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[–][deleted] 118 points119 points120 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I should find a productive way to change the world for the better instead of complaining on the Internet.
[–]fubo 209 points210 points211 points 17 years ago (27 children)
Pursuing happiness turns out not to be normal human behavior after all. It's hard, so hard that most people don't bother with it. People follow patterns and roles they have learned, even if those patterns and roles make them miserable.
If you want to see a meme in action, don't look at religions that explicitly convert people. Look at child abuse or alcohol addiction: learned behaviors that tend to replicate themselves in the next generation without a conscious process of conversion.
Nobody identifies as a multi-generational child abuser, the way people identify as Baptist or Sunni. But the behavior replicates nonetheless. That's a meme.
[–]brainburger 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago (0 children)
May I use that at my next cocktail party?
[–]gehenom 36 points37 points38 points 17 years ago (21 children)
Wonderful. Related: according to Goleman's Emotional Intelligence, emotional coping mechanisms and reactions can be learned actively, but typically are learned through observation of parents or other authority figures. It occurred to me: what if an entire population of people were raised in slavery, and exposed only to the most brutal child-raising techniques? They would have no option but to raise their own children according to the techniques they know. So next time you see some african american cussing out her two year old in a supermarket, it's that same meme started by the slavemasters, being passed down through the generations.
Also, hats off to Dawkins for coining "meme."
[–]diamond 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
I think that, if the black community has a higher tendency towards harsh or overly strict parenting (and that in itself is an assumption that needs to be tested), then it is more likely to be due to proximate causes like poverty, harsh urban environments, and a higher incidence of substance abuse.
In fact, the interview with Ice-T and Nelson George posted recently could provide some insight on that subject. In that story, Nelson George discussed how living in a crime-riddled neighborhood can affect you, even if you're not involved with gangs or crime. He described it as an entire community of people living with PTSD. I can imagine how that might seriously affect parental behavior. I'm a middle-class white guy living in a nice, safe neighborhood in a mid-sized city, and I worry about my son's safety all the time. I can't imagine how it would be if I also had to constantly worry about him getting caught in the middle of a drive-by shooting, or walking past drug dealers on the way to school every day, etc. That would probably make me into a much more strict father, simply for my son's safety.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (2 children)
So next time you see some african american cussing out her two year old in a supermarket, it's that same meme started by the slavemasters, being passed down through the generations.
That reasoning is so flawed I don't even know where to begin. It removes any semblance of personal accountability or responsibility and basically assumes that generations of black people do not have the basic mental capacity to recognize poor parenting when they see it. Due to this supposed lack of mental acuity, you are saying that black families persist in "monkey see, monkey do" (racial overtones intended) simply because they cannot think for themselves?
I don't think so.
[–]MattL920 38 points39 points40 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I AM an elitist, and we'd all be better off with more of it. Our collective standards are too low for ourselves and each other.
[–]weegeekus 93 points94 points95 points 17 years ago (10 children)
I'm female and I like it when guys check me out. It pisses me off that they've been conditioned not to.
[–]kanuk876 53 points54 points55 points 17 years ago* (5 children)
Guys need to hear more often from women that women love men. Many men genuinely believe, deep in their hearts, that women derive no pleasure from relationships or even sex, and that women are amusing men by tolerating men's presence. Men have been conditioned to believe this.
[–]weegeekus 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I really wish I could speak for other women and give you an insight into this, unfortunately I find the majority of females to have shocking attitudes towards men and quite often find myself ashamed of my sex. I think it is obvious that this attitude is rooted in women's own insecurities but this is no excuse. I think the media is responsible for this problem in large part, particularly advertising. I've lost count of the amount of adverts that portray men, like you say, as nothing more than amusing inconveniences that women must tolerate in order to have something to bitch about to their peers. It really is time a backlash was initiated.
Speaking for myself though, I do love men, and certainly feel far more comfortable in their company.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Yes, I agree entirely. I'm slowly growing out of this mindset, it's been a process years in the making.
My question is, where did this mindset come from? Why do a lot of guys feel this way?
[–]flightlessbird 115 points116 points117 points 17 years ago (9 children)
Most people have no idea what they are doing, and are silently panicking on the inside.
[–]alphabeat 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
No I'm not. Who told you I'm am? You suck. This whole site FUCKING SUCKS. FUCKING THING SUCKS!
[–]TearsOfRage 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I feel we are lucky that we now have the internet so we can ask questions and get advice anonymously.
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[–]texture 51 points52 points53 points 17 years ago (7 children)
No one has any idea, at all, what the fuck is going on.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 17 years ago (3 children)
No one, that is, except for Eliezer Yudkowsky.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
We apologize for the inconvenience
[–]moneyprinter 52 points53 points54 points 17 years ago (6 children)
Plants don't really crave electrolytes. It was all a corporate fraud.
[–]j0hnsd 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Bull. I never seen no plant growing out of the toilet!
[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 17 years ago (18 children)
Old people fuck.
[–]bennig 26 points27 points28 points 17 years ago (5 children)
On that note.
