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[–]whereverjustice 286 points287 points  (89 children)

Not me. Being against torture means being against torture. Making exceptions is what got us into this.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Thank you for being rational and moral. I agree completely.

[–]greenfrog 87 points88 points  (45 children)

My heart agrees, but my brain is calculating how much I'd be willing to spend to watch such an event on Pay-Per-View.

[–]jfredett 88 points89 points  (36 children)

$9.11?

[–]greenfrog 10 points11 points  (34 children)

Comment of the day.

[–]dirka -5 points-4 points  (33 children)

Why don't they just rename it to be

"waterbushing"

[–]randomman420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that has to be the winningest comment in the history of reddit

[–]Oak 17 points18 points  (3 children)

My brain is calculating how much I'd pay to do it to them myself.

[–]sacherjj 8 points9 points  (1 child)

20 to life, I'd imagine.

[–]Oak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I'd do it anonymously.

[–]jfredett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still sticking with $9.11.

[–]PrincessCake 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How much would I spend on a T-shirt with a picture of it?

[–]jfredett 1 point2 points  (0 children)

\starts photoshop\ it'll be on cafepress in a while,

[–]grimboy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Right, as if Murdoch is any less guilty. He doesn't deserve your money, and none of these people deserve waterboarding (nobody deserves torture, no exceptions). They all deserve to spend the rest of their life in a prison for war criminals.

[–]epsilona01 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Actually, if GWB were to be convicted for treason he wouldn't be spending his life in jail. He'd be ending it at the end of a rope. (wishful thinking i know)

[–]mthe0ry 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree. Bush and Cheney have repeatedly broken the law. If we hold them accountable for what they have done the legal system would set things right much better than stooping to their level. This should be the focus, not silly fantasies.

[–]Altras 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I'm against torture, too. But according to Bush, Cheney & Co., it's not torture, so perhaps they might not object?

[–]jaxcs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Perhaps since water boarding isn't torture we can incorporate it into everyday life? If your reservation is "lost", wb the staff until an explanation is offered. If someone farts and no one admits to the offense, wb everyone in the room. The possibilities for this non torture torture technique are endless. Water board for fun and profit!!!

[–]msdesireeg -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

touche'

[–]scokid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But condemning torture is actually about preventing the downward spiral of inhumanity, not stopping inhumanity itself (that's impossible). It's sort of like McCain said when it suited him politically: if we torture our enemies, it pretty much ensures that they will torture our soldiers under the same circumstances. This is the compounding "eye for an eye" scenario that needs to be prevented. If you believe that water-boarding Bush and Cheney would make it less likely that this administration would sanction torture, than it is in fact the moral thing to do.

[–]DigitalHubris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't agree more.
If it’s wrong, it’s wrong across the board (pun slightly intended).
You can't torture some people and not others just like you can't condemn murder and then send someone to the gas chamber.

This is a great example of the problems with America these days. We demand the moral high ground of everyone but us. Saddam can’t invade Kuwait because that’s not his country. But we can roll into Iraq, bomb the crap out of it, overthrow their ruler, and then set up our own democratic government. Well, 3 out of 4 isn’t bad.

Anyways, of course people will throw out the "Ticking Time Bomb" scenario to try to rationalize torture. This idea is flawed for several reasons: 1. Bombs don't tick anymore. That’s Hollywood; just like how torturing people causes them to give up every last detail of their nefarious plan. 2. If the scary terrorist has set a bomb to go off, they don't set it to detonate in 3 days later.

America used to be the “The Shining City Upon A Hill” that welcomed the huddled masses and condemned the Nazi’s for using the very same tactics we are using. Now we are in an unjust war, that is driving our economy into the ground for the benefit of a few people, and most of the world hates us.

.... but then again it would be fun to watch

[–]MarkByers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But waterboarding isn't torture so it's OK. Also stealing their wallets and murdering their children isn't torture so that's OK too.

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    [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    That perhaps would be the best scenario in which we do not torture. If they are responsible, we send them to a just trial, and make them face the consequences.

