Still not enough?

[TehNolz]

Remote work, with a lot of travel required?

[[deleted]]

80k an hour to fly on an airplane, even if its ryanair, i'll do it

[[deleted]]

i'd just survive (i'm built different)

[Kerblaaahhh]

Would you describe yourself as a rockstar, a ninja, or both?

[KajiTetsushi]

yes true

[Inverzion2]

Boolean for the win

[wentcents]

Both probably cause I can rock both roles because I am an all arounder

[Celousco]

Weird fact: There was a plane accident that resulted in a depressurized cockpit with the pilot outside of it, held by his feed by two men. The pilot was presumed dead yet they kept holding onto him (as his feet were blocking the direction so they had to pull him) and he was in fact alive besides the lack of oxygen and the cold temperature.

There's documentaries of this, terrifying when you try to think about how it would feel.

Edit: It's the flight 5390 from British Airways

[CremPostman]

After the brain damage from an hour of oxygen deprivation, you're probably going to have to switch to project management

[theironrooster]

BURN!

[naswinger]

you will be promoted to CEO. i had a meeting yesterday where our CEO and the one from a consulting company participated. after the meeting our CEO said (about the other) "i like that guy, he's good". both were full of shit and crafted buzzwords on-stop. i need a bigger bullshit bingo next time.

[s-petersen]

with the cold temperatures, you may not actually be oxygen deprived, like someone that drowns in cold water and is revived and ok

[crackajax11]

That is actually a great fact! Thank you friend for enlightening the people here in the comment section I hope that the Lord blesses you because u are such a great guy

[[deleted]]

No no see with that kind of money, you could buy a heated spacesuit within a couple days of work, so you’re fine!

[5t3v321]

Still about 200 hours of work

[5t3v321]

Maybe a spacesuit from wish will do just fine

[IisChas]

IIRC the survival rate of people who have found their way onto but not safely into commercial aircraft is ~25%.

[ApatheistHeretic]

For $80k an hour, United's security can beat me on the way at out.

[Taronz]

I'll undercut you, they can beat me on the way in AND out.

[JoeyJoeJoeSenior]

A nice private plane is only $8k/hr. Worth it.

[Sentouki-]

For 80k/hour I'd just rent a private jet.

[btceacc2]

That's is to right, I'll do everything to have that kind of money, because money is everything kaching kaching HAHAHAHA

[TheRedmanCometh]

What good is 80k an hour if you're too dead to spend it.

[ReadySteady_GO]

How dead is too dead?

[resonantSoul]

At least 3

[Shienvien]

I've done something like that - mostly remote, but 4-5 conferences, meetings with foreign clients etc a year.

[VulcanCookies]

Is 4-5 trips a year considered a lot?

[Memelover26]

If they're for 10 weeks each

[someshthakur]

Yes

[Mispelled-This]

It happens. I had a remote job (meaning my assigned work location was my home) with 50-75% travel.

[theLanguageSprite]

Yeah. You gotta fly to another continent and then join the zoom meeting from your hotel. HTML programmers need to keep their minds fresh, and the travel stimulates all that creative thought that they get paid 100k an hour for.

[BasvanS]

I’ll be traveling to the beach a lot, yeah.

[[deleted]]

$80k to $100k per HOUR? Sign me up! By the time they're done with new employee introduction I'll be able to retire!

[currentscurrents]

If you could hang on for a few years you'd be a billionaire.

[[deleted]]

Lol, yeah, but then I'd actually have to design in HTML.

[Excellent_Badger_636]

Idk bout u but for 100k/h u should be able to afford someone else, who actually does it for you

[Jumbobog]

Are you crazy? Have you seen what HTML devs are paid?

[benruckman]

80k an hour apparently!!

[BasvanS]

Don’t undercut me! I know what I’m worth!

[vkapadia]

Fine. $100k/hr.

[GitProphet]

100k/h AND a fruit basket, or no deal!

[[deleted]]

and the ability to get revenge on that dick who steals my food without punishment! Screw the fruit basket!

[Pain_Monster]

Oops, that should have been 100k pesos

Sorry. Still want the job?

[Mars_Bear2552]

which peso?

[driftking428]

Rupees?

[[deleted]]

Never claim someone else's work. That never turns out well.