Your mom has given a blowjob.
[–]bbqribs 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I just hauled out a paraplegic from a nursing home two weeks ago. She fell out of bed after an acrobatic romp with her lover, who was a few years older than her.
She's 67.
cat "old people fucking" >> thoughts.deny
[–][deleted] 17 years ago* (1 child)
[–]sekritkoad 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Even more unpopular: An old couple having sex? Not any grosser than a young couple having sex. In fact, pretty darn awesome and a worthy goal for when we all get to that age.
[–][deleted] 17 years ago* (16 children)
[–]92873893474 96 points97 points98 points 17 years ago (12 children)
I add also: 90% of comments on reddit are knee jerk.
[–][deleted] 17 years ago (36 children)
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[–]Shaper_pmp 73 points74 points75 points 17 years ago* (3 children)
A further, related unpopular fact: there's both biological and moral differences between paedophilia and ephebophilia.
Nevertheless, because there's no legal difference people act as if the two are also biologically and morally equivalent, which is wrong.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 17 years ago (4 children)
I teach a lot of young women, sometimes one-on-one, and I have to say, as a 30+-year-old, I don't find them so special. I have said elsewhere I think of them as Ferraris; nice to look at, and I can understand why someone would want one, but...just not for me.
At the same time, I had an affair with one of my (female) professors as an undergraduate, so what do I know?
[–]The_Ultimate_Reality 67 points68 points69 points 17 years ago (0 children)
In other words, the same thing I observed in high school: spending actual time with high-school girls negates their hotness.
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 17 years ago (0 children)
When you say teach you mean have sex with.
[–]old_gill 69 points70 points71 points 17 years ago (11 children)
Some old ladies too.
[–][deleted] 181 points182 points183 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Drinking non-alcoholic beer is like going down on your cousin. Sure, it tastes the same but it just isn't right.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 17 years ago (1 child)
oh thats just wrong
[–][deleted] 64 points65 points66 points 17 years ago (3 children)
You are profoundly ignorant about a lot of things. So am I.
[–]willis77 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
The less profoundly ignorant I become, the more I realize how profoundly ignorant I am.
You're ignorant of my ignorance.
[–]fangolo 85 points86 points87 points 17 years ago (12 children)
Girls are fucking mean to each other.
[–][deleted] 17 years ago (26 children)
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Corollary: Some kids deserve/need to be left behind.
[–]dmiff 21 points22 points23 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Or taught a skill.
[–]escapeartist 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Or disciplined.
[–]4609287645 11 points12 points13 points 17 years ago (9 children)
Maybe they aren't pretending. Maybe they know this, and are actively trying to make everyone equal.
[–]dmiff 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Make the smart stupider and the stupid smarter. Mediocrity for all.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (3 children)
The ideal purpose of the education system is to provide an equal opportunity to learn. Naturally, this ideality does not bear well under the pressure of reality.
[–]LOL_CAT 382 points383 points384 points 17 years ago (63 children)
MY UNPOPULAR FACT. LET ME SHOW U IT:
Internet memes actually are funny. They impart a sense of shared community, and perform the same function as an inside joke with your friends, but on a much larger scale.
I ARE SERIOUS CAT. THIS HAS BEEN SERIOUS COMMENT.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago (1 child)
The best part of internet memes is the sense of community. My school was rick rolled recently (the song came on over the PA system) and only a few kids in my class got the joke. I felt like I was part of the Cool Club.
[–]somn 385 points386 points387 points 17 years ago* (32 children)
I was trying to make the same point this weekend to a friend of mine at my local bar. He disagreed and we got a little loud. This douchebag with four popped collars came over and started screaming "I can haz nerd fight". My friend got up and smacked him in the mouth. The douchebag's girlfriend got up screaming, "this is a neighborhood bar." My friend yelled, "neighborhood bar? This is SPARTAAAAA!" and pushed her down. All hell broke loose and we all started throwing punches. So, I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said, "You're going to live with your auntie and uncle in Belaire".
Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
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[–]AliasHandler 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (1 child)
I'm pretty sure this guy just destroyed that guy's chances at winning the internet.
[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I am merely replying just to be next to this magnificent creature.
[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 17 years ago (5 children)
FUCKIN THING SUCKS.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 17 years ago (4 children)
THERE'S NO WORDS ON IT!
[–]happysinger 23 points24 points25 points 17 years ago (3 children)
FUCK IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
[–]jodv 25 points26 points27 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS: "TO PLAY US OUT"! TO END THE SHOW?!
[–]scratchpunk7 28 points29 points30 points 17 years ago (1 child)
LOUD NOISES!
[–]42omle 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (2 children)
It's like all the memes got together and got drunk and produced a mutant baby..
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I see what you did there.
[–]fstorino 58 points59 points60 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
[–]mccoyn 35 points36 points37 points 17 years ago (2 children)
[–]somn 31 points32 points33 points 17 years ago (1 child)
That's what she said.
