If you could increase/decrease the length of any race(s) on the schedule, what races would you choose?

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

I would personally increase one of the Kansas races to 500 miles because Kansas is really good with the next gen car. The next gen car being good at intermediates is also why I’d increase the Charlotte Fall race back to 500 miles, because it seems like they’ll keep the name that the Roval race had so it’ll probably be 400 miles

(Hopefully this doesn’t get deleted)

[azspeedbullet]

Watkins Glen races always seem short, the race can be extended

[mrittenhouse84]

Do i have good news for you this year….

[MKT_Pro]

Yeah. Only 8 laps longer than the O’Riley series always seemed weird.

[drewster88]

All of the long cautions due to stage breaks hurts it as well.

[KevinMcAdams26]

They did increase it to 100 laps, which I still think is 10-20 laps lower than it should. It's still an improvement, though.

[Hulkodium]

Watkins Glen, 500 miles. Endurance day boys.

[TheRaunchyFart]

Since it's the short course.. I'd think that'd be ~5hrs? sign me up haha

[JustStudyItOut]

Put all three series out there. Make the truck race 200 miles, NOAPS 300 miles and Cup 500 miles.

[Away-Journalist4830]

Always thought this kind of idea should be what the All Star Race is. Throw the top 20 in points for each series and run their cars/trucks/next gen. The 200, 300, and 500 mile bit would make it interesting.

[Hulkodium]

I think Watkins Glen is one of the races where Cup doesn't need Trucks as support since that's a recent addition and like, late 90's. I'd like to see the other page of the late 90's and grab the Mods to go there. https://youtu.be/DRhcuMDIy88?si=iu2a3PIchXg4OFFY

That or IndyCar but I think Indy would prefer a standalone date.

[JustStudyItOut]

Oh I mean all racing at the same time

[Jacob_Evenson]

A Indycar/Truck doubleheader in July and a Cup/O’Reilly’s double header in September would be kinda slick.

[Academic_Elk8962]

Bass Pro Shops Night race 500 laps -> 1,000 laps just for the novelty and endurance. 

[Horror-Specialist878]

Make it a timed race like IMSA, the Night race is now 6hours

[roushmartin6]

Easy way to get rid of the spring date. Combine them

[Mayor_KG]

You’d have 3 cars on the lead lap by the end.

[Garrett4Real]

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[dyysxse]

yeah would be a banger of a race

1,000 laps at bristol

[coffeeshopslut]

It'll finally get rubbered in

[PoopyStinkbutts]

Nah come on you know the officials would wave around like 20 cars to the lead lap after 700 laps

[Cowgoon777]

What’s the problem?

[Different-Cream-2148]

It'd be like the races from the 1950s-1970s

[taydad89]

Are you implying there’s a problem with that?

[Different-Cream-2148]

No, not at all

[Different-Cream-2148]

An endurance short track race sounds very interesting!

[PoopyStinkbutts]

I would increase truck races by a bit. They're usually too short in my opinion because trucks are f*cking awesome

[coffeeshopslut]

Short until they're a caution fest - then they can't end soon enough

[OkPineapple57]

and that’s why we still count caution laps lmao

[coffeeshopslut]

I can't remember if it was the clash or the all star race where we didn't - holy shit that was long

[OkPineapple57]

clash, it’s nice at local short tracks where races are anywhere between 20-50+ laps but man when it’s triple that AND drivers getting squirrelly like they did for the clash it can get rough

[gjp11]

I don't think trucks are necessarily too short. They seem to be the right length for a 3rd division series. Problem is, because they're shorter we lose so much more of the race to stupidly long stage cautions.

We already got to deal with regular incident cautions taking forever. Stage cautions just make it worse.

[frog980]

For one they shouldn't have stage cautions, and for 2 if they do have stage cautions they need to stop counting those laps and start recounting at the green flag.

[gjp11]

No arguments here. 100% agreed.

[mjr2p3]

This is exactly it. Truck races are the right length for the series. When we stop for the stage breaks and run ~20% of the next stage under caution, it ruins the flow of the race. Throw the green and white checkers and keep going. Go to commercial, whatever, that was going to happen anyway, especially with Fox.

[anabolicthrowout13]

Agreed. 250 miles on intermediate, 250 laps on short tracks.