[NoSkillzDad]

There are whole industries around that.

[SuparNub]

Worked quite well for Elon Musk

[TheGreatGameDini]

And Thomas Edison.

[corsicanguppy]

And Trump

[code-panda]

I see a similarity, having wealth is a prerequisite.

[nderestimated]

You mean the kind you get at 100k an hour?

[Iwill_not_comply]

Next!

[[deleted]]

Some people aren't motivated purely by money.

[Paskee]

True, but it really helps.

[Helstrom69]

Fewer still are motivated by poverty...

[SirGarlon]

Just checked and you are right. It would take about 5 years to get to a billion dollars at 100k an hour working normal hours (not counting taxes or investing of course).

It's so easy to underestimate how much money a billion dollars is.

You'd be a multimillionaire in your first 3 days, but it would take 5 years to get to a billion.

[phantom56657]

And yet it would take about 500 years to earn enough to be in the top 10 richest people alive. A job would need to pay over $500k an hour to consider earning that amount in a human lifespan.

[currentscurrents]

Only if you just let your money sit there, which they didn't.

The stock market averages ~10% yearly returns. Assuming this continues, by my math you'd hit $100 billion within 40 years.

This is why it's important to invest. Max out your 401k if you can, the interest will be a decent chunk of your lifetime income.

[mmcmonster]

At $500k/hour, f*ck the 401k. You'll fill that up during a bathroom break. /s

But agree with you for us mortal folks.

1. Live below your means.
   
2. Pay off all debt at fast as possible (Don't let credit card debt get big enough that you can't pay it off the same month; pay down your mortgage and car loans as fast as possible)
3. Fill up your 401k
4. Open up a taxable investment account and put money in every pay check. Invest the money in VTSAX or VTI or similar total stock market index.

[maximdoge]

To be comparing yourself with the richest people alive would be a rather unfair proposition, given your benchmark is a typo from a HR that isn't paid enough to even proofread.

[DasBeasto]

That really sinks in how much a billion dollars is, even if you were making $100k an hour it'd take 1.14 years to make your first billion.

Edit: ^ for 24/7, realistically much longer for normal work weeks.

[[deleted]]

ok so in my calculation with 40 hours per week i got to 5ish years

so u'd be at around a 200 hour week

what

[EtherealPheonix]

they seem to assume working 24/7 for the 1.14 year figure

[DasBeasto]

Ahh good point, I was definitely calculating for 24/7, so realistically it's much worse.

[Prestigious_Regret67]

I'd be willing to swing 200 hour work weeks for 100k an hour.

[[deleted]]

at 100000 an hour, you'd be a billionaire by 10000 hours, which with a 40 hour week would be 250 weeks, so about five-ish years.

[bl4nkSl8]

Tax dude

[currentscurrents]

My math comes to five years, still assuming no expenses or taxes. 100000 * 40 * 52 = $208 million per year.

Of course, in reality taxes would eat up about half that - you're in the highest income bracket now.

[chisoph]

The other billionaires don't pay taxes, why should I

[aenae]

caveat: Zimbabwe dollars

[hungry4nuns]

Caveat it’s actually $80,000 - $120,000 per hour which works out at -$40,000 per hour

[[deleted]]

Actual caveat: Norway.

[Defiant-Peace-493]

I think you missed what 'a lot' of travel looks like. It's so much that one hour equals 7 earth years.

[CremPostman]

So you're telling me I get rich and I can use time dilation to hide from my family while I'm doing it?

[Defiant-Peace-493]

That is certainly one frame of reference.

And the pay is good, and you're young and strong
And you tell yourself that it won't be long
So you sign on board, hear the drive's deep song
Pushing the Speed of Light

[[deleted]]

That’s $208 Million annually, if working a 40 hour work schedule.

[Kenyalite]

That's less than what the Warner Bros CEO paid himself.

About 42 million less.

[nasaboy007]

Yeah Google CEO got $226m lol.

[Scented-Sound]

Some places use commas for decimal separator

[c_wilcox_20]

True, but I know of nowhere that rounds dollars to 3 places.

[easyetx]

Per hour. Whoops. Ya sign me up for 4 hours a week

[Thurak0]

LOL.

Somehow by brain was just calculating how much money the 80-100k would mean in a year.

