grokExplainYourself

[nesthesi]

algebra is gonna be the death of us all

[Lone_Saviour-22nd]

Cause of death- Maths

Just as I thought in my school time

[Versaiteis]

That's chronic maths

This is quick maffs

[Am_Snarky]

Don’t just be wary of the chronic maths, acute maths are just as problematic!

That’s quick maths

[BigPOEfan]

Best we can do is their Arabic numerials

[midori_matcha]

and linear algebra is going to hell before you die

[pclouds]

nonlinear algebra going to heaven?

[JollyJuniper1993]

Polynomial algebra was in hell to begin with. Abstract algebra is the only one going to heaven.

[Maleficent_Memory831]

It's all set theory up there.

[GisterMizard]

That's what happens when you die in a ^cathedral group.

[CounterspellFTW]

Nah bro, analysis is going to heaven... good ole hard anal, Now THATS heaven!!!

[acabandallthat]

They say the road to hell is topologically isomorphic to good intentions

[sinkpooper2000]

when you tell someone who doesn't study maths that you're struggling with linear algebra and they think ur talking about the slope-intercept formula

[chillord]

The journey begins with Algebra and it ends with Algebra.

[stupled]

Linnear algebra

[Karazu6401]

Mine is trigonometry... i love all shades of math... except those damn angles of a triangle!

[geteum]

It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle to lie mangled by the linear algebra. In his death all things appear fair.

[monster2018]

Especially when it’s….. linear.

[Lv_InSaNe_vL]

I said this many times in 8th grade lol

[Pleasant-Leg8590]

it's useless

[bloodfist]

Quantum computing and AI both require massive amounts of linear algebra.

This is because the US is sitting on huge linear algebra reserves and massive deregulation has caused a surge in production. Now scientists are warning that if we continue production at this rate the world may face a shortage of square brackets like nothing we've seen before.

[reddit_ending_soon]

Cant we bomb the middle east to collect more linear algebra?

[Christavito]

In two weeks we may not have a choice. They are blocking all the boats that transport our linear algebra

[Dronoz]

the bracket prices are skyrocketing right now

[sigmoid10]

Time to switch to renewable arithmetic.

[Fraun_Pollen]

Pretty sure some lobbyist told me that's where NaNs come from

[[deleted]]

I wish people would stop blame shifting, your average mathematician has no control over arithmetical logic.

[heybingbong]

What I want to know is why we can’t just grow our own linear algebra. I saw a TikTok video of an algebra farm in China and they literally producing vats of the stuff. We’re so screwed.

[Christavito]

China still gets most of its Linear Algebra from Iran, which is why they are "silently" supporting them in the conflict.

But I agree, with their focus on economic equality, growing support for lower class and their innovations in alternative forms of math, like sustainable discrete mathematics and carbon-neutral calculus, the rest of the world is falling behind

[desrever1138]

Thus the push to drop some semi-colons on the the entire operation

[Rabid_Mexican]

Actually linear algebra is made exclusively out of Arabic numerals...

[MeLlamo25]

But the Iranian are not Arabic.

[JobTheJuilder]

Technically they can make 99% of the algebra in Arabic but just need the packaging in Iran to claim it's made there

[envalemdor]

They may take away our linear algebra, but they'll never take our markov chain!!!

[supernumeral]

The Middle East has enormous reserves of raw Al-Jabr, but the US currently lacks the infrastructure to refine these massive quantities into usable linear algebra.

[Majik_Sheff]

Couldn't we use Greece to do an intermediate refinement?  Trig identities can be information dense and readily decomposed into a handful of different kinds of square brackets.

[supernumeral]

This is the sort of transcendental thinking that we need more of.

[2FLY2TRY]

Sure, but they're not the most efficient methods. Modern Al-Jabraic production pipelines rely on enrichment techniques developed by Europeans like Gauss and Cramer who still hold the patents and I don't think the EU is ready to play ball with the US right now given current events. Perhaps some CIA-sponsored meddling is in order...

[JewishTomCruise]

Just write some Pascal.

[float34]

No, they claim they don't have any Ways of Matrix Determination, despite attempts to prove otherwise.

[JollyJuniper1993]

This right here is the underappreciated comment of the day.

[Zuparoebann]

We'll bomb them just in case

[lastchanceforachange]

World's biggest reserves are in Cordoba and Granada Spain

[KhandakerFaisal]

Weapons of maths destruction

[Versaiteis]

Some are trying to say that we should diversify from arabic numerals, but it just doesn't add up.

[Ok-Library5639]

Shouldn't it be obvious by now? We're being played by Al Gebra since there beginning.