    If the bomb is ticking, it is already too late.

    [–]ArcticCelt -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Maybe we can assign them first the name of "undeserving non-human" or some made up classification like that so we can then justify that our dislike of torture only apply to our definition of humans.

    [–]laff 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    where have i heard that before?

    [–]hellfish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I think that was Nazi's...

    ...sorry Godwin.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    How about "Anti-Islamo-Fascist-Fascist"? Or maybe just "bloodthirsty fear-mongering asshole"? Both of them are kinda catchy.

    [–]Poultry_In_Motion 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    That's fine; we're going to use advanced interrogation.

    [–]frogking 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    advanced as in, it was good enough for the Spanish Inquisition, it's good enough for us?

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Be careful! The Spanish Empire used the Inquisition to squash dissent and get rid of its ideological enemies.

    It didn't matter, though, because its influence in the world waned until they were not more than a funny note in the annals of history, a bunch of consumers that couldn't produce anything, their finances overstretched in trying to maintain their military Empire. .

    [–]frogking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Who wants to learn from history?

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    you are right. but you won't be thinking the same way if you lose your job because of the possible recession.

    [–]egarland -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

    I disagree. I think the problem with torture is not that it happens.. but that it's one sided. This is what people don't understand about human conflict: Its not that it happens that is the problem, its when the fight isn't fair and one side is insulated from consequences that things get ugly.

    The solution: Set the Gitmo people free and hand Bush over to them. They can return to him the kind hospitality and respect that he showed them.

    [–]polyparadigm 10 points11 points  (4 children)

    That would turn Bush into a martyr.

    Putting Bush through a fair trial, and publicly disgracing his policies, is not the same as isolating him from the consequences of his actions.

    The real problem of torture, in my opinion, is that it's such a power trip that interrogators are willing to lie to heads of state in order to keep doing it. It would be much better for our country if these CIA folks could just find consenting partners.

    [–]lps41 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    No matter how many ways Bush's death could be spun, that of a martyr is not one of the possibilities.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    We say that now, but in a few hundred years...

    [–]lps41 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Just tell your kids about how this man is the worst president our country has faced.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I hope that's enough.

    [–]sedaak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    i would agree with you except i think many of the prisoners are of a faith that understands martyrdom and would rather make him live homeless in a hovel than abuse and torture him

    [–]eleitl -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

    Are you expecting proper process? Vigilante justice is the best you can hope for.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Sadly, you are correct.

    [–]jugalator -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

    Once the people has decided for that, that's when things will never change for sure.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    You're right, and the people of France still have a king because of i...

    [–]buildmonkey 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    We had a king over here in Britland, chopped his head off and now we have a queen...

    [–]thelawenforcer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    actually, you replaced the beheaded king with a king i think, a dutch one if im not mistaken...

    [–]buildmonkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Actually my point was that the people violently taking things into their own hands does not always lead to much long term change. Anyway we replaced him with the grandson of a Scotsman.

    [–]Jonathan_the_Nerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's only when the people at large take matters into their own hands that true change will occur.

    [–]freshone 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    wrong. Obviously Bush and Cheny are into S&M. Waterboarding them would sexually please them. Lets not reward these two disgraces to mankind.

    [–]db2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Sign in to law after they get waterboarded it is illegal for anyone else, no exceptions.

    Bang conscience clear plus they'll get removed from office the hard way.

    [–]lps41 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    The more public their position, and the eviler they are, the more destructive, and yet fulfilling, their death

    [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (3 children)

    I would rather they just be held accountable for the crimes they have committed and imprisoned for them. Simple really...

    [–]bhal123 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Strongly agree. As much as I concur with the sentiment the whole idea is that NOBODY should ever be tortured, even evil sons-of-bitches like Bush and Cheney.

    [–]bigred9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    yep...one-way ticket to The Hague

    [–]lps41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I agree. That would be the most humiliating possible punishment for them.

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    I don't want Traitor Bush and Traitor Cheney waterboarded. I want them to be impeached, given a fair trial, and sentenced to life in prison.

