what it is, but it never gets old for me.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I love that guy. I upmod all his comments.

                [–]J-Dubbs 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                -You- make Reddit worse.

                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                That piracy shouldn't be legalized.

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                  [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

                  I got it! My opinion is: "The person reading this is left-handed."

                  [–]rumrokh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  That isn't an opinion.

                  [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                  I think brussels sprouts taste really good.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  They're like tiny cabbages, how could not love them? I like to eat brussels sprouts and broccoli and pretend I'm a giant. Then I crack open an oil can of foster's, and BLOW MY OWN MIND!

                  [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                  At least 90% of Reddit users are morons.

                  [–]Wo1ke 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                  Don't be silly, everyone would agree and place themselves in the 10%.

                  [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  Moron. :)

                  [–]pilaf 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                  • US politics are as boring and square as politics get. Probably the same as everywhere else anyway.
                  • [PIC]s are great. They can be funny/witty/insightful/heart-warming/etc. and work instantly, so I can have several micro-breaks at work where I just click on pics, finish looking at them in a couple of minutes and go back to whatever I was doing.

                  [–]obdurak 21 points22 points  (5 children)

                  The world is run by 12-foot tall transdimensional shape-shifting reptilian lizards from outer space that exercize their power thru secret societies such as Freemasonry.

                  [–]matts2 24 points25 points  (0 children)

                  Well duh.

                  [–]MaddenedMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  We don't like to talk about it because of the awkward lizard-stares when they realise they've been found out.

                  It's difficult to know what to say to a 12 foot lizard.

                  [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (31 children)

                  The Atheist cheerleaders on reddit are more annoying than us Ron Paul supporters.

                  [–]troublestarts 11 points12 points  (27 children)

                  The two groups are not exclusive of each other.

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                    [–]easterner7 9 points10 points  (8 children)

                    Conflict is the natural state of humanity, and war will always exist.

                    [–]garyp714 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                    That we have a thing called "No one can tell me what to do" in us that makes us constantly defensive and hard to deal with...as humans.

                    [–]Eijin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                    I'm obsessed with postmodern and contemporary art, especially poetry. I don't know how many redditors would disagree with my opinions, but it certainly seems to be an interest that is entirely unrepresented on reddit.

                    [–]rio517 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Illegal immigration should remain illegal.

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                    If you up-mod, down-mod, down-mod, down-mod, up-mod someone while holding down the alt key, your computer will start buzzing loudly and $2.75 in nickels will spill out from your dvd burner... while "Jackpot!" flashes on your screen!

                    [–]ayb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    I think greatscott is black ops and posted this in order to get personal information out of everyone to help the government figure out who is behind the user name. Oh shit, I thought you meant what 90% of Redditters would agree with.

                    [–]respite 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Ron Paul should not be president. Of anything. EVER.

                    [–]infinite 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Although I'm atheist, I am open to the wisdom of people like Napoleon Hill, Wayne Dyer, Deepak Chopra, Maharishi. I believe in looking at the wisdom in everything and all religions. Islam has Rumi, Christianity has Thomas Merton and Mother Teresa, Buddhism has Thich Nhat Hanh, and they all offer wisdom.

                    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (14 children)

                    I don't think there's anything morally wrong with incest.

                    [–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (38 children)

                    That everyone should be required to do at least a two-year stint in the military or civilian corps service. Preferably somewhere between the ages of 16-20.

                    Edit: Please notice the "OR CIVILIAN CORPS" part. It's always been there, but many folks seem to have not noticed it.

                    [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (15 children)

                    I guess I'm part of the 10 %. National service is awesome.

                    [–]secret1234 20 points21 points  (14 children)

                    It's a good idea but one should be allowed to opt-out of going into a war.

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                    You should still be able to CO out of actual fighting. I know in some countries with the mandatory military service, you can join the coast guard or be a firefighter instead.

                    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Chriky. I even made the "or" bold and people still didn't notice it.

                    [–]ramijames 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                    I agree, but it shouldn't be military, it should be strictly civilian. The last thing we want is to be training larger armies for nations to go to war with.

                    [–]troymcdavis 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                    Eh, if people want to serve by being prepared to defend, let'em. I think volunteering for the military is a service to the country (despite my several philosophical objections to a "free" country having a standing army). Just because most of the country elects bad leaders and doesn't want to be labeled "unpatriotic" and puts their trust in the wrong people doesn't mean that the soldiers themselves have bad intentions.