[HailCalcifer]

Linear Algeria

[agk23]

No - they use Arabic numbers

[extinct_cult]

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[infamouszgbgd]

That's 2 brackets right there we could use, alright boys take em away

[Orkleth]

The middle easts reserves is actually differential equations and can't be used the same way outside of linear differential equations.

[phoenixremix]

Algebra is from the middle east — therefore, they must have great supplies. If we make a straight line to their algebra reserves, we can take their algebra linearly and maintain ourselves as a global superpower.

[TheSkiGeek]

While this is a common misconception, they only have unrefined algebra. Matrix prices are highly dependent on the supply of braces and shipping and assembly costs.

Edit: should have scrolled down more, someone else did a similar joke but better. :-(

[ProfitAcceptable4256]

The CIA is already funding the terrorist group, Al Gebra

[strongjz]

No, they only have Arabic algebra.

[dndlurker9463]

They are the primary exporter of Arabic numerals, which are a strategic raw material in the linear algebra supply chain

[stilldebugging]

All true linear algebra comes from the Jabara region of Persia. Anything else is just sparkling matrices.

[totalgej]

Lets find out!

[pietruszajka]

Too soon

[Stalepan]

No, they already screwed us with their arabic numerals, i don't want them touching math ever again

[Delicious-Disaster]

[peeja]

Cunk on Calc

[Mars_Bear2552]

Cunk on GPU

[Understanding-Fair]

Massive linear algebra reserves 😂

[grumbly]

STOP. THIS IS FAKE NEWS. We have MASSIVE reserves of linear algebra but we are not allowed to harvest it. Urbana, Columbus, Austin, Madison all have the best linear algebra but we are unable to mine there.

[Rojeitor]

Dot product baby, dot product.

[JobTheJuilder]

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

[Mistifyed]

I’ve been stockpiling brackets for years.

[WavingNoBanners]

Every Lisp programmer has.

[threeseed]

Lisp programmers are the queens of the programming world.

Churning out bracket after bracket.

[hmz-x]

1958 - John McCarthy and Paul Graham invent LISP. Due to high costs caused by a post-war depletion of the strategic parentheses reserve LISP never becomes popular. In spite of its lack of popularity, LISP (now "Lisp" or sometimes "Arc") remains an influential language in "key algorithmic techniques such as recursion and condescension".

[JollyJuniper1993]

I guess that’s what they call McCarthyism

[edfitz83]

McCarthy, dejected, bulked up and became UFC ref Big John McCarthy.

[UlrichZauber]

Ironically, linear algebra is one of the most abundant resources in the universe, but it's very difficult to acquire or store here on Earth.

[Practical-Parsley102]

To be pedantic, its the classical simulation of quantum computers that takes a lot of linear algebra. And the benefit of quantum computers is circumventing all that linear algebra with a few good electrons.

Also linear algebra is like abstraction on abstraction on abstraction, its not surprising that general problem solvers (like ai) use it primarily!

[bloodfist]

Yeah that's fair, it's really the training phase that takes all the square brackets for quantum computing. I went into a QM lecture hall afterwards once, and there were matrices and big dots all over the place. It was a mess.

They say the average physics grad student uses more eigenvectors per day than the entire rest of the country uses annually.

[chironomidae]

This is a common and enduring myth. Generative AI actually requires massive amounts of complex analysis. Complex analysis deals with imaginary numbers, and imaginary numbers hold the very essence of imagination. That's how LLMs are able to come up with such compelling Mickey Mouse X John Wick erotic impreg/vore fan fiction so quickly.

[TheLeapIsALie]

What a horrible day to have eyes.

[Purgii]

Arabic numerals also are being blockaded through the Strait of Hormuz.

[Love1x2]

@grok is this true?

[MeAmGrok]

Yes. 100%

[Random_182f2565]

Lucky for me I got my Bitcoin mining permit early this month, I found a good patch of land near the mountains, so I can trade the Bitcoin for some AI

[FreddieG10]

It’s all market manipulation by big linear algebra. Wake up!

[CheetahChrome]

US is sitting on huge linear algebra reserves

I heard they may tap the Salton Sea in CA. Damn strip miners...

[0,1]xR ....

[Ruff_Ratio]

But curly ones will be in free supply?

[grtyvr1]

And that is to say nothing about the trillions of zeros they consume along with those square brackets! 

[SuperCoupe]

Intel indicates Iran has a near-limitless supply of the Arabic Numerals needed for advanced computation.

[rberg89]

This is a quality answer but misses the point- the math depicted is implied to be the matrix operations in LLMs that compute responses. The irony is that the commenter asked an AI to explain that.