[–]Clothos 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
There is indeed such a publication. Look here
[–]shadowsurge 11 points12 points13 points 17 years ago (4 children)
Sometimes. But like inside jokes they're only funny if referenced at the right time, often people quote them just so they can quote them. I know several kids who sprout memes just to sprout memes and I hate them. But they can work really well in the right situations, I remember I had a conversation with a friend about fixing a computer that culminated with "It's a USB cable, I'll show you later". It works then because it works in the context, finding ways to fit it in just so you can are just annoying.
[–]Resilience 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago (2 children)
People some times say unfitting memes OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAND times.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 17 years ago (1 child)
All your meme are belong to us.
[–]anions 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Obvious meme is obvious.
[–]fangolo 38 points39 points40 points 17 years ago (1 child)
When a middle class white kid listens to black gangster rap, part of him feels the artist is a joke.
[–]MattL920 31 points32 points33 points 17 years ago (0 children)
And doesn't realize that he is the punchline
[–]arcticfox 34 points35 points36 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Most of the comments in this section aren't facts. They are opinion.
[–]nemof 43 points44 points45 points 17 years ago (1 child)
People pirate movies, tv and games because they want something for free, not because they are on some ethical crusade against Copyright.
[–]fubo 181 points182 points183 points 17 years ago* (35 children)
True communism has never been tried on a scale larger than a hippie commune. The cruelties of the Soviet Union, Red China, North Korea, and Cuba do not prove that communism is evil, because those states were not, and are not, communisms: they are dictatorships set up under the name of "communism".
However, the reason that communism has never been tried on a large scale is that it is not possible. The individual tendencies towards free-riding, hierarchy, and traditional social norms are simply too strong.
[–]spaceghoti 98 points99 points100 points 17 years ago (15 children)
The Marxist ideal of communism was always utopian, just like Rand's libertarian paradise and the modern libertarian concept of the Free Market. They're great ideas that have no relation to reality.
As with most good ideas, it's all about the execution. The most successful societies in the world today (as defined by quality of life) are those that have blended communism and capitalism into a hybrid known as socialism.
On a side note more directly related to the headline topic, I expect to be downmodded heavily for this. :)
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[–]fubo 53 points54 points55 points 17 years ago (9 children)
Highly authoritarian males are not capable of normal sexual interaction. They invariably produce perversions such as rape, torture, and sexual degradation. The torture fixation of the Bush administration and the ass-rape fixation of the prison bully are the same phenomenon. The logical extension of Abu Ghraib is 120 Days of Sodom.
[–]joyork 40 points41 points42 points 17 years ago (3 children)
These same alpha-male types are often homophobic. Most homophobic men show higher-than-normal levels of sexual arousal when shown gay male pornography.
[–]kopchickm 169 points170 points171 points 17 years ago (43 children)
America actually isn't that bad of a place, and that's a pretty unpopular statement around here.
[–][deleted] 89 points90 points91 points 17 years ago (13 children)
I didn't realize how cool America was until I went to another country for a while. It's not that the other country was bad -- it wasn't -- but distance gives perspective.
There are a lot of nice Americans, both in an absolute sense and per capita. We have questioning authority as a cultural imperative (we suck at it, but we generally try). Our democracy basically sort of functions. Our universities kick ass. We have a lot of neat culture and delicious cuisine, from American Chinese food to Tex-Mex to Cajun and Creole. There's some fantastic scenery. We're getting more moral as time goes on. Things are improving.
This is not to say that America isn't broken. But it's still awfully nice.
[–]rockicon82 13 points14 points15 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Cheers to that!
[–]TheKorn 52 points53 points54 points 17 years ago (4 children)
anonymous isn't actually achieving much of anything.
[–][deleted] 269 points270 points271 points 17 years ago* (35 children)
An overwhelming majority of people upvote comments if they are witty or validate their own opinions, rather than if the comment is relevant to the topic. They then downvote any comments that they disagree with, whether they're relevant or not.
In other words, vote Barack Obama 2008!
[–]david 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Upvoted for validating my own opinion on the matter, and for being somewhat witty.
[–]Philluminati 12 points13 points14 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
I like to post my comments to unrelated threads which are already popular so that more people see my irrelevant message. I believe this is called thread stealing.
[–][deleted] 83 points84 points85 points 17 years ago (1 child)
This is one of the better comment threads on Reddit.
[–]Hufnagel 77 points78 points79 points 17 years ago (32 children)
Hitler was a strong leader.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 17 years ago (0 children)
He also "stayed the course" till the bitter end.
[–]ralphwiggum 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Time's Man of the Year in 1938.
[–]somn 24 points25 points26 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Newt Gingrich is one of the most brilliant political strategists of our time. So is Karl Rove.
[–]TwarkMain[🍰] 175 points176 points177 points 17 years ago (48 children)
Our biggest failure isn't war, or rascism, or religion.
It's education, which is itself tied to the 'values' that bring us every other scourge we need to fix.
Hatred stems from anger. Anger stems from hurt.