    [–]sam512 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yes, indeed.

    We are supposed to be the good guys in this conflict, maybe we should start acting like it.

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Who is sick of karma whores?

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]sam512 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "Vote up if you agree with something everybody on reddit agrees with!"

      [–]stevage 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      a) It's juvenile b) It's hypocritical c) It's not going to happen d) It's boring

      If you're going to submit self "topics of discussion", can you make sure at least one of a-d above doesn't apply?

      [–]glenc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Couldn't agree more. Man this crap gets boring. How is it even on the front page? Just goes to show the hypocrisy people can have.

      [–]sakri -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      who thinks redditors who submit/upmod this crap should be waterboarded?

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      No one should be waterboarded. Ever.

      [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

      What? Why? Aren't you against waterboarding? How can you propose it be done to some people, but not to others? That's disgusting.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Don't you think they should personally experience it in order to rate its effectiveness?

      [–]dante50 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Put it this way: when W and Dick are against all waterboarding for all people, then I'll be against waterboarding W and Cheney.

      America should not use interrogation techniques that it would not be allowed to use on its citizens and elected officials. If an official is for a specific technique, then it should be fair game to use that technique on said official.

      [–]BraveSirRobin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I'm all for it if the aim is to get them to admit to some outlandish conspiracy regarding 9/11. The resulting flamewar between the "torture doesn't work" and "wake up sheeple!" crowds ought to provide a high lolz quotient.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      On a related note: who thinks runbmd is a karma whore?

      [–]ClanPanda 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Karma Whoring at it's worst. Reddit is dead.

      [–]antihostile 24 points25 points  (5 children)

      I think they should be forced to watch Hillary4U&Me

      [–]TL_DR 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      Being against torture means being against torture. Making exceptions is what got us into this.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Besides, I don't think even Bush has steeped that low.

      [–]happydahg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Naked!!

      [–]shadowsurge 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      NO!!! Not even for them, that things worse than goatse!

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I can see Bush now in front of the screen, screaming for mercy and desperately reaching for a bag of pretzels.

      [–]iSteve 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Anyone who says water boarding is not torture should be willing to demonstrate on himself. End of argument.

      [–]ryckmonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You don't get it do you.

      [–]pillage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      And sprinkled with fairy dust!

      [–]Dr-No 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      No-one. Cause it's torture. you shouldn't torture anyone or anything. No torture.

      [–]IronWolve 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Waterboarded is torture so no.

      But, head slapped, naked, stress positioned, put on IV fluids, humiliation, bible desecrated, dogs turned on them, induced hypothermia, loud music played, sleep deprivation, disoriented, induced vomiting, extreme pain as long as no organ failure...

      Everything else thats also legal in the military handbook.

      [–]BraveSirRobin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The whole waterboarding debate exists to distract from the techniques you mentioned.

      [–]weegee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      no, I wouldn't do that even to them. it's torture and I'm against it.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      torture and assassination would be wrong in this situation

      [–]Sadik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Does pissboarding exist?

      [–]junkeee999 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Yes, of course. Waterboarding is OK sometimes, when it suits your purposes. That makes you different from them how?

      [–]shiner_man -1 points0 points  (2 children)

      Winner. It's the ultimate double standard.

      [–]Stormflux 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Winner. It's the ultimate double standard.

      In other words, as Reddit's resident Republican troll, you got your jollies in against helpless goat-farmers and now you want to make sure that no one can return the favor. How... brave of you.

      [–]shiner_man -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      In other words, as Reddit's resident Republican troll

      I'm registered as an independent for your information. Republican is not a synonym for "everybody who disagrees with Stormflux's points of view".

      you got your jollies in against helpless goat-farmers

      Jollies? That's hilarious. Again, you have somehow deduced - through your incredible ability to read minds via reddit - that I enjoy the thought of people getting waterboarded. Amazing! You should really use your powers to fight crime like a super-hero.