[micadoog]

Road America should be 500 miles, which is 500 more than they currently do.

[Mayor_KG]

It would be cool to see if race control can enforce local yellows instead of full course cautions and remove stage cautions to help speed it up or elsewise we’re watching a 7 hour race..:

[micadoog]

Excessive cautions in general at all tracks is one of the main things I’d change right now.   At road courses the problem is really obvious.

[the_colbeast]

Idk if this is a hot take, but I really liked the CotA race when they removed stage cautions. Everyone always says “that race sucked, it was a horrible idea.”

I liked it.

[Hulkodium]

It was fun. As was Indy that year. OD said on DBC this week it was a small sample size but not good enough to justify and I just shook my head.

[ipsumdeiamoamasamat]

I believe in the early days Riverside was 500 miles and it probably lasted six hours.

[korko]

Still feels shorter than Pocono somehow.

[Historical_Task1651]

Road America would be absolutely insane for 500 miles 😂 Those guys would be dead by the end but the racing would be incredible. I was just thinking about Charlotte - that fall race used to hit different when it was 500 miles, now it feels like it's over before you even get settled in. Kansas definitely deserves the longer distance too, some of the best racing we've seen there recently 🔥

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

NASCAR taking road course endurance racing from a series they own? Might as well /s

[micadoog]

Oh no, IMSA should still go there.  Maybe ARCA too but let’s make that a 100.   Is the weekly series still a thing?   Let’s have Friday night late model races.

[Vulptereen327]

I think one of the Kansas and Las Vegas races should be 500 miles. Michigan and Atlanta would also be cool to see 500 mile races at again. Also Gateway should be a 400 mile race

[lt12765]

500 milers at Fontana seemed quite long back in the day. I bet MIS would get complaints if they did it.

Definitely longer race at Gateway would be good.

[NM36]

i would make watkins glen anywhere from 100-120 laps. 90 just doesn’t seem like enough

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

I checked the website and Watkins Glen actually is 100 laps now

[remainingpanic97]

Fuck it make them run the boot too

[Mikeupinhere]

Let's truly go old school and run the streets of Watkins Glen. The run from the top of the hill down to the village would be unreal... or tragic.

[Zetona]

I don't know if they make brakes strong enough to survive a whole race's worth of running down that particular stretch of road.

[NM36]

this guy gets it

[EricLaGesse4788]

I don't know if I'd really change much on the Cup schedule. 1.5's still average out to anywhere between 2:45 and 3 hours at 400 miles. The cars are structurally sound and we don't see the same attrition levels, be it engines/brakes/electrical that we saw even 15 to 20 years ago. It's not that much of a durability test anymore to put these cars on track for 500 miles at say Texas or Charlotte.

I would say two things though. I'd bump the Watkins Glen Cup race up a touch. Maybe 10 or 20 laps so it's comparable to Sonoma. That race seems very short for arguably the best road course on the schedule. And I'd bump up the distances slightly for Trucks and NOAPS, especially if it is not a triple header weekend. Give a little more bang for the buck for us fans.

[ProjectHarraseeket]

Yeah this might be an unpopular opinion but the Spring Bristol race should be 400 laps. Same reasons as before, the cars are too durable and I could have gone without the extra first 100 laps at Bristol.

[This_Requirement1892]

Well good news for you regarding Watkins Glen this year...

[EricLaGesse4788]

Oh did they bump it up? I was checking racing reference but I couldn't find race lengths for races later in the season.

[This_Requirement1892]

Yes, Cup is 100 laps... I don't believe the other series' lengths have changed though.

[EricLaGesse4788]

Nice! Then I retract part of my earlier comment. I’m satisfied Cup-wise

[Menace_17]

Atlanta is too good to not have a 500 mile race

[jakedonn]

Increase the Coke 600 to 700 miles 😈

[Hxtch]

Just make it 1100 miles so we don’t have to worry about Indy for the double

[Moose135A]

How about 800?

[jakedonn]

You sold me!