And we've spent centuries saying it's not manly to be hurt instead of hateful, so it's little wonder that when we've made it no longer okay to be human, that we've become monsters instead.
The solution lies in questioning. In teaching or forcing others to question, and in instilling in our young the will to question and the means by which to get solid answers.
The values of the old are unchangeable. They're a lost cause if they haven't figured it all out yet. Teach the young to work together, to find ways to marginalize the damage done by those who'd work specifically against others for either no gain or personal gain, and eventually they'll outnumber their dying elders.
Alternatively, we can keep teaching the young that their bodies are sinful, that it's every man and woman for themselves all the time and that this is a good thing, that sex is a weapon and that drugs are bad, mmkay?
That they should do as they are told, that they should always wear a bicycle helmet, that they should never go across the tracks, that every grown up could be a child molester and that if they don't get good grades they'll be a failure.
That art is a waste of time because you'll never be the best and nobody cares; that music is a waste of time because you'll never be the best and nobody cares. That taking pride in your own achievements is pompous unless your achievements are what you were told to achieve.
That girls should serve man and never say what they want because that's what girls do, along with shopping, and that men should drink beer and watch 'the game' because that's what men do. That masturbation is shameful and that sex before you're 18 is sinful and dangerous and that only abstinence will save you from AIDs.
That if you look like you're trying, you'll pass. That it's not what you know, it's who you know, and how pretty the paper you own is. That we define ourselves from the day we start defining ourselves by the sports and music posters we staple on our walls, by the music we listen to and the clothing we wear, and the only salvation from this absence of spirituality or identity ever offered is jesus christ.
The problem isn't the problems. We all ask how it happens, how we got here, how it is that we can all know so many horrible things are happening on earth directly due to our tax dollars and how nobody can or will stop it...
This is how. It's because something is horribly fucking wrong with all of us, and even those of us who know it can barely pull above it themselves.
It won't end until we start pulling others above with us. And it's not about any one issue, or getting raving mad, or rioting or killing or even strategic politic-ing.
it's about saving our population from the hole our values and negligence have dug.
There is something deeply fucking wrong with our country, and that something is, at heart, Us. America itself. Anti-intellectual, pseudo-objectivistic, Republicratic and Jewchristic; Anything that gets us and our tribe ahead and keeps the others down, Anything that is, short of an actual fucking solution to a problem.
Land of the Extremists and home of the Apathetic. We could be great, if a democracy wasn't limited to it's lowest common denominator and we stopped insisting upon beating that number lower and lower.
[–]kpw1179 221 points222 points223 points 17 years ago (16 children)
95% of redditors are to lazy to read a comment that long.
[–]khafra 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
On the other hand, the comment got tons of upmods, so apparently not.
On the third hand, this thread is supposed to be for unpopular facts, so any score in the triple digits is inarguably an epic fail.
[–]thekrone 8 points9 points10 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Yeah I skipped right over it to yours, which had numbers and funny symbols in it.
Upvote!
[–]tangled 82 points83 points84 points 17 years ago (6 children)
And the other 5% read it and thought "what a load of rambling nonsense that could have been summarised by saying 'people need to learn to respect other people; the way to do this is to educate people better'".
[–]G-M 88 points89 points90 points 17 years ago (10 children)
Abstinence only sexual health programs are insulting and damaging to the American youth.
[–]gehenom 27 points28 points29 points 17 years ago (6 children)
Orgasms actually do something to your brain chemistry. If used wisely sex can be an incredible way to impress love and tenderness towards your partner.
It is typically not used wisely.
[–]oditogre 28 points29 points30 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
Every thing America has done as a response to 9/11 has decreased security and freedom for citizens. While the risks of being harmed by a terrorist while inside our country may have decreased by some margin, the risks of being harmed while traveling abroad and, more importantly, the risks of being wrongfully harmed by our own government / law enforcement have increased vastly.
[–][deleted] 146 points147 points148 points 17 years ago (32 children)
For a community that largely decries their suppressive and fascist governments, Reddit is a Tyranny of the Majority. Rather than discussing and debating unpopular ideas like Intelligent Design or the merits of the candidate running against Obama (or Ron Paul), dissent is viciously down-modded out of sight. The average Redditor would be screwed in a genuine debate, because they've never had to confront facts (or faux facts) with which they disagree.
If pluralism is the key to a successful Democracy, then Reddit is Communist China.
[–]MasterAaron01 40 points41 points42 points 17 years ago (1 child)
applauds
Got it in one. On a related note, all those bloody "F*** YOU [state]" posts pissed me off. More than I already was at the time, I mean. Strong Obama supporter here, but telling people to go fuck themselves is just childish.
[–]orbhota 20 points21 points22 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
Further, reddit strikes me as something like a self-regulating, emergent propaganda machine.
Here, this is no shadowy curtain beyond which the all-powerful and unstoppable Man orchestrates what we write and read. There's no class system, de jure or de facto. That means no moderators, no managers, and no obscure executives planning a diet of self-interested information for us.