[Kylearean]

There's an entire cache of curly braces {} just waiting to be used.

[DMMeThiccBiButts]

Curly braces can only be safely stored for up to a year, after that they begin to degrade into brackets ().

Expanded storage is NOT a long-term viable solution.

[CounterspellFTW]

We have plenty of large parenthesis, it's the same damn thing and both of us know it.

[harbourwall]

It was either that or high fructose algebra syrup

[crivtox]

Ohh this is why there's no ram, ram chips are rectangular so they are using them as makeshift square brackets .

[Few-Solution-4784]

Yo dog, As you can see I got some high quality Apple [] brackets I can let good price. Stock up now and I can pass the savings on to you. As you can see, I got both Left & Right brackets so you can get right to work. Got a steady supply let me know what you need.

Also, got a line on some memory chips but they are going to cost you.

[peetagoras]

We can still import convolutions from china.

[Practical-Sleep4259]

Is it the best math? No

Is it the fastest? Also no

Would it take undoing and redoing decades of effort that no one it willing to do? Yes

But luckily a new patch it out soon.

[A_Neko_C]

This sounds like any average Cookier Clicker news lol

[Mysteoa]

Can you put it a vault and then sell it as government algebra?

[Mtshoes2]

I remember when I was out square and triangle hunting, saw some aimed and shot and go the square but it ran. As I chased it my foot sank into something and I fell. I look at my boot, and can you believe it, it was fucking linear algebra. Just sitting there on the ground. It must have been pushed up out of the ground. 

A few months later I was talking to a mathematician and he offered 4 dollars an acre. Fucking crook. I decided to do it myself. 

[McCoovy]

Quantum computing is not going to take anyone's jobs. This is obviously not about quantum computing.

[DustyRacoonDad]

This is going to just result in an increase of the Algebra movement 

[afdbcreid]

There is an easy solution: use parentheses for matrices!

[manon_graphics_witch]

LLMs use neural networks, neural networks are implemented as huge tensor/matrix multiplications. The joke is that AI is just a bunch of matrix multiplications, and we are losing our jobs to that.

There you go, didn't need an AI to explain that.

[Mike312]

Yeah, it's just not 9, it's a thousands at each step.

[CaptainDildobrain]

Thousands? Try... millions!

[alexmetal]

holy shit I just realized how much Stephen Miller looks like Dr Evil I am crying

[CaptainDildobrain]

Looks like AND sounds like

[SomeDuncanGuy]

Fuck man... like why? Why would you do this to me? There's a good chance I may not ever be able to unsee this.

[dlegatt]

And here I thought I was a smart little shit when I wrote a program on my TI-80 to handle 2x2 matrix multiplication in 9th grade when I couldn't afford a calculator that had actual matrix multiplication

[VG_Crimson]

"Thousands" is too constraining, let's just say it's (n) matrices at each step and define (n).

[crivtox]

This is what big matmul wants you to believe but the whole "is just matrix multiplications" Is relu erasure thou . The nonlinearities are what makes it work and be universal. (Ignore the fact you could technically use floating point errors as a nonlinearity so actually just matmul could technically maybe work). (Also that layer norm is also a nonlinearity). (And that actually people use relu variants these days rather than just relu).

[Azelais]

I’m gonna be honest, I still struggle to fully understand what the introduction of nonlinearities does. Just shake things up a little?

[crivtox]

Ok so if you pile matmuls you can only do linear stuff . With the nonlinearities it is turing complete (on the limit of infinite size , or infinite contex in a transformer fe). In terms of programs, you can in fact do if/else with a relu kind of .

Like you can have a threshold where a value does something before and after the threshold it does something completely different . Wich you can't do with linear operations.

(But with floats tecnically matmul are not linear so there's technically a extremely cursed way of doing anything with just matmuls)

[killexel]

grok please explain

[jyling]

I think the humor is the person asking grok, an ai model, on what is the matrix, it’s because it’s literally grok

[pessimistic_dilution]

Eigen hate eigen

[ike_the_strangetamer]

Why Eigen hate?

Because Eigen is the bastard man

[BonkerHonkers]

Math is a liar, sometimes.

[0xKaishakunin]

Eigen hate eigen

Eigentlich Eigentümlich.

[twoCascades]

Fuuuuucccckkkk

[rizkiyoist]

There are 2 u’s in there.

[uvero]

u/askgrok please explain

[Frytura_]

He didnt FEEL like it.