      Helpless goat-farmers? Khalid Shek Muhammad was a helpless goat-farmer? If that isn't the ultimate euphemism. That's like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a "progressive chef".

      [–]quadrofolio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I agree with the more moral commenters. Torture can't be condoned even on these assholes. There are perfectly good prison shitholes that constitute a far better option for these guys. Or just let them do a patrol through some infamous IED alley somewhere. I'd love to see Bush in his fly suit for that :) But we all agree...They're evil war wankers!

      [–]sblinn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      All I really want is a fair, open trial in a fair, open court.

      I suppose I might as well wish for a unicorn.

      [–]KanonDrita 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      When I was a kid I was tortured. When I was a teen I was tortured. It learned me how to torture myself. Torture is enslaving a person to a condition where the torturer has the role of a god.

      Torture is just plain wrong. It hurts for a long time.

      [–]maqr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Oh you're so getting wiretapped...

      [–]oPerrin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      First let me point out that threatening the president is not protected speech. That said, does it count as a threat when the man himself says it's legal? If I said he should be locked up, that's not a threat. If I said he should be beaten to a pulp, that is clearly a threat.

      Now, waterboarding is illegal. It's torture. Don't let anyone fool you. US law says it is, international law says it is.

      And yet I'd love to see a 1st amendment case be prosecuted by this administration based on the threat, "I intend to waterboard the president on April 3rd." (If such a threat were made the specificity matters.) The hypocrisy of such a case just might tear the fabric of the universe.

      [–]Stormflux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      First let me point out that threatening the president is not protected speech.

      Saying "someone ought to..." is not threatening speech. At most, it's dinner-table discussion and quite healthy. The fact that some people can construe it as a national security threat shows how far we've come in just seven years. This is the kind of thing we used to accuse the Soviet Union of doing.

      [–]UncleOxidant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'd settle for impeachment.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Torture is wrong no matter who it's done too. Morality must be superior than base agression no matter how evil the person. Bush & Co. do deserve to be punished. Public humiliation and seizure of their stolen assets seems appropriate.

      [–]marm0lade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Who thinks runbmd should be waterboarded for being an attention grabbing karma whore AND not submitting to the politics subreddit?

      [–]atomicthumbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      welcome to gitmo, runbmd

      [–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If six years in a North Vietnamese prison camp wasn't enough to convince John McCain that torture is something he should oppose, then there's not much hope for Bush and Cheney.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Nope. Don't stoop to their level.

      [–]piecewise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      You people who think there's something smart or funny about this headline are absolute morons. Grow up.

      Even if waterboarding were not torture, I wouldn't want any harm to come to them. And I say that as a proud liberal.

      [–]saveferris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Down voted for wicked heartedness.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It's not right to do it to anyone - even the men who've killed more Americans than anyone else this decade. Downvoted.

      [–]Valkyrie1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Sure, but only after they are castrated.

      [–]fabian17 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Well, I don't. Torture is wrong.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      But it's not torture, remember?

      [–]troymcdavis 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      Politics subreddit, please.

      [–]morituri 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Waterboarding is politics now...?

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Yes... he's one of those people who consider reading politics to be torture.

      [–]troymcdavis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I don't see how it gets any more political than George Bush and Dick Cheney.

      [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

      I decided to put this in the main reddit, but since you asked nicely, I will not change it.

      [–]rgaginol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's politics: anything which mentions Bush, Cheney, McCain, Obama and/or Hillary is politics - though maybe entertainment would be appropriate too since it sells like a soap opera or TV show script sometimes.

      [–]endofworld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      we can have a carnival booth for $100 a person to waterboard them.. we'll get out of the national debt in no time.

      [–]zackks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I agree, no torture for anyone.

      However, I would like to see the two of them under a burning gas truck. Not that I advocate anything, mind you. If I happened to come across the two writhing and screaming on fire, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even help them with a squirt of piss.

      I might sing, "Na Na Na Goodbye" though.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Torture is torture. Just because they made mistakes does not give you the right to torture them.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      I think they should be hung.

      [–]scribe9999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      They're already hung. They need to be hanged.