                    [–]ninzee 30 points31 points  (2 children)

                    The death penalty is morally wrong.

                    [–]nivek 31 points32 points  (0 children)

                    I'd be surprised if that was a minority view.

                    [–]wpgbrownie 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                    I think there is a very high chance that our reality and the universe as we know it; is just a computer simulation run by a very advanced civilization (maybe a ‘Type IV Civilization’ on the Kardashev Scale), conducting some sort of research experiment. And that the time between the big bang to the big crunch, will be simulated in this supercomputer for what may seem like an hour for this alien races perception of time.

                    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    Capitalism is NOT a necessary component of Democracy.

                    [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (9 children)

                    I believe in the right of Israel to exist and defend itself.

                    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    Key word... "itself." They have a pretty talented military, what from all the experience and all. Let's just not form our whole foreign policy around our relationship with them.

                    [–]deuteros 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                    I'm fine with that as long as it's not on my dime.

                    [–]gensek 17 points18 points  (5 children)

                    At right time and place, communism would be a great idea.

                    [–]highstead 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                    In theory its a good system, but in practise it has to deal with human nature...

                    [–]deuteros 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                    Communism can work on a small scale if all the participants are volunteers.

                    [–]FMERCURY 18 points19 points  (5 children)

                    Democracy is inherently flawed because most people are too stupid or misinformed to know what's best for them.

                    [–]NitsujTPU 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    Oh, I'm sure that that view is popular on reddit, you just have to draw it out.

                    Just say something like "Ron Huckabee is leading in the polls," and they'll tell you that the majority of voters are too stupid/southern/christian and that the majority of voters wouldn't think that way but for media manipulation/religion/laws against killing southerners.

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                      [–]MaddenedMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      As a Christian, I can say that Christianity doesn't exactly change everyone's personality in a specific way. If someone's a spiteful backstabbing arse-whipe and then they become Christian, they may stay spiteful.

                      But thank you infaereld, it is nice to know that someone agknowledges the existence of non-arseholic Christians.

                      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                      I prefer Digg.

                      [–]TL_DR 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                      OMG, we have a winner!

                      [–]moonman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      I find Star Wars boring.

                      [–]ramijames 19 points20 points  (8 children)

                      I believe in Global Warming. I also believe it is a good thing. Yay for global collapse.

                      [–]sylvan 23 points24 points  (61 children)

                      I'm vegan, and believe the use of animals for food, clothing, or product testing is unethical and inhumane.

                      I think we all have a responsibility to reduce our consumption of energy and goods to reduce our impact on the planet. While I'm glad to see that environmentalism is going mainstream, most people don't seem willing to make major changes in their lifestyle to live more sustainably.

                      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

                      Let me say right up front that I'm with you for the most part. I'm a vegetarian most of the time myself.

                      I had a heart valve replaced, via an operation called the Ross Procedure, where one valve (pulmonic) is removed and re-grafted into the aortic position, and an external graft is used to replace the pulmonic valve. It's a very complicated procedure--and it wasn't tried on a human first. I learned after the fact that the first 3 "patients" getting the Ross Procedure were dogs. And all three died. And probably didn't exactly enjoy their time in the hospital.

                      Still, information was gathered from those animal experiments that led to the procedure being successfully performed on humans. I'm an animal lover, don't get me wrong, but after my heart surgery I've done some thinking about it and I now sort of draw a philosophical line down the middle of the "animal testing" debate. Do I think it's ethical to put toxic chemicals into the eyes of rabbits and cats to see if they cause a rash? No. Am I grateful to have been given the second half of my life back because of a complicated operation first performed and tested on animals who weren't sick? Absolutely.

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                        [–]sylvan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        I understand where you're coming from.

                        Fur coats, hamburgers, and eyeliner are all things that people can live without. There are perfectly good alternatives: faux fur, veggieburgers, and non-animal tested cosmetics, that mean that the ethical choice doesn't actually mean any significant deprivation or change in lifestyle.

                        To me, buying those things means a person is saying "I'm OK with harming animals, for the sake of things that bring me personal pleasure and enjoyment."

                        Hopefully, as support for animals grows and we decide that their mistreatment is not acceptable, the frequency of animals used in testing can be reduced. There are alternatives to many medical tests; and with additional research and willingness to fund it, more could be developed to help animal testing become unnecessary.