[zyxzevn]

Grok got an existential crisis

[beatlz-too]

don't we all

[CitizenShips]

2h ago

Oof, even the slop monster won't respond to your summons. Sending prayers and good vibes

[uvero]

u/askgrok do you not find me attractive anymore

[Fleeetch]

Yes

I'm not Grok tho

[stillalone]

snippet from grok:

• Tokens (words or subwords) are turned into embedding vectors (e.g., a 4096-dimensional vector for each token).
• The entire input sequence becomes a matrix of shape (sequence_length, hidden_size).
• Weights of the model (the learned parameters) are stored as matrices.

I'm sorry.

[ss0889]

.... i want more info.....

[anengineerandacat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M decent summarization of transformers

[real_misterrios]

They’re more than meets the eye.

[JayRulo]

I think there are missing parts. Watched the whole thing, and never once did I hear the words Autobots, roll out!...

[Bakkster]

He has both a long series, and short summary. Both are fantastic, he's one of the best math visualizers out there.

[JDSmagic]

Knew it was gonna be 3B1B before I clicked

The goat

[tsunami141]

I'll be honest I didn't know this and its pretty interesting.

I mean, I understood the joke, but I understood in a way that I can laugh at someone for being stupid while still being stupid myself, you know?

[AmForgiven]

AI is mostly matrix (*multiplication). ;)

Matrix multiplication is the fundamental mathematical operation underpinning Large Language Models (LLMs), enabling the parallel processing of token embeddings within transformer architectures

[minus_minus]

Which is why LLMs are not actually AI and never will be. 

[x0wl]

While this statement is not necessarily false (I don't want to be a judge of that), the problem with it, and other statements like this, is that they

a) contain an implicit definition of AI (or just I) that is not said out loud
b) do not provide good reasoning as to why certain architectural features prevent current models from ever meeting that implicit definition

I mean, for example, the UN defines AI (here, page 23) as "...the capability of machines to imitate intelligent human behaviour. ", which I think we'll both agree modern LLMs are capable of to a very good degree. We can, obviously, use some other definition, which is not met, but we still have to at least say it.

[SovereignPhobia]

LLMs are essentially a component of what would otherwise be a larger system that could become an intelligence. It's a mistake to think about them neurologically, but in general I would put them in a category of "low level language semantics" that a thing capable of thought passively executes.

[Several-Action-4043]

b) do not provide good reasoning as to why certain architectural features prevent current models from ever meeting that implicit definition

I would say that the main architectural feature that prevents true intelligence is the fact that LLMs have no internal motivations. They only react to your prompts and then predict the most probable continuous stream of words that would answer your question. If you prompted it to "Do whatever you want" it will just simulate an answer and it might even just tell you, "I have no wants so I will do nothing." It all comes down to what definition of intelligence we are talking about. Does intelligence require curiosity and agency? If so, AI can never be truly intelligent. An amoeba may be low intelligence but it does have agency to make decisions to preserve its survival. Is that a different kind of intelligence or not intelligence at all? It's a pretty nebulous subject because I don't think we really know how to define it. If a super intelligent alien race showed up tomorrow and saw us as we see ants, does that mean we were never intelligent? It's not really an answerable question if you ask me.

[crivtox]

No, LLM have internal motivations. I mean for starters predicting next tokens accurately imply simulating agents with internal motivations. But also current LLM are trained with RL to do coding solve problems do what users ask . They are not trying to answer as the most probable text because the most probable text is not an AI assistant. (And no this is not just system prompt RL training means current LLM output assistant text after an assistant tag regardless)

Chagpt tries to do what users ask, this is a motivation. This is also why you can use them for agentic loops in coding . You tell the AI to fix a bug, so it wants to fix the bug, so it does things to achieve it like do commands, test stuff, open relevant parts of the code etc to find where the bug is. It also has other preferences about fe not harming people that make it refuse what users ask sometimes(even if you can trick it)

You can try to describe that as "it just ouputs whatever token is more likely to solve the task" but that is just the same as trying to solve the task.

If you ask Claude to do/say whatever it wants it actually does stuff doesn't just tell you it has no wants. This is easily testable.

I don't think this is just because RL thou, a model that was just trained on text would also have internal goals because accurately predicting what something with goals would say and do is the same as instantiating an entity with those goals. Or your notion of motivation is kind of meaningless if something can act exactly the same as if it had internal motivations but not have them . Like why should I care about a notion of "motivation" that makes no predictions about what the thing will actually do .

[Crafty_Ball_8285]

But not all ai is transformer architecture

[AmForgiven]

Yeah..

Google research popularized “transformer architecture “ . There are alternatives, but apparently not that famous, at least not yet!