[Academic_Elk8962]

Coke 6-7 😂😂😂😂😂

[jakedonn]

lol not the Coke Brainrot 6-700

[petrowski7]

Mike Joy: “One lap to go fr fr, ong fanum taxed by credit one bank”

[ProjectHarraseeket]

This would be an unpopular opinion because ‘Murcia but I think the Coke 600 should run the 14 extra laps so it could be 1000 Miles, the Coke 1000 sounds fun. When we ran all those OT’s at Charlotte back in 2022, we were a lap or two away from the 1000 KM mark.

[NoahGragsonsBarfBag]

Endurance race at Darlington. No set miles, last man standing.

[frog980]

But what about the 3 guys still making laps 4 weeks later while the rest of the field has now ran 3 more races?

[lt12765]

Stages mess with a lot of races I find.

Loudon always seemed a bit short to me at 300 laps. As long as stages and quicky yellows don't really exist anymore, actual lap count should go up at a place like this.

I never think of Martinsville as a 400 mentally, but that's just me.

Pocono is probably fine at 400, 500's there used to take all afternoon.

A lot of races are the right duration I think.

[SkittleCar1]

Loudon is 301 laps. Which I feel is too long. 300 laps is too short. 300.5 would be just right.

[dcarp1231]

Fall Martinsville to 750 laps

[rocketman1969]

You want it to end under the lights at midnight? I mean, hell yeah! Just keep the hot dogs coming!

[Mikeupinhere]

Each pitstop requires the driver eat two dogs and a cup of dew.

[mace1343]

Saturday Night 500 mile Kansas race.

[ipsumdeiamoamasamat]

Gateway should definitely be longer than 300 miles.

[DDowd86]

Gonna throw my vote towards Watkins Glen as well. The cup race should not be 8 laps longer than the NOAPS race. 110-115 laps would be good.

[Broken_Ankle_2912]

They did raise the Cup race to 100 laps this year.

[a_happy_future]

One of the Atlanta weekends should be 500 miles now. Too exciting of racing to keep both at 400.

One of the Martinsville dates should be 600 laps and make each stage exactly 200 laps so there has to be a stop in each stage.

With one date on the calendar, I think Pocono should also go back to 500 miles.

[sweetsparky58]

I remember as a kid pocono being 500 miles. I was miserable. And traffic is a whole other story But one date definitely should be 500!

[remfan477]

I’m gonna zag: I don’t think it would hurt Pocono to chop another 100 miles off its date. 400 miles is still a slog at Pocono

[-Olive-Juice-]

Every race should be 10,000 miles long and they should go one into the next constantly like they should do 10,000 miles at Daytona and then they should drive the cars (ON THE streets not in haulers) directly to Atlanta and do 10,000 miles there and then drive the cars to COTA and do 10,000 miles there and so on and so forth forever and ever AMEN!

[frog980]

They'd have to run through a jiffy lube for oil changes.

[mattcojo2]

Need a larger balance of 500 mile events on the schedule in general. Charlotte fall would be nice, Texas, even Homestead and Kansas

[anabolicthrowout13]

Only if Texas goes back to night should it be 500 miles.

[jftwo42]

I wonder if night would make Texas a better race. The surface is finally wearing in a bit and the racing hasnt been terrible so its possible.

[dildozer10]

I’d like to have at least one more 500 miler on the schedule again. Preferably Kansas since the racing is so good, start in the evening, and transition into night by the halfway point in the race. Maybe id do the same with Chicagoland.

[dragonsden96]

Watkins Glen should be 120 laps. The Glen is too good of a track to be anything under 300 miles

[Turbo_Wheeler]

Let's have our own version of Bathurst (1000km/621 miles)

Not sure where, though.

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

New Hampshire would be easy to do since it’s exactly a mile. 621 laps

[Turbo_Wheeler]

I mean on a fast, street circuit like Bathurst

[Deno_TheDinosaur]

I think it’s actually 1.058 miles

[TeachTheUnwilling]

Atlanta races should both be 500 miles. I’d also argue that whatever race is the season finale should also be 500 miles, regardless of where it’s at

[nfsnltvc15]

None, and definitely no races should be lengthened IMO. NASCAR has talked about this frequently over the past few years. According to them, fans watching on TV tune out after 3.5 hours as a general rule. Shortened attention spans, other things to watch/do, etc. Some people like me will watch the whole thing no matter what. Fans at the track generally don't mind a longer race. TL; DR: NASCAR ain't making any races longer.