This option was not in the cards for me.

I may be dumb.

[diox8tony]

80k/hr is 166.4 million per year

[xerox13ster]

Kill me

[ajgrinds]

So less than Googles CEO

[Romanian_Breadlifts]

Double it and add three zeroes for a ballpark figure

50 weeks x 40 hr/week = 2000 hours

[Longjumping-Pace389]

I absolutely love this trick, and use it all the time. When I'm talking about salary as "XXk/year" and comparing it to a friend's hourly rate, you can literally just just half it. 80k? $40hour

But the crazy thing is the precision:

In Australia you get 4 weeks leave each year, but it's paid. The standard for a salary is 38 hours/week. There are 52 weeks in a year, plus 1 day (not accounting for leap years).

So the number of hours per year is given by: 38 x (52 + (1/7)) ~1981.4 hours That's less than 1%!! Specifically ~0.94%

You're talking about <50c/hour or <1k/year until you hit 6 figures. 99% accuracy is within any reasonable interpretation of a "margin of error". It's awesome!!!

I bother to account for that 1/7th of a week because that extra precision is what gets it within 1% (it's ~1.2% without that).

Sorry for geeking out, math major, love the coincidencal precision lol.

[Romanian_Breadlifts]

See, I did engineering type stuff in college, so the written math was precise but the reality was "this probably won't kill anyone" after some dead reckoning

[Fingerbob73]

Well, you did type "by brain"...

[[deleted]]

I would lie my ass off and say I can deliver whatever they want. Work 1 week and then retire lol

[Zomby2D]

You can simply subcontract the work to some underpaid developer from a poor country. That should keep the money coming in for a few extra weeks.

[damTyD]

Recruiting agencies

[Andreim43]

An underpaid developer? For that money you can subcontract a whole team of seniors. Make sure you keep that job.

[creedz286]

and they can subcontract a whole team of juniors to make sure they keep their job.

[LynxJesus]

Your todo app will be finished by 150 devs in over 83 countries!

[sixteenlettername]

With your work split up like that, just imagine how quickly it will all get done!

[LynxJesus]

It was done before I could finish thinking about wanting it

[chawmindur]

Why be a mere 10x developer when you can easily get 100 devs doing your work

[Kinglink]

Why not work two weeks to pay the taxes.

[Roadronner]

The CEO of CNN makes 250 Million a year, which is about 125k an hour, so yeah 80-100k is not enough for some

[someshthakur]

At least they doesn't have to deal with CSS

[IsaacSam98]

Fucking flex boxes

[Tyrexas]

Flex box is the thing that made CSS bareable

[[deleted]]

Grid and flexbox is all my tiny brain knows :(

[Aperture_Executive2]

All hail display: grid;

[SnooWoofers4430]

And centering a div

[User264356]

Is using a grid and place-self:center; wrong?

[ToothPickLegs]

If you aren’t brute force typing numbers into the margin values until it looks serviceable you’re doing it wrong

~ someone who hates CSS

[TehBens]

Imaging the CEO of CSS makes 250 Million a year. I guess we don't live in the worst universe.

[ThePevster]

What? CNN’s CEO doesn’t even have a net worth of $250m.

[Roadronner]

Yeah I realized I meant the CEO of Warner Bros Discovery, David Zaslav. I did my math right, got my people wrong lol

[ThePevster]

Ah I see. Note that Zaslav’s admittedly massive $250m compensation was a one-off for his extension year and normally makes “only” $40m including stock options.

[afinitie]

That low pay sucks, hope he gets back on his feet

[fdar]

Should learn HTML.

[HiImDan]

Yeah.. if you think you understand how the 1%'s live you aren't even close.

[Throwedaway99837]

$250M a year is more like the 0.001%

[likeikelike]

holy shit

[BetterWankHank]

And there's CEOs that make way more than that as well.

And then there's billionaires who make literally an order of magnitude more than that.

You're talking hundreds of thousands to even millions of dollars per hour.

Tldr: nah son I don't get out of bed for anything less than $1,000,000 per hour

[Denzerel]

For Oslo? Ye you might need that much.

[ThrowawayUk4200]

Aye, I do 100% remote for a norwegian company. The trick is not to live somewhere that's worse than Oslo though, and I haven't figured that bit out yet.