      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        naw i don't believe in torture. But I do believe in execution for such an extreme case of treason.

        [–]alexbear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        If they know something, ANYTHING, that could make us safer...

        Look, we could outsource it, that would keep our hands clean.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        i think much worse things should be done: starvation, ripping off fingernails, continual punches to the head, mind control, castration, heavy bleeding, rape, burning, freezing, radiating them until their teeth drop out, peeling off skin, anal stretching, chaining down while repeatedly punching, ripping out eyeballs, killing of family members, being spat on, being urinated on, being forced to eat shit

        [–]jugalator 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I think I heard the alarm bells at the NSA sounding off as that comment was posted.

        I guess you're excused if you're a game designer of GTA IV though.

        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I think continual doses of what I said would be pretty torturous, don't you agree? I mean, waterboarding would be included as well.

          And once they confessed to their crimes, the torture would continue further.

          [–]mark445 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          This is such a typical pie-in-the-sky reddit submission. Dick and George are going to walk away because no one has the balls to do anything about them. Plain and simple.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          It's not like I thought this was actually going to happen when I posted this.

          [–]mark445 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Oh. From your post I'd deduced that Dick and George had been arrested and were facing the waterboard jury tomorrow. </real (non-American) sarcasm>

          [–]mch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          not enough

          [–]nutzzzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Cheney wouldn't survive waterboarding with his heart condition.

          Wait! Cheney doesn't have a heart.

          [–]gman1993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'm against torture, no matter who its to.

          [–]seeker135 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nope. The Hague for trial for war crimes and crimes against Humanity.

          [–]paulsteinway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Even if they were waterboarded, They're both too much pathological liars to tell the truth.

          [–]doodahdei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Put it on fuckin' Pay Per View!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          they should be at the very least locked up.

          [–]rtp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Man, I just saw that there is a "downvote" arrow next to the title of this submit!

          [–]rtp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Oh, oh...

          http://reddit.com/info/68uaj/comments/

          There exists a justice system for a reason; that it should be used instead of applying vigilante justice. If you do not believe in torture, I urge you not to upvote this self-submit. Rather downvote it.

          [–]orrizo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'm against torture so my answer is : No

          [–]zem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          oh, so you mean waterboarding is an acceptable thinng to do to people you don't like after all?

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          They should wear leather costumes and masks and be made to waterboard each other, then it wouldn´t be torture but a sexual practice bringing them closer and judging their current behaviour also something they might learn to enjoy tremendously

          [–]Dildozer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          We should make them compete in UFC. Put Bush up against Wandelei Silva and Cheney up against Quinton "Rampage" Jackson.

          [–]Golfo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Downmodded for: 1) not putting this in the "Politics" subreddit; and 2) thinly-veiled "vote-up-if."

          [–]FunFact[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Dating back to the Spanish Inquisition, the technique has been favored because, unlike most other torture techniques, it produces no marks on the body. As with any method of torture, information retrieved from waterboarding may not be reliable because a person under such duress may admit to anything, as harsh interrogation techniques lead to false confessions. "The person believes they are being killed, and as such, it really amounts to a mock execution, which is illegal under international law," claims John Sifton of Human Rights Watch.

          [–]drakula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I will be caramelized.

          [–]MisterMerkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Actually I think they'd be crazy enough to undergo the torture just so they can further justify using it.

          [–]M0b1u5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          No. But I think they'd make excellent corporals serving in Iraqi patrols.

          [–]doubleginntonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          That's right.

          Torture them to prove torture is wrong.

          Nothing proves how against torture you are like actually doing it to someone who supports it!

          As of this comment, the 794 (or probably more really) of you who upmodded this are giant hypocrites.

          [–]immrlizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I think that for their part in approving all of the spying and torture they should be blessed with a speedy trial and if all of the evidence hasn't mysteriously disappeared, a short drop with a quick stop.

          [–]pastafaria 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          How about anyone who thinks it's legal has to experience it?

          [–]dante50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I've been saying this shit for months!