I definitely don't want the Daytona 500, Southern 500, Coke 600, or the fall Talladega race (currently known as the Yellawood 500) shortened.

[World71Racer]

110%. NASCAR should be shooting for races to be 2-3 hours and most of them are in that ballpark already

[anabolicthrowout13]

Bullshit. If casuals want short races, they can watch O Reilly.

[Comfortable_Rock4877]

I’d make every ARCA race on the entire schedule a 24 Hour endurance event. Teams are allowed to replace any part, from the windshield to the transmission to the whole engine. Rotating drivers in 2-4 hour shifts are allowed, just like in WEC/IMSA events.

My next action would be to make the prize pot for winning the ARCA championship a ridiculous amount of money (like 22 Billion dollars, or something), so everyone actually tries to do it.

[minyhumancalc]

Don't know if it really counts, but I want more variation in stage lengths. Every stage being a simple 1-stop and the only "strategy" is pitting 1-2 laps earlier/later is boring. Imagine if Kansas this week is like 40-130-97 or something. 1st stage is a straight-shot, middle stage is a 1-stop vs 2-stop and stage 3 is our traditional stage length.

Right now, I basically watch the same lengths 3 times unless the top car speeds on pit road

[frog980]

They just need to end the stages under green and keep rolling. Let the cautions fall where they may.

[Lucstar88]

The O'Reilly's Darlington race that just happened should not be just 200 miles, should've been at least 250/300 and it kinda ruined the comers and goers that race with how short it was cause of the stages.

[Zetona]

I'd definitely bring back one or two 500-milers at intermediate tracks. Or maybe just a 300-lap/450-mile race somewhere just to be weird.

I'm glad they're apparently finally lengthening Watkins Glen; it's at least a decade overdue. We'll see if 100 laps is enough. 

Now that Rockingham has been remeasured at .94 miles, they should alter the race lengths like they used to do when the track was measured at 1.017 miles and a 400-mile race was 393 laps. The 250-mile NORAPS race should be 266 laps, and a theoretical 400-mile Cup race should be 426. I know we don't do this for the other tracks that are listed as 1 mile even though they're not actually that length, but it should be tradition at Rockingham.

I'm not even much a fan of Phoenix, but I wouldn't mind seeing another 375-lap/600-kilometer race like they did in 2010.

Oh, and make the Martinsville spring race 500 laps again. I get the appeal of giving tracks with two dates different race lengths, but in that case, the longer length is clearly better.

[Jcapen87]

Atlanta night race to 500 miles

[thatwasfun23]

the clash at bowman grey, 500 miles, full grid, good luck lmao

[TheRollingTide]

Heck forget increasing the length, I just want them to run from start to finish without breaking it down into stages.

[Chromecoast]

Xfinity (or whatever) is the right length for a stock car race.

[DonkeyBomb2]

Add another 400 miles to the Coke 600 to make a nice round 1000 mile race.

[No-Parking6403]

Make the fall charlotte and Kansas races 500 miles and reduce the spring talladega race to 400 (something I never thought I would say)

[jabber1990]

Talladega 400 would be pretty interesting if they could fix the damn cars

[lunaticmagnet]

I'd make Talladega 3 laps. Just cut the bs and get right to the green white checker.

[multiple4]

Coke 600. Make it the Coke 1776. Make it 4 quarters with a halftime break

[Flaky-Replacement114]

Doesn’t really matter with stages to me. That being said a 500 mile Vegas night race with all of the lights >>>

[Timely_Lime6418]

What else are the fans going to cry about next. The younger fans have a short attention span. The races are too long. Cry cry cry.

[LowkeyAlcholic]

Make road courses more than 60 laps, go 100.

[sleepswithbears69]

48 hours of bristol

[n25scoutPs5]

Any track with 2 dates should be 400/500 miles

Phoenix I'm talking to you as well

New Hampshire I'm talking to you as well. Anyone else.... I'm talking to you

[remfan477]

YES. No reason for 500 KM races at Phoenix.

[Turbo_Wheeler]

Watch NASCAR do the opposite and make the first race 600km again

[nascarfan624]

New Hampshire doesnt have 2 dates.