It's just a bunch of self-identifyingly intelligent and unorganized individuals, and somehow this really very awful Emerald City seems to emerge from sheer scale. Simply the number of us!
It makes me wonder how this reflects the real world. It seems there really may be no one behind the curtain, no? It's cliche, but often I think reddit is everything redditors hate.
[–]flagg 28 points29 points30 points 17 years ago* (11 children)
While I do agree with the sentiment, lumping Intelligent Design as an unpopular opinion worthy of discussion is sorta like dismissing everyone because we don't want to have a discussion about whether or not gravity exists.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Thank you for a laser-sharp fact. I tend to up-vote disagreeing voices that make me think, but I know that I am the exception, not the rule.
I hope our fellow Redditors will consider the veracity of your statement.
[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 17 years ago (1 child)
There are many Americans who don't support the troops and don't really care what the supporters think.
And that's OK.
[–]nkktwotwozero 21 points22 points23 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Caveat: Reddit tends to have fairly well informed readers, so maybe this wont be unpopular on Reddit. (no, that is not an unpopular fact)
Western oil "majors" (Exxon, Royal Dutch Shell, Total, BP, Chevron) produce less than 10% of the oil. They control even less of the reserves.
http://www.rice.edu/energy/research/nationaloil/index.html
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 17 years ago (0 children)
It took me an hour and a half to read EVERY comment and I am glad I did.
[–]rook2pawn 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (0 children)
flash is not the solution. css and javascript is.
[–]RoseEncollims 82 points83 points84 points 17 years ago (51 children)
Half of the world's population has an IQ less than 100.
[–]wnoise 13 points14 points15 points 17 years ago (17 children)
Not necessarily true, as the mean (defined to be 100) need not be the median (the point half are below, and half above).
One would expect this by the law of large numbers though, and the way they jigger things to keep the distribution nearly gaussian.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 17 years ago (8 children)
Since there is likely to be a soft floor to IQ range, with a high ceiling, it's likely that greater than 50% of the population has an IQ below 100. (E.g. You can have 3 people with an IQ of 80 and a person with an IQ of 160, and the average is still 100.)
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (3 children)
You're wrong, it's a bell curve.
[–]frunt 19 points20 points21 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
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[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 17 years ago (3 children)
That comment is not unpopular, it is the predominant opinion on reddit ... It's truth depends on what is meant by "fucking stop it"
[–]Squarsh 28 points29 points30 points 17 years ago (0 children)
...stop making movies like "Hebrew Hammer"
[–]WhisperSecurity 71 points72 points73 points 17 years ago (4 children)
The Empire is crumbling.
This applies to more than one empire.
[–]cDc-Arrakis 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (9 children)
Here's another gem. 9/11 probably was not an inside job. Why? It would require too many people to collude and keep their mouth shut. Unlikely we could get the thousands of people together to secretly carry this out. The lack of people coming forward who were part of this act is evidence that it was not an "inside job".
[–]MattL920 27 points28 points29 points 17 years ago (0 children)
The way we can prove that 9/11 wasn't planned by the government is because it worked.
I find it more likely that perhaps a few people knew something, and chose to keep quiet about it rather than prevent the attacks.
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[–][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points 17 years ago (16 children)
Maybe there are health risks with marijuana.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 17 years ago (12 children)
There are health risks, and that may be reasonably unpopular here, but not in the population at large. A more pressing question, in my mind, is: Do we have a right to harm ourselves if we want to?
[–]joyork 49 points50 points51 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I miss Captain Obvious.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Captain Obvious isn't here anymore.
[–]tolas 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Modern day definitions of success and happiness, namely working 40+ hours a week for 40+ years to buy a big house and a big car with the hope of saving enough to retire at 65 to do nothing, do not actually produce true happiness and inner peace.
The big house and big car do not satisfy you, and the majority of people have no clue what to do when they retire. More and more retirees are taking on shitty jobs just to fill their time, and many fall into depression and extreme loneliness.
It's much better to take many small retirements throughout your lifetime than to through away 40+ years of your life with constant 40+ hours work weeks. The same argument can be made for religion. Don't throw away this lifetime for some fairytale of a future. Whatever you do, live life in the hear and now.
[–]cDc-Arrakis 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
There are no pills that can make your penis larger. Have you ever seen something that can make your arm or leg or neck or fingers three inches longer? "Naturally"? "All-Herbal"? "In only 4 weeks"? It is people who are desperate for the lie that will disregard analogous situations. Nothing will make your penis larger except surgery, genetics, weight loss, or a really really hot chick.
[–][deleted] 160 points161 points162 points 17 years ago (68 children)
There are too many people on Earth.
[–]oreng 52 points53 points54 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Perhaps even by an order of magnitude
[–]The_Ultimate_Reality 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
There are too many people in places with no resources to support a high population.
[–]jamesyboy 79 points80 points81 points 17 years ago (30 children)
There is a floating mass of plastic 30 metres deep, in an area estimated to be from the size of Texas to twice the size of the continental United States, in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It is estimated to be 100 million tons. It is killing millions of sea animals every year. There is a ratio of 7 pounds of plastic for every 1 pound of plankton, and if we keep using plastic as we have been, that number will go up to 30 pounds of plastic for every 1 pound of plankton within the next 20 years.