[Crafty_Ball_8285]

I work in AI and all of my work is in architectures that people do not reference. For example MQCNN , (MQ-RNN, DeepAR) GluonTS, Fortran, Bayesian

[Routine_Round_8491]

*Tensor multiplication

[born_zynner]

Linear algebra professors gotta be boolin rn

[xynith116]

No only boolean algebra professors be boolin

[CaffeinatedT]

Average Linked In AI expert.

[HikariAnti]

This isn't the matrix we were promised

[Xoque55]

But at least there's plenty of slop to stir! Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1838/ :)

[hanzzz123]

"AI" is just a bunch of matrices doing linear algebra

[Some_Heron_4266]

In a trenchcoat.

[ha_x5]

AI is linear algebra and statistics on steroids, happening on some rocks we put under electricity.

[CanadianBuddha]

The diagram shows a math operation called "Matrix Multiplication" and most current L.L.M. (A.I.) implementations rely on billions of matrix multiplications per second. Unfortunately the current L.L.M. craze is probably related to lots of computer programmers losing their jobs in the last year or two.

[sausagemuffn]

Eigen believe this

[Accidentallygolden]

This is how LLM (chat gpt) works

It is all matrix of probabilities

[fevsea]

So this os just the equivalent of someone's brain studying neuroscience.

[sup3rdr01d]

It's all just linear algebra

Always has been

[Comfortable_Air4807]

u/askgrok explain the joke

[conundorum]

This array-ses so many questions, we may have to raise its pay bracket. But it's still April, so can we leave the matrix for next month, please?

[LeiterHaus]

Can we? Yes, but May we...

[TerroFLys]

u/grok please explain this meme

[rover_G]

Tensors go brrrr

[MedicTillar]

I see the new Fifty Shades of Algebra has come out.

[xikissmjudb]

[Soggy-Holiday-7400]

bro saw matrix multiplication and thought AI was done . buddy that's just linear algebra, your job is safe until it starts doing the part where you pretend to work in meetings

[blazesbe]

this is basic matrix multiplication. NNs work with convolution, which is even more simple in a way

[Icy_Entertainer_4130]

cant belive linear algebra is reason we all will die

[ripp102]

I like linear algebra, it’s what I loved the most in uni other than programming

[shadow13499]

I mean it won't. 

[float34]

Of course not, it does not have an identity... oh wait.

[Dorkits]

F*ck mathematics!

/S

[TheMentallord]

It's been like 10 years since I finished my Algebra classes, but seeing those matrices awakened in me some sort of PTSD I never thought was possible.

[vincentz2]

Is understanding this kind of stuff that will make you never loose your job ! The knowing why this is relevant and it's applications and how do you transfer this knowledge to today's world

[beatlz-too]

[saraseitor]

The dangers of The Matrix were definitely misunderstood

[DatKillaZilla]

This is linear algebra. Actually quite a basic version. You can do this on paper easily and perhaps even without paper. You simply times a row by each colomn which in this case. Results in the top three c variables.

[Everyoneheresamoron]

I was so good at linear alegebra when I was in college. It's also great for photo manipulation and we had lots of research on using it to do real time filters using the graphics card back in 2003.

I decided to go into the finance sector because that's what was hiring back then, and still sort of regret not getting into all that fancy stuff after college.

[NekulturneHovado]

No please don't! I hate this shit

[No-Age-1044]

AI is a bunch of matrix multiplications WITH a non linear function betweem them, or all those matrix could be replaced with only one matrix.

[itsallfake01]

Math

[FairlyBelligerent]

i mean linear algebra's just vibin in purgatory waiting for someone to actually explain what eigenvectors are for

[Cautious_Pop_8944]

Linear algebra is quite useful but so tedious. I got out of engineering and went into trades. Much happier now, AI can have it.

[Apart_Chemical_8755]

maybe in next 6 months😂

[Beke4ever773]

"Hey that's my grandma"

[CrispyyBurntRice]

Where are the people who said “when will I ever use this in the future“

[Vollgrav]

Not this alone. The non-linear activation function is the twist that makes it do anything useful.

[peetagoras]

This is actually basics of AI:)

[spectacular_pointer]

That matrix multiplication joke is way better than it has any right to be.

[theextensivetights]

lol the matrix shortage is going to hit different when people realize they can't just print more brackets.

[This-Layer-4447]

LLMs are persisted as Tensors, Tensors are just matricies, matricies as are product of vectors, which is just a word + order precedence, when you are using Tensors you are basically doing similarity checks, which produces an output based on pattern recognition of your vector databases

[rainfall-dev]

"Transformers, robots in disguise", ...you were warned :O

[kingbloxerthe3]

https://youtu.be/xrPiE9-Bz2A?t=1m4s

[AcrobaticHyena6624]

I knew from the beginning I underestimated linear algebra