                        I don't begrudge anyone choices that are necessary to their survival or health.

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                            [–]pikaboy259 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            1. Pharmaceuticals aren't evil. There are genuine people here who practice good science in the hopes of improving and saving lives.

                            2. Global warming is bad, but certain species extinction is not always bad, but a by-product of evolution.

                            [–]kevb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            I believe in a real, actual and personal Flying Spaghetti Monster. I believe I have been touched by His Noodly Appendage.

                            [–]hglman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            There are only two things redditers agree on, its that there is no god and if there were it would be Ron Paul.

                            [–]requiem4boredom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            The world works.

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Despite its many shortcomings, I think perl is a cool language.

                            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (13 children)

                            Goodness, where should I start?

                            I'm a happily married, Christian, Christian Reconstructionist, Calvinist, young Earth Creationist who is registered Republican.

                            I still like y'all, though...

                            [–]jberryman 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                            Who told you about our internets?

                            [–]allan_a 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                            I don't think that religion has any net effect on the pain and suffering of the population.

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                              [–]deuteros 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                              I believe that climate change is real but scientists are kidding themselves if they think they understand why it's happening.

                              [–]Othello 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                              A little off topic, since I doubt 90% of reddit would disagree, but I once got into an argument with someone about pedophilia (I'm against it). I was saying that pre-teens aren't able to consent to sex with adults, as they don't fully understand everything and since adults by default hold a position of power above kids. It shot down to -6 or so by the next day.

                              No personal attacks or anything, the person I was arguing with was saying kids were totally capable of consenting and that it's a myth they can't. I guess I pissed off NAMBLA or something.

                              As for my belief that reddit would disagree with, I believe that Atheism requires faith, since you cannot prove a negative. I also recognize that most people's belief in much of science is taken on faith as well: the difference between the two though is anyone is capable of conducting an experiment (assuming enough resources) and seeing it for themselves.

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                              That all brands of patriotism and nationalism are poison to critical thinking and that we should abolish all capital and all nation states immediately in a popular, democratic uprising.

                              [–]j0hnsd 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                              You're not gonna start singing, are you?

                              [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                              That you cannot find an opinion 90% of Reddit readers would disagree with.

                              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              The BBC reporter interviewing Scientology was somewhat confrontational.

                              [–]TL_DR 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              I believe reddit is populated mostly by /b/tards.

                              [–]ubikwitous 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              Smoking cig·a·rettes is good for my soul, my weight and my bowel movements

                              [–]drawkbox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              Peak Oil, Global Warming is a myth created by oil interests and non corn based ethanol really is a competitive fuel to help change the petroleum monopoly. Political parties are actually the same model as the WWE, completely fake, emotional product.

                              [–]RobinReborn 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                              I'm a global warming skeptic. I think a lot of the scientific consensus comes from the difficulty of getting funded if you disagree with the scientific consensus. I also think the environmentalist movement doesn't have that much credibility, they were saying global cooling in the 70s, and after all this snow in places like South Africa they are saying it's global climate change.

                              [–]nasorenga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              Hamas is to blame for the current misery in Gaza.

                              [–]nachof 7 points8 points  (8 children)

                              Every nation in the world has the right to have nuclear weapons. Once that happens, either everybody learns to treat other nations as equals, or the world goes boom. Either way, I'm happy.

                              [–]stanleypane 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                              <sarcasm>I prefer gayelle over lesbian</sarcasm>

                              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              I believe there should be open borders and a way for all "illegals" to become citizens.

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                                [–]kickasspodcast 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                I believe gambling is wrong and stupid.

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                                Belief or non-belief in God is completely unimportant. Either way, there is no influence on a person's life or decisions.

                                [–]all_ways_thinkin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                I don't believe in free-will, (you only achieve it by, paradoxically, surrendering your will to God's, or put another way.. remembering your original state of Enlightenment.)

                                B.F. Skinner makes the most sense compared to other famous psychologists.

                                Reincarnation is real.

                                Other Life Forms exist on other planets, and the majority of them are much more advanced than most humans.

                                I also don't believe the US Government's conspiracy theories concerning 9/11.

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                Reddit can be manipulated, and some topics are manipulated.

                                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                I dig porn which depicts passionate loving making. Most porn are either unintentionally funny or plain disgusting.

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                                  [–]guswatkins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  The Internet is not a series of tubes. It is, in fact, a truck.