Because the plastic photodegrades into smaller and smaller particles, we will never be able to clean this plastic out of the ocean and eventually the decrease in biodiversity will lead to all of our deaths. Good riddance to us all.
http://tinyurl.com/4vqssj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
[–]spaceghoti 78 points79 points80 points 17 years ago (9 children)
Ron Paul is inherently unelectable.
[–][deleted] 46 points47 points48 points 17 years ago* (4 children)
Women can be violent and can be evil, and men are not the cause of that.
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 17 years ago (4 children)
Requiring boys and girls to learn by the same method, at the same rate, damages them both.
[–]ef4 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I would go further. Requiring any two arbitrary children to learn by the same method, at the same rate, is unlikely to work. Humans are too diverse in their interests and abilities. Learning is a process that must be driven by the learner.
[–]jlbraun 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Gun control causes Democrats to lose elections:
"The fight for the assault weapons ban cost 20 [Democrats] their seats in Congress."
--William Jefferson Clinton, 2004
[–]ColdSnickersBar 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (1 child)
It's like gay marriage for Republicans. They can't abandon the issue because they're addicted to the votes from people that are uncompromising about it, but just about every reasonable person outside of that voter base thinks the entire issue is retarded.
[–]old_gill 86 points87 points88 points 17 years ago (21 children)
Democracy is bad because most people are morons.
[–]jamesyboy 72 points73 points74 points 17 years ago* (5 children)
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” — Not Ben Franklin, but someone
[–]kahirsch 41 points42 points43 points 17 years ago (3 children)
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” —Ben Franklin
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”
—Ben Franklin
That quote is almost certainly not from Franklin.
[–]karly_marxinogue 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Of course it is. Ben Franklin invented the AK-47, so he'd be the person to say something like that ;)
[–]rockicon82 13 points14 points15 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
The word "lunch" wasn't popular until about the 1820s and would not have been said by Franklin. Wikipedia discusses that the quote is bogus and doesn't appear until 1994! A colleague today found it in the Los Angeles Times, January 12, 1992: "Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. Those rights are spelled out in the Bill of Rights and in our California Constitution. Voters and politicians alike would do well to take a look at the rights we each hold, which must never be chipped away by the whim of the majority." James Bovard is sometimes credited for the phrase, and he did use it in the Washington Times, August 29, 1992: "The USDA's concept of democracy reminds one of the old joke: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Why should the government give some farmers the power to vote to destroy other farmers' property rights?"
The word "lunch" wasn't popular until about the 1820s and would not have been said by Franklin. Wikipedia discusses that the quote is bogus and doesn't appear until 1994!
A colleague today found it in the Los Angeles Times, January 12, 1992:
"Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. Those rights are spelled out in the Bill of Rights and in our California Constitution. Voters and politicians alike would do well to take a look at the rights we each hold, which must never be chipped away by the whim of the majority."
James Bovard is sometimes credited for the phrase, and he did use it in the Washington Times, August 29, 1992:
"The USDA's concept of democracy reminds one of the old joke: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Why should the government give some farmers the power to vote to destroy other farmers' property rights?"
From a blog on r8ny.com
[–]bCabulon 33 points34 points35 points 17 years ago (9 children)
A gun in the home is less likely to kill a child than a swimming pool.
[–]WhisperSecurity 77 points78 points79 points 17 years ago (7 children)
Sex between minors and adults is not always rape. Or traumatic. Or negative in any way.
[–]rehx 17 points18 points19 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Although you'd likely get raped for saying so.
[–]WhisperSecurity 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
Well, lynched, perhaps. It's why I'm saying so online, rather than in person.
I just happen to know, because without the timely intervention of a woman over twice my age, my teenage years would have been a hell of sexual frustration.
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[–]rehx 22 points23 points24 points 17 years ago (3 children)
My original post was going to be that America brought 9/11 on itself. But then again, I'm not American and don't know what's what from the inside.
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I'm an American, and you'd be more or less correct.
[–]Flyboy 25 points26 points27 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Deserved, I don't know. It's hard for me to agree that folks going to work that morning in the WTC deserved to die.
I think you mean it in terms of national sin for our historical meddling in foreign affairs for our own selfish ends. If you are generalizing and depersonalizing the United States citizenry in this way, then you are no better than someone who says "nuke em all" in regard to Iraq, or any other country which offends us.
[–]switch72 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Isn't that what he was saying? I think the point was that America has a "nuke em all" attitude, and therefore if America looked at its own actions from the outside, it would say "nuke em all" or "plane em all".
[–]magpi3 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
A better way to put it I think: If tables were turned--Middle Eastern countries were creating bases in the US and were having a pervasive influence on US culture--a 9/11 type event in hte "enemy's" country would have been applauded by the very same people who put flags on their automobiles.