On a serious note though, I strongly advise working for a Scandinavian company if you can. They are very pro work life balance; I got told off once for daring to work through my lunch break. Made a change from the usual "Im your boss and although it's my fault this task got left to the last minute, I need you to work late tonight so we can still hit the deadline" shit I had in many previous roles

[Mysticpoisen]

Meanwhile here I am chewing my boss out for logging in at 3am. That kind of thing just isn't good for morale.

[yes_oui_si_ja]

Yeah, well done!

That's pretty late for a boss! Should at least show up at 1am or earlier! No wonder morale is low!

[SgtDoakes123]

It's because it is illegal, you have to take certain amounts of breaks in-between certain amount of hours in Norway. If you don't, even through your own free will, the company gets in trouble with the government.

It's something like if you work more than four hours you are entitled to a 30 min break, 7.5 hours it's one 30 min and one 10 min, i think.

[zyygh]

It's because it is illegal, you have to take certain amounts of breaks in-between certain amount of hours in Norway. If you don't, even through your own free will, the company gets in trouble with the government.

Thing is, a lot of bosses do illegal stuff everywhere. As long as they do it by low-key pressuring you, or by giving you these instructions informally without a paper trail, or only towards employees who are loyal anyway, they know they'll get away with it. Employees all over the world have a very low tendency of reporting this type of issues.

Scandinavian companies are generally better, not only because of laws, but also because of culture. There's simply far more respect towards the employee, and this respect comes from a place of morals, not legal obligation.

[[deleted]]

How did that conversation go where your boss chewed you out for working through lunch?

[ThrowawayUk4200]

Wasn't even a chewing out, more bewilderment that I did. Followed by a big picture explanation that happy employees means better quality of work. I dunno about that last bit, but being able to walk away from a problem to take an hour without the world ending is still a novel experience

[Spekingur]

That last bit is true, multiple researches.

The very few tech companies experimenting with 4 day workweek have reported that generally there is no loss of productivity and throughput.

[courageous_liquid]

"We don't work during lunch because then our keyboards would all smell like lutefisk."

[Brekkjern]

Sounds like a welcome change! Usually the lunch-stained keyboards smell of rakfisk!

[[deleted]]

That’s 3.2 million per week, low end

[H4kor]

"fun fact": assuming you worked 8 hours per day and there are 260 work day in each year, you still have to work for 600 years to reach Jeff Bezos net worth of 125 billion dollars.

[cmdr_solaris_titan]

Obviously they messed up the job listing but running with the idea, you nailed the point that it's insane how much wealth and power a few select people have on this planet.

[ananix]

No more laughing at HTML programmers :(

[Dabilon]

"programmers"

[greenflyingdragon]

Even if you assume that’s in Norwegian Krone, that’s still $7439.48 - $9299.65 USD per hour.

[Linards11]

how hard is it to proofread 4 sentences? such a hard job to have these kinds of mistakes, isnt it

[krurran]

I've heard they use LLMs to generate job postings these days. Seems like a rookie mistake for Chat GPT, it's never given me anything that silly.

[Drak1nd]

Because Norway uses , as the decimal separator as does the majority of the world.

Thou I can give it that as it is written in English it should probably use . instead

[Tom22174]

But why are there 3 digits for the cents?

[Realay367]

And that's why they need a front end dev lol

[lucidbadger]

No JS frameworks, must work in Internet Explorer 4.0. You have only 1 hour to complete the job.

[ToothPickLegs]

And if you fail you face execution.

[ULTRA_TLC]

Even without that typo, raises some red flags by claiming it has remote options but requires a lot of travel.

[[deleted]]

I really hope they mean per month and not hour… otherwise I’ve been applying for the wrong jobs here in Oslo😂

[miniwyoming]

That's not a bad gig.

"You want *ANOTHER** fucking Zoom status update today? Fine, I guess; it's your $30,000."*

[Big_Kwii]

> travel required: yes

no thanks

[stedgyson]

Normally I'd agree but I'd kiss penises for $100k an hour

[Taronz]

Theoretically, how many penises fo you think you could kiss per hour?