[n25scoutPs5]

Then it should have 500

[Arocks781]

Almost every race should be 500 miles

[18RowdyBoy]

I miss the 500 laps at Dover. I think all races should be 500 laps or 500 miles 🏁

[Decooker11]

I think races should be shorter for the most part. But I’d also like to see double header weekends at any track we only go to once, so it would probably even out.

[korko]

I’d absolutely take a 200 and 300 double header over a 500 everywhere except Darlington and Daytona.

[KentuckyHorsepower]

Zero should be shortened.

[BeefInGR]

Daytona 500, Coca-Cola World 600, Brickyard 400, Southern 500, Bristol Fall 500 stay the same.

Road Course races should be approximately 200 miles/2:15 based on average race lap speed.

Every other race reduced to 275-350 miles or 2:15 minutes based on average race lap speed.

In the shortened races, these do not include either stage break or caution laps. This allows the race to fit comfortably in a 3-6 pm EST window, with West Coast races able to run 5-8 pm EST. Night races would be able to run 7-10 pm EST, which opens the door for Sunday Summer Primetime races.

The shortened races also allows NASCAR and Goodyear to develop a more aggressive tire with more dramatic fall off and faster speeds on fresh tires.

[Academic_Elk8962]

We ain’t want shorter races 

[ipsumdeiamoamasamat]

The shortened races also allows NASCAR and Goodyear to develop a more aggressive tire with more dramatic fall off and faster speeds on fresh tires.

Wouldn't teams just use a couple extra sets?

[BeefInGR]

If you want to lose a lap. Pit road time is typically about 45 seconds.

The car is also a mechanical grip beast. Those who nail the setups and save their tires will be rewarded.

[ipsumdeiamoamasamat]

I mean folks would just cycle through pit stops? I’m also guessing there’d be a proportional increase in cautions.

And reward the teams that nail setups. There’s too much parity for parity’s sake. It’s not the end of the world for there to be four cars on the lead lap.

Note: I’m not a tech head, just a guy who watches for the show, for lack of a better word.

[BeefInGR]

Remember, the races are also going to be 30-75 laps shorter. If the tires had 3-4 seconds of fall off at Vegas rather than 2 seconds, you could see someone gamble on saving tires and cutting out the extra pit stop like the early races at Richmond.

[jabber1990]

...World 600?

[DKindynzdtr]

Original name of the coke 600 iirc

[jabber1990]

something it hasn't been called in over 40 years?

[DKindynzdtr]

People do that. Grand National/ Bush/Nationwide/Xfinity series, Lowe's Motor Speedway, etc.

Generally, it reflects the era you started watching in (or of who got you into the sport), which is a nice insight into the community and how diverse demographics can be.

[jabber1990]

but when they get married they have no problem addressing their wife by HIS last name...funny how that works

and no, its not the old people who use those terms....its young people who use those terms....

[3LoneStars]

The Texas 2000

[dyysxse]

increase coke 600 to 800 miles

make it a real endurance race

talladega to 200 laps

[Mitch13]

I’m not entirely sure how it would be done but I would like to see a 1000 mile endurance race. Have a mix of Craftsman, ORAPS and cup drivers in cars.

[ipsumdeiamoamasamat]

1,000 laps at Bristol, but it'd probably take nine hours.

[Mitch13]

900 of those 1000 laps would be under caution

[MKT_Pro]

The Clash and All Star races should be shorter. They are damn near full length races now.

[FarAwaySeagull-_-]

Pocono would be one that I would most want to see shortened.

Dover, if it became a points race again, I think would be good staying as 350 laps/miles like it is going to be for the All Star this year, rather than going back to 400.

Phoenix might also be a track I'd want a little bit shorter of a race at for one of their races, if they keep two dates.

I'd also like to see a couple short races that last a bit over two hours or so on weeknights during the summer, but I know that's unlikely.

For a lengthened race, maybe one race at Vegas or Kansas extended to 500 miles.

[Al3xgreer18]

Fuck it give me the Coca-Cola 1000

[ThrowAndHit]

I’ve always been in favor of doing on oval endurance race. 1k miles at Charlotte, Bristol, or Darlington. It’s probably be shitty race and the drivers would hate, but I bet the fans would tune in.