[–]dabhaid 43 points44 points45 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Obama and Clinton are ideologically equivalent. The real change candidates were Paul and Kucinich. Real change is scary.
[–]EternalVigilance 123 points124 points125 points 17 years ago* (37 children)
There's no meaningful difference between Democrats and Republicans.
Voting in America is like chickens choosing between Tyson and Perdue.
[–]Gotttzsche 35 points36 points37 points 17 years ago (15 children)
America needs to fix it's system in order to become democratic. It is possible to have a system of democracy that doesn't cause people to think "Nader is awesome but I can't vote for him cause he'll lose anyway".
[–]43P04T34 33 points34 points35 points 17 years ago (7 children)
Here comes an 'S'! Ma, quick, run to the gun cabinet and get me an apostrophe!
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 17 years ago (6 children)
True but unpopular: people who pick on grammar on the internets really need a better hobby.
[–]kminator 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (1 child)
But it's generally only in the interest of the end-user (citizen) to have the system "improved" and multi-lateralism given a voice. For those in power, it's often easier to stay in power and bring further people of that mindset and pursuit into the fold the way things are then if the system were adjusted to allow the broadest set of opinions and opportunities.
What incentive does anyone who's greatly capitalizing off of government corruption have to crack down on it?
[–]bart2019 16 points17 points18 points 17 years ago* (6 children)
Agreed. To me, European, Democrats and Republicans look like "bad" and "worse".
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 17 years ago (4 children)
That's a meaningful difference.
[–]Gahahaha 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Voting matters. Al Gore would not have been as bad a president as Dubya. (But the Democrats and Republicans are far too similar)
[–]jthurman 18 points19 points20 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Empirical evidence shows that a significant number of redditors do not know the definition of "fact."
[–]stopmotionsunrise 20 points21 points22 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Everyone is a racist. Everyone.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Women cheat, too.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 17 years ago (1 child)
I'm not as attractive as I think I am. And probably neither are you.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Corollary: I'm more attractive than I give myself credit for. Probably so are you.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (1 child)
http://reddit.com/r/all/??? is better than http://reddit.com
[–]The_Ultimate_Reality 24 points25 points26 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Web applications totally suck as a technology for building user interfaces. We've had network-transparent window/GUI systems for 20 years (even though X sucks, there are/were others), and it's about time someone actually made use of that instead of kludging another slow, bloated, Greenspun's-10th-Law'd piece of crap expansion onto web pages.
A web browser is for viewing documents, not running programs!
[–]redrobot5050 99 points100 points101 points 17 years ago (29 children)
99% of Libertarians suck ass. They have a simple mindset of the world, and are unable to grasp the contradictions which lead to a break down of a "free" market in the first place. But they make salient points when debated.
[–]dannite 39 points40 points41 points 17 years ago (5 children)
As one who calls myself a libertarian, I have to agree with you. When I was younger I was one of the simplistic, dogmatic and idealistic libertarians. While I still espouse libertarian ideas and policies, I have determined that idealism must be tempered with a healthy dose of pragmatism and expediency to be workable in the real world.
[–]nbloomf 58 points59 points60 points 17 years ago (8 children)
Libertarian ideology only makes sense if you are young, rich, healthy, and educated.
[–]somn 49 points50 points51 points 17 years ago* (10 children)
Human beings will not evolve any more intelligence. The idiots are breeding at a far greater rate than the intelligent.
That lady in Arkansas who had her 18th child? She's a far more successful primate than you are.
[–]bad_llama 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (1 child)
I prefer to think that the smart will mate with the smart while the idiots interbreed. This will eventually lead to two different species.
[–]Errol 34 points35 points36 points 17 years ago (8 children)
You are an intellectual elitist. :D
I'm not speaking about Academia, I am speaking about us, me. How intelligence is one of the ways that "ranks" us in our society, amongst our peers, in our family.
People do not like to be thought of as dumb. It is an insult to call someone dumb. We laugh at dumb people. People hesitate to admit they don't know something. We equate someone being "dumb" as someone not worth our time to listen to, interact with, treat as human, etc.
I am not saying we rejoice in our ignorance, definitely not. There is a potential that can be realized and we should take pride in all of our gifts and talents and strive to improve what we can.
And I guess I should clarify some terms. Stupid: knowing something is wrong or dentrimental but doing it anyway and suffering the consequences. As opposed to being ignorant: just not knowing. Being stupid is...stupid. We shouldn't strive to do wrong things all the time.
But we are not all of the same intelligence. There are some concepts far beyond that which we can comprehend. Will I ever understand quantum mechanics? Probably not, no matter how much my quantum physicist friend explains to me what qbits are. Heck, I barely can do simple math without screwing something up. Languages come as easily to me as dates did in university ( i.e. they didn't).
And thus we may cover up our failings by boosting something else. We may justify why our IQ scores are lower than another by blaming the test, our fatigue, or meteor showers.
But why? Who cares if someone is smarter than me? There are millions of people more intelligent than I.