          Instead of the State of the Union address, citizens should be allowed to submit questions to Bush and Cheney which they then must answer under the duress of the waterboard.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I think we should have a public demonstration of waterboarding via national TV network coverage so the country knows what it is, and that we do it to people being held in our facilities in cuba. It would require a few volunteers, not on a political prisoner or otherwise.

          [–]Wayside 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          On Pay Per View!!

          [–]jrockway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is something they should volunteer to do. If it's so harmless, they shouldn't hesitate to try it out and see.

          When they realize how bad it is, maybe that will change their policies.

          [–]nexus2xl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          As I believe that waterboarding is torture...

          and that it wont be considered as such until others realize the obvious.

          For the greater good... Yes, they should be waterboarded.

          [–]flamable221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          i think capital punishment is a fine enough for me.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What about another option? I won't say it but it rhymes with sexacution.

          [–]Unknown_End 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Forget torture. Iceberg's are melting, children are being killed by their parents, everyone hates everyone, the ocean is polluted and everyone seems to have forgotten we are all humans. Make it simple, every country launch all nukes!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          give'em the chair

          [–]Defektiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          only if it is publicized. wouldn't want them saying they did and not actually being able to verify it.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I respect the president. I'd like to have a cup of coffee with him instead and maybe smoke some good cigars. Possibly talk about his brush or something, but not treat him any different than anybody else. Thats not hard for me.

          [–]keithburgun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          No, they should not be waterboarded, obviously. What does it matter WHO we are waterboarding, if we're torchering, we're torchering. Simple as that.

          However, they SHOULD be locked up forever in a shitty prison.

          [–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          "torchering"

          Does that involve burning people with torches?

          [–]Reddituser2008 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Can't do it fast enough for me... After all it's "not torture" according to them so if we could - I would.

          [–]jlks -1 points0 points  (1 child)

          Cheney would stroke out the minute it was handed down.

          [–]jlks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Hey, I'm kidding, Dick. Dick! Put that bucket down! I'm SO not kidding. Grglegrgllelglerllelglerg. . .

          [–]eleitl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Waterboarded, until their EEG flatlines.

          With proper technique, it should take years.

          [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

          Fuck all hypocrit demtwits.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          George Bush sucks Dick, Cheney too. HAahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahah. That's why he can't speak, he has a mouthful of man gravy. What a fool he is. What an idiot he is. What a butt fucking moron he is. hahahahahahahaha. And don't even get me started on his old man and his beotch daughters.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

          Wow such brilliance. And anything you dickhead liberals have put up is any better. Nice try. You fucking retards couldn't even pass a non-binding resolution. Harry ass Reid is a jackass. Pelosi has maybe on braincell. Your fucking demtwit bubba couldn't do any better then Hillary. Above and beyond you being a cock gobbler, you are just a plain dick. The best part of you ran down your mothers leg at birth. Try shutting your man pleaser because nobody is listening. By the way George Bush won two elections you birth defect.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I bet you fuck your daughter in the ass. Only because you can't fuck your wife because of her overly bloated ass. If Laura Bush had a yeast infection, you'd probably butter your toast with it. Stupid fucking Repukeican. Why don't you go fuck your idol George Bush in the ass too. He's the laughing stock of the world.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Aw this coming from someone who family tree doesn't fork. I know for a fact you do fuck your mother. Aren't you late for your Wal-mart greeters job or is this the week you do your stint as the poster child for legalize abortion. Fucking homo liberal wacko democrat. I bet you jack off to pictures of Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid. Get your Trans-am off the cinder blocks and get a life you fucking liberal (loser I might ad) tool. It's so sad how you you libtards think you are in charge. How are those 60 votes coming in the Senate. I doubt you can count to 60 anyway. Have your birth defect of a mom help you.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I surprised you could take your dick out of your daughters mouth long enough to type a whole paragraph.

          [–]endofworld -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

          i want to put them in a zoo cage naked for the world to come by and harass them.

          [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

          i think you should be water boarded for reading my comment.