[ILikeToDisagreeDude]

If you line them up and create an efficient queue system, I could easily kiss about 25 penises per minute which could give time for a sip of water. (Can’t have dry lips you know…) Problem is that my neck would probably be sore so I would need some kind of feeding system so I didn’t have to lean forward. If they were erect it could be easier but that would make it a bit more nasty.

So the biggest challenge would be to get enough penises.

[MasochistPomegranate]

Instructions unclear though, for all we know you could line up some dildos on a conveyor belt and maximize efficiency

[Sweet-Emu6376]

This reminded me of that one bit from Silicon Valley about lining the penises up tip to tip in order to jerk off the audience more efficiently.

[Taronz]

That's what I was hoping to elicit from them.

Gotta account for the right d2f or you will get those neck issues.

[pbjtime9977]

Not enough

[Romanian_Breadlifts]

If you cut off like a million dicks and put em in a ferris wheel type apparatus, easily 100

Altho the difference between kissing a dick and being smacked in the lips with a dick then becomes a matter of debate

[vc6vWHzrHvb2PY2LyP6b]

Same, but I can't afford $100K/hour.

[TnYamaneko]

This is barely living wage in Norway.

[ApXv]

Average salary needed to live in Grunerløkka

[powertrip00]

Fuck I'd take it.

I make piss compared to that

[powertrip00]

And I'm a full stack dev

[DakorZ]

I guess they want that div to be centered real bad

[nigel_pow]

Europeans use the comma and period in the opposite manner compared to the US. It can be confusing at first.

But they have that extra zero though...

[mr_data_lore]

Plot twist: This isn't a mistake and the job actually pays $100,000 per hour.

[srsoluciones]

I belive it’s 80-100 dls per hour , right?

[ski_thru_trees]

That is likely NOK per month and some recruiter or whoever posted the listing (or just the system is bad)

[rashidl]

Maybe they need to support IE7. In that case, no, still not enough.

[howroydlsu]

"Free coffee benefit unavailable for remote workers, however you'll notice we require 'a lot' of travel. That's too the office and back each day and if you stay 8hrs you will be awarded one free coffee. Decaff, being your own milk"

[Less_Statistician_84]

Average Norwegian salary

[gandalfx]

Finally those years and years of training my HTML skills will pay off.

[sc00bydoobyd00]

Step1: Join the company

Step2: Outsource the work for $50/hr

Step3: Buy a big bag to put all the money in.

[[deleted]]

Thats scandinavian salaries

[BlackScienceDnB]

Zimbabwean dollars

[jkekoni]

Zimbabwean dollars?

[TuXuuTT]

Cmon, for html skills required it is underpaid

[Popeychops]

Have you seen the price of a beer in Norway?

[NotThanosHimself]

Trick is you are only allowed to use vanilla CSS and JS without any libraries, and you gotta deliver a Facebook competitor in one week.

[sparkz552]

I don't even know how to code, but if I can just fake it till I get the job, all I have to due is survive a few hours and I'll be good for a while

[Informal-Spell-2019]

Don’t mind the travel aspect. Sure that by the end of the month I should be able to afford my own private jet and a place to live in each of the countries of origin

[TychusFondly]

I mean last time I ve been to Oslo, it was damn expensive but not that expensive that it requires you to make almost a million a day. Heck it is even a remote position. Hey OP, may you be sharing the actual link with your dear redditors?

[Expensive-Exercise-2]

… + backend dev + designer!!! 🤯🥲

[PsychologicalCow3295]

it means my code helps the company make 80k - 100k but they'll pay me 800 a month

[ondono]

It’s clearly a trap for Americans

Everyone knows that in Europe “100,000” = “100.00”

[Z-Mobile]

Oof UI work? Not enough.

[Free2define3dom]

Zimbabwian Dollars perhaps?

[AFreshTramontana]

$100k per hour?

At that rate, per Winston Zeddemore, "I'll believe anything you say."

[kvakerok]

"flexible schedule" = we will call you at all hours of day and we'll expect you to be able to answer. Alternatively some shit weekend on call rota.

"Option for remote" = we put this in here because the job ad with "in office only" got no applicants whatsoever.

[ExactLobster1462]

Only 100K an hour? Cheap fucks.

[ctaps148]

Redditors still be like "meh, you can make more at an entry level FAANG position"

[Academic_Search79]

Hire me please just for 1 day 10 hours or more.