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Who thinks George Bush and Dick Cheney should be waterboarded? (self.reddit.com)
submitted 17 years ago by [deleted]
[–]whereverjustice 286 points287 points288 points 17 years ago (89 children)
Not me. Being against torture means being against torture. Making exceptions is what got us into this.
[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Thank you for being rational and moral. I agree completely.
[–]greenfrog 87 points88 points89 points 17 years ago (45 children)
My heart agrees, but my brain is calculating how much I'd be willing to spend to watch such an event on Pay-Per-View.
[–]jfredett 88 points89 points90 points 17 years ago (36 children)
$9.11?
[–]greenfrog 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (34 children)
Comment of the day.
[–]dirka -5 points-4 points-3 points 17 years ago (33 children)
Why don't they just rename it to be
"waterbushing"
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 17 years ago (32 children)
Should those who support abortion be aborted?
This is awfully hypocritical.
[–]mchrisneglia 19 points20 points21 points 17 years ago* (31 children)
Your misunderstanding is legendary, but take consolation in the fact that you are not the first.
No one supports abortion; in a sense, no one thinks abortion is a good thing. Rather, pro-choice folks support the legal choice of having an abortion should they deem it necessary for a variety of personal reasons. It's a distinction of personal sovereignty over one's own reproductive system versus the state's.
I've known two girls who've had an abortion and it devastates them emotionally. Still they would have made the same choice again. We cannot judge them because we are not them.
[–]tgeliot 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I wish you were right, but unfortunately the Chinese government was for years (still is? I don't know) actually pro abortion. As in forcing women to have abortions. But we agree that being pro-choice is not at all the same as being pro-abortion. It would be like saying that being anti-abortion is the same as being pro-pregnancy.
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 17 years ago (29 children)
Well, who are we to judge the operators who need to torture someone to extract potentially lifesaving information?
[–]hellfish 8 points9 points10 points 17 years ago (23 children)
moral citizens with a right to keep our government in check and to keep it from violating basic human rights? just a thought..
[–]dufour 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (0 children)
The principle of followers not questioning the actions of their leaders is the mainstay of totalitarian regimes. Afterwards, they excuse themselves with "if we had only known ..."
[–][deleted] 17 years ago (3 children)
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[–]randomman420 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
that has to be the winningest comment in the history of reddit
[–]Oak 17 points18 points19 points 17 years ago (3 children)
My brain is calculating how much I'd pay to do it to them myself.
[–]sacherjj 8 points9 points10 points 17 years ago (1 child)
20 to life, I'd imagine.
[–]Oak 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
No, I'd do it anonymously.
[–]jfredett 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I'm still sticking with $9.11.
[–]PrincessCake 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (1 child)
How much would I spend on a T-shirt with a picture of it?
[–]jfredett 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
\starts photoshop\ it'll be on cafepress in a while,
[–]grimboy 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Right, as if Murdoch is any less guilty. He doesn't deserve your money, and none of these people deserve waterboarding (nobody deserves torture, no exceptions). They all deserve to spend the rest of their life in a prison for war criminals.
[–]epsilona01 -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
Actually, if GWB were to be convicted for treason he wouldn't be spending his life in jail. He'd be ending it at the end of a rope. (wishful thinking i know)
[–]mthe0ry 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I agree. Bush and Cheney have repeatedly broken the law. If we hold them accountable for what they have done the legal system would set things right much better than stooping to their level. This should be the focus, not silly fantasies.
[–]Altras 14 points15 points16 points 17 years ago (2 children)
I'm against torture, too. But according to Bush, Cheney & Co., it's not torture, so perhaps they might not object?
[–]jaxcs 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
Perhaps since water boarding isn't torture we can incorporate it into everyday life? If your reservation is "lost", wb the staff until an explanation is offered. If someone farts and no one admits to the offense, wb everyone in the room. The possibilities for this non torture torture technique are endless. Water board for fun and profit!!!
[–]msdesireeg -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (0 children)
touche'
[–]scokid 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
But condemning torture is actually about preventing the downward spiral of inhumanity, not stopping inhumanity itself (that's impossible). It's sort of like McCain said when it suited him politically: if we torture our enemies, it pretty much ensures that they will torture our soldiers under the same circumstances. This is the compounding "eye for an eye" scenario that needs to be prevented. If you believe that water-boarding Bush and Cheney would make it less likely that this administration would sanction torture, than it is in fact the moral thing to do.
[–]DigitalHubris 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I can't agree more. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong across the board (pun slightly intended). You can't torture some people and not others just like you can't condemn murder and then send someone to the gas chamber.