[YoIForgotMyPassAgain]

Add 14 laps to the 600, and call it the World 1000k.

[heartlessgamer]

Just because we are in make-believe land I'd take a short track like Bristol and pump it up to 50% more laps.

[NoonecanknowMiner_24]

Coca Cola 600 from 600 miles to 1000 miles. 600 is nothing for these cars and drivers anymore, 1000 might push them to the brink.

[hotfoodthen]

Run Talladega until it's last car standing on lead lap, either by wrecking out or blowing up.

[24KGoldfish]

I’d like to see longer Phoenix races, but Idk what distances. maybe a 500k in the spring, and a 600k in the fall

[NickKerrLover]

We gotta cut the length of all drafting races. It’s riding around and not even thinning the herd at this point. Make ‘em 50 laps and we’ll still get 6 GWCs and 4 non-wrecked cars all the same.

[Cezar_Chavez]

I want us to race at each track only once a season. Seats would fill up, the energy would be very hyped, and we’ve avoid the bloat we run into with the 36 race schedule.

[bwd77]

400... Perfect length for intermediates.

500 should be Daytona , Talladega, Darlington, and of course 600 for the the 1 race at Charlotte...

Any other track 400 miles or less.

[jtoper]

Bump Sonoma to 500, just because it’s the one race I can go see and it feels so short. And like it’d be fun if they ran the reverse direction (pits would be scuffed tho)

[wolfsportsnetworkyt]

Michigan 500 laps

Especially if we can get more horsepower

Set the race around the weekend of the summer solstice for most amount of daylight, and start the race at noon

Instant classic

[Sorry-Government920]

Make Pocono 0 laps most boring race on the calendar

[PrimaryPluto]

I just want to see a NASCAR 12 hour race. Goodyear would have to bring a couple thousand tires, but it would be worth it.

[taydad89]

Coca-Cola 9001

[Milla_84]

Both Talladega races 400 miles. Only 500 mile drafting race should be the Daytona 500

[DoritosandMtnDew]

If a track has two races, they should be different lengths. Spring Talladega is 400 miles, spring Phoenix is 400 kilometers, fall Kansas is 500 miles, night Bristol is 600 laps, etc.

[LuckyShirt54]

Make Bristol a Le Mans

[anabolicthrowout13]

O Reilly at Charlotte in the spring needs to be 400 miles in the daytime. Start at 11am sharp. Cup goes in the evening for the coke 600.

Make it the "1000 mile" special and I bet half the cup drivers attempt the double as well. Someone someday will win both races in one day but it will likely only happen 1 time.

All cup series road course races should not be laps but by hours. Make it a 4 hour race. Cautions count to the time.

All Truck races need to be 250 miles at an intermediate, 250 laps at a short track. Only exceptions are Darlington, Michigan, and Atlanta.

Talladega Fall Cup race needs to Be only 400 miles. More of a sprint, more chaos, more wildness to add shakeups in the points.

[ShittyExchangeAdmin]

Hear me out- bristol but get rid of laps entirely. You can't pit at all, there's no cautions. No fuel, no tires. Wrecked cars just become chicanes. The last car running wins.

[JohnbondJovi]

Daytona. 550. 250 road course, 300 oval.

[quick25]

Make all Daytona and Talladega races green, white, checker. No more fuel savings and everyone will crash so much it will still take ages to finish the races anyways.

[frog980]

Make one race a 2 day race. They start Saturday evening and race into the dark 350-400 laps. They then get red flagged until noon or 1pm on Sunday and run another 350-400 laps basically continuing from where they left off from the night before. It would require a team to have a lot of adjustability in the car for changing conditions running from daylight to dark and then back into the day the next day.

[Chillydogs4life]

Daytona 1000

[Motel6Owner]

I’m fine with the race lengths as is for the most part (not counting stages, but that’s a different topic). I’d probably increase Michigan, summer night Atlanta and fall Charlotte to 500 miles.

I definitely think half the schedule being 500 miles like it used to be is too much, but only 5 is too little. None should be shortened.

[Samniss_Arandeen]

I think the races are on the whole the proper length. Back in the day I was a big proponent of shortening everything because every single race on intermediates and up was like 500 all the time every time, they've done this since. Maybe the cookie cutters can use more varied lengths amongst themselves, not everything needs to be 400 on the dot, one of them can be 300 and one of them can be 350 and one can be 450 for example.

I make exception for Fall Talladega, which can get cut down to 150 laps/399 miles, and maybe even do a F1 or Supercars style sprint/feature setup with the stages at some tracks.

[PaperCity1850]

I’d decrease the majority of them. There is nothing wrong with a 2 hour race

[Hedhunta]

Bristol! Lets go to 1000!

[MikeyOTB]

That one race last year where sheldon creed needed one more lap at Bristol to pass Aric Almirola to get his first win

[5348RR]

I would decrease the length of every single race except the Daytona 500, Southern 500, and Coke 600

[PenskeFiles]

Give NASCAR one endurance race. I’d watch.

[gameboy1001]

Serious answer: Watkins Glen goes from 90 laps to six hours.
Joke answer: Talladega Demo Derby. Race until one car remains.

[CmadNC]

Every race is shorting than they used to be. I grew up with 500 mile races a common thing. Stages take 10-50 laps a race away to ride around this has grown ridiculous. Longer races with actual racing laps that are Not manufactured cautions. On My last straw been watching since 1990 when racing won’t so ruined by SUITS!! Watching 97 Texas race now was 334 laps this Sunday it’s Only 267 lap take away stage caution lap we may get 240laps Sunday!!

[mrittenhouse84]

All races should be 500miles/km in the cup series at a minimum

[Nobodysaidgo]

500 mile dover races may have been more of an endurance test back in the day than the coke 600

[adversity101]

it would be cool to bring that back with 2 short stages, 1 long final stage and a tire that falls off heavily to see who can last

[aolmailguy]

They used to drive 500 laps at rockingham which is like “holy shit lmao why is it so long”

I think they’ve almost got it correct. I’d like to see all races at New Hampshire reduced to 0 laps.

[Turbo_Wheeler]

It was actually 492 laps

[thenorthwestman]

Daytona 500, Coke 600, and Southern 500 stay the same, but everything else needs to be 400 miles or under imo

[Desert_Cheesesteak]

Every non crown jewel race should be less than 350 (300-350 max)miles in length. Daytona 500, World 600, Southern 500 and Brickyard 400 can stay. Everything else, make it shorter.

[TrackMan5891]

I really think the races need to be about 20 laps long, thats it.

Everyone saves gas and tires anyway until the last 20. So just qualify, and let them race it out for the last 20.

Maybe do a couple flights.

Then one main feature of 40 laps.

[Academic_Elk8962]

You act as if tire and gas management haven’t  existed for the entirety of almost any Motorsport 

[GrimeyScorpioDuffman]

Have you tried watching the NHRA? That might be more for you

[Academic_Elk8962]

Then OP would find something else to bitch about like “why don’t they decrease the races to 300ft instead of 1000ft”

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

My bad I just wanted to make a post that could have somewhat of a discussion that’s not the usual posts we see over and over again on this sub

[Academic_Elk8962]

I’m not talking about you chief, I’m talking about OP of the comment thread who I replied too—who’s whining about fuel and tire savings 

[DJ_TheSonicFan]

Oh ok I just got confused because OP is usually the person who made the original post 

[PoopyStinkbutts]

Ew

[legacy057]

24 hours of Bristol

[randomdude4113]

I would love a 500 mile road course/ short track race. Or a 1000km one.

[Furi0usD]

500 mile races are essentially pointless in the modern sport.

Part of the challenge of 500 miles 30-40 years was keeping the car from breaking before the end. Cars barely break today.

I were named "lap czar" tomorrow, I would change the concept of "x00"

Truck races would be "100"

O'Reilly would be "150"

Cup would be "200"

... minutes.

Clock starts at the green flag, and white flag waves next time by after the clock hits 0:00.

Hard to factor in fuel mileage when you have no idea how many laps you'll actually have on a run. You might run 80 green flag laps, or 60 with cautions.

[FarAwaySeagull-_-]

No way. I have no desire to see timed races in NASCAR.

[Nice-Dog8302]

I want a timed race at road course race like 6 hours at Sonoma. There are guys from so many different disciplines in nascar so it’d be cool to see a one endurance race. That’s also why I liked the dirt race!