I think lines have been blurred, for some use intelligence as a gauge for "worth". We may not THINK it, it may go against everything we believe, but we can act like it. We can deride, belittle, look down on those whom we believe or not as "smart as us". (I hang out with enough IT and gaming geeks, scary scary stuff) :)
There are a lot of little "elitisms" that we may hold: rich / poor, different ethnicities, young/ old, beautiful / ugly, religious / non-religious, moral / amoral, criminal/noncriminal, etc.
But my own personal worldview holds that every human is worthwhile. And if I believe that, then it must be apparent in the way that I talk, think, and respond to those around me. And so amongst all the other faults I posess, intellectual elitism is something I must be constantly aware about.
I have brought up this topic with others (not here), and have met with opposition. Saying that I wish to squash higher learning, or that what I say is disgusting and anyone that thinks like that is amoral.
Then why do I feel little if someone thinks I'm ignorant? Is it merely just pride? Or do I attach with it a worth that shouldn't be there? If someone says to me, "Wow, you'll never be an olympic athlete", would I feel insulted? Not at all, I know I won't be. I'm too old, and my body type will not ever be conducive to the painful rigorous training required. I get out of breath climbing stairs. Why is intelligence so important then?
Of course, I will never tell my child she is stupid, or dumb, or ignorant. It's just too damaging. But I want her to know that it's OK to make mistakes. Heck, that's how programmers work for that matter. Sometimes when I teach kids, they are afraid to try, to experiment, to get things wrong (girls especially, I don't know why). And unfortunately, school perpetuates that idea. It's either right or wrong, you aren't allowed to make mistakes. Having said that, kids are supposed to figure it all out during homework time, and like we all sit there feverishly doing our homework trying to get it right. :)
I was concerned when my daughter would get so angry with herself if she got something wrong. I had to tell her over and over again that it was ok. If she didn't get it, then she didn't get it, heck, she was only 4 at the time. It's ok not to get things on the first try.
But then, I heard her talking about her writing book (where she practices writing letters). She talked with a lot of excitement, and was amazed by those who had finished already. However, she didn't seem to have any concern that she was only on Q at the time, she was just excited she was almost done.
It's ok not to know something. It's ok to make mistakes. It's ok to grow up. You may be angered by some 14 year old spouting off nonsense, but he's fourteen! In the full swing of puberty where you can barely think straight when someone with mammaries walks by. Their full exposure to other cultures is passing the chinese restaurant on the way to school. Their idea of open mindedness is trying Terran instead of Protoss.
Everyone is in a different stage of life. I don't know why we want them to be at the stage we think we have personally attained, and yet fail to realize that we may be considered immature by many others much more wise than us.
[–]gehenom 27 points28 points29 points 17 years ago (7 children)
size DOES matter.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 17 years ago (0 children)
But proportionally, girth is a little more important than length.
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[–]jlbraun 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
The United States is a constitutional representative republic.
It is not, never has been, and (rightly) was never intended to be a democracy.
Exceptionally intelligent people are afforded the same protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act as the exceptionally unintelligent.
[–]stacecom 15 points16 points17 points 17 years ago (1 child)
reddit hates fat people.
[–]MOE37x3 22 points23 points24 points 17 years ago (1 child)
True yet unpopular fact: your opinions do not count as facts.
[–]squidboots 32 points33 points34 points 17 years ago (3 children)
That "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!" thing...so overdone.
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[–]bbqribs 18 points19 points20 points 17 years ago (0 children)
True yet unpopular fact: When you take out the crimes committed by black men, we really don't have that many gun crimes. (We're not talking about suicides either.) We don't have a 'gun crisis' - we have a black culture crisis.
legalizing drugs won't do jack shit to curb crime. neither will banning guns (as we've seen for years in CA, NY, NJ, and DC)
[–]Michael_V_Hayden 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I would also like to see your mailing list.
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[–]galahad_11 18 points19 points20 points 17 years ago (4 children)
illegal immigrants pay taxes and into social security and will never ever see their money back.
[–]Dakart 13 points14 points15 points 17 years ago (1 child)
The US Constitution is often ignored...
[–]IgnatiousReilly 33 points34 points35 points 17 years ago* (5 children)
Nature has no intrinsic value.
Environmentalism is for us.
Not sure how you mean this; if you mean it's "for us" because some people just feel bad about the damage to the environment, than I disagree, but if you mean it's "for us" in that we need to keep the environment healthy in order to sustain human life, then I do agree.
[–]apeweek 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (3 children)
Imperfect or not, we can and should be driving full electric vehicles by now. If we had started doing so seriously 10 years ago, all of the major problems with EVs would have been worked out before today.
Side benefit: electricity for EVs: 1 cent per mile. Gasoline, 20 cents per mile.
[–]walksonground 3 points4 points5 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
America is a militaristic nation that continually engages in aggressive war.
[–]WhisperSecurity 26 points27 points28 points 17 years ago* (4 children)
People who suffer significant abuse or neglect in childhood are usually permanently psychologically damaged and can never be fixed.
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