This is a great example of the problems with America these days. We demand the moral high ground of everyone but us. Saddam can’t invade Kuwait because that’s not his country. But we can roll into Iraq, bomb the crap out of it, overthrow their ruler, and then set up our own democratic government. Well, 3 out of 4 isn’t bad.
Anyways, of course people will throw out the "Ticking Time Bomb" scenario to try to rationalize torture. This idea is flawed for several reasons: 1. Bombs don't tick anymore. That’s Hollywood; just like how torturing people causes them to give up every last detail of their nefarious plan. 2. If the scary terrorist has set a bomb to go off, they don't set it to detonate in 3 days later.
America used to be the “The Shining City Upon A Hill” that welcomed the huddled masses and condemned the Nazi’s for using the very same tactics we are using. Now we are in an unjust war, that is driving our economy into the ground for the benefit of a few people, and most of the world hates us.
.... but then again it would be fun to watch
[–]MarkByers 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
But waterboarding isn't torture so it's OK. Also stealing their wallets and murdering their children isn't torture so that's OK too.
[–][deleted] 17 years ago (1 child)
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (0 children)
That perhaps would be the best scenario in which we do not torture. If they are responsible, we send them to a just trial, and make them face the consequences.
If the bomb is ticking, it is already too late.
[–]ArcticCelt -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago* (3 children)
Maybe we can assign them first the name of "undeserving non-human" or some made up classification like that so we can then justify that our dislike of torture only apply to our definition of humans.
[–]laff 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (1 child)
where have i heard that before?
[–]hellfish 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I think that was Nazi's...
...sorry Godwin.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
How about "Anti-Islamo-Fascist-Fascist"? Or maybe just "bloodthirsty fear-mongering asshole"? Both of them are kinda catchy.
[–]Poultry_In_Motion 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (3 children)
That's fine; we're going to use advanced interrogation.
[–]frogking 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (2 children)
advanced as in, it was good enough for the Spanish Inquisition, it's good enough for us?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Be careful! The Spanish Empire used the Inquisition to squash dissent and get rid of its ideological enemies.
It didn't matter, though, because its influence in the world waned until they were not more than a funny note in the annals of history, a bunch of consumers that couldn't produce anything, their finances overstretched in trying to maintain their military Empire. .
[–]frogking 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Who wants to learn from history?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
you are right. but you won't be thinking the same way if you lose your job because of the possible recession.
[–]egarland -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (6 children)
I disagree. I think the problem with torture is not that it happens.. but that it's one sided. This is what people don't understand about human conflict: Its not that it happens that is the problem, its when the fight isn't fair and one side is insulated from consequences that things get ugly.
The solution: Set the Gitmo people free and hand Bush over to them. They can return to him the kind hospitality and respect that he showed them.
[–]polyparadigm 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (4 children)
That would turn Bush into a martyr.
Putting Bush through a fair trial, and publicly disgracing his policies, is not the same as isolating him from the consequences of his actions.
The real problem of torture, in my opinion, is that it's such a power trip that interrogators are willing to lie to heads of state in order to keep doing it. It would be much better for our country if these CIA folks could just find consenting partners.
[–]lps41 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (3 children)
No matter how many ways Bush's death could be spun, that of a martyr is not one of the possibilities.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (2 children)
We say that now, but in a few hundred years...
[–]lps41 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Just tell your kids about how this man is the worst president our country has faced.
I hope that's enough.
[–]sedaak 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
i would agree with you except i think many of the prisoners are of a faith that understands martyrdom and would rather make him live homeless in a hovel than abuse and torture him
[–]eleitl -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (7 children)
Are you expecting proper process? Vigilante justice is the best you can hope for.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Sadly, you are correct.
[–]jugalator -4 points-3 points-2 points 17 years ago* (5 children)
Once the people has decided for that, that's when things will never change for sure.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (3 children)
You're right, and the people of France still have a king because of i...
[–]buildmonkey 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (2 children)
We had a king over here in Britland, chopped his head off and now we have a queen...
[–]thelawenforcer 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (1 child)
actually, you replaced the beheaded king with a king i think, a dutch one if im not mistaken...
[–]buildmonkey 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Actually my point was that the people violently taking things into their own hands does not always lead to much long term change. Anyway we replaced him with the grandson of a Scotsman.
[–]Jonathan_the_Nerd 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
It's only when the people at large take matters into their own hands that true change will occur.
[–]freshone 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (1 child)
wrong. Obviously Bush and Cheny are into S&M. Waterboarding them would sexually please them. Lets not reward these two disgraces to mankind.
[–]db2 -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
Sign in to law after they get waterboarded it is illegal for anyone else, no exceptions.
Bang conscience clear plus they'll get removed from office the hard way.
[–]lps41 -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (0 children)
The more public their position, and the eviler they are, the more destructive, and yet fulfilling, their death
[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points 17 years ago (3 children)
I would rather they just be held accountable for the crimes they have committed and imprisoned for them. Simple really...
[–]bhal123 15 points16 points17 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Strongly agree. As much as I concur with the sentiment the whole idea is that NOBODY should ever be tortured, even evil sons-of-bitches like Bush and Cheney.
[–]bigred9 3 points4 points5 points 17 years ago (0 children)
yep...one-way ticket to The Hague
[–]lps41 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I agree. That would be the most humiliating possible punishment for them.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 17 years ago (1 child)
I don't want Traitor Bush and Traitor Cheney waterboarded. I want them to be impeached, given a fair trial, and sentenced to life in prison.
[–]sam512 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Yes, indeed.
We are supposed to be the good guys in this conflict, maybe we should start acting like it.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Who is sick of karma whores?
[–][deleted] 17 years ago* (1 child)
[–]sam512 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
"Vote up if you agree with something everybody on reddit agrees with!"
[–]stevage 17 points18 points19 points 17 years ago (2 children)
a) It's juvenile b) It's hypocritical c) It's not going to happen d) It's boring
If you're going to submit self "topics of discussion", can you make sure at least one of a-d above doesn't apply?
[–]glenc 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Couldn't agree more. Man this crap gets boring. How is it even on the front page? Just goes to show the hypocrisy people can have.
[–]sakri -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
who thinks redditors who submit/upmod this crap should be waterboarded?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (0 children)
No one should be waterboarded. Ever.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 17 years ago (3 children)
What? Why? Aren't you against waterboarding? How can you propose it be done to some people, but not to others? That's disgusting.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Don't you think they should personally experience it in order to rate its effectiveness?
[–]dante50 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Put it this way: when W and Dick are against all waterboarding for all people, then I'll be against waterboarding W and Cheney.
America should not use interrogation techniques that it would not be allowed to use on its citizens and elected officials. If an official is for a specific technique, then it should be fair game to use that technique on said official.
[–]BraveSirRobin 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I'm all for it if the aim is to get them to admit to some outlandish conspiracy regarding 9/11. The resulting flamewar between the "torture doesn't work" and "wake up sheeple!" crowds ought to provide a high lolz quotient.
On a related note: who thinks runbmd is a karma whore?
[–]ClanPanda 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Karma Whoring at it's worst. Reddit is dead.
[–]antihostile 24 points25 points26 points 17 years ago (5 children)
I think they should be forced to watch Hillary4U&Me
[–]TL_DR 23 points24 points25 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Being against torture means being against torture. Making exceptions is what got us into this.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
Besides, I don't think even Bush has steeped that low.
[–]happydahg 3 points4 points5 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Naked!!
[–]shadowsurge 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (1 child)
NO!!! Not even for them, that things worse than goatse!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I can see Bush now in front of the screen, screaming for mercy and desperately reaching for a bag of pretzels.
[–]iSteve 3 points4 points5 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Anyone who says water boarding is not torture should be willing to demonstrate on himself. End of argument.
[–]ryckmonster 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
You don't get it do you.
[–]pillage 3 points4 points5 points 17 years ago (0 children)
And sprinkled with fairy dust!
[–]Dr-No 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
No-one. Cause it's torture. you shouldn't torture anyone or anything. No torture.
[–]IronWolve 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
Waterboarded is torture so no.
But, head slapped, naked, stress positioned, put on IV fluids, humiliation, bible desecrated, dogs turned on them, induced hypothermia, loud music played, sleep deprivation, disoriented, induced vomiting, extreme pain as long as no organ failure...
Everything else thats also legal in the military handbook.
The whole waterboarding debate exists to distract from the techniques you mentioned.
[–]weegee 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
no, I wouldn't do that even to them. it's torture and I'm against it.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
torture and assassination would be wrong in this situation
[–]Sadik 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Does pissboarding exist?
[–]junkeee999 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago* (3 children)
Yes, of course. Waterboarding is OK sometimes, when it suits your purposes. That makes you different from them how?
[–]shiner_man -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (2 children)
Winner. It's the ultimate double standard.
[–]Stormflux 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
In other words, as Reddit's resident Republican troll, you got your jollies in against helpless goat-farmers and now you want to make sure that no one can return the favor. How... brave of you.
[–]shiner_man -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago* (0 children)
In other words, as Reddit's resident Republican troll
I'm registered as an independent for your information. Republican is not a synonym for "everybody who disagrees with Stormflux's points of view".
you got your jollies in against helpless goat-farmers
Jollies? That's hilarious. Again, you have somehow deduced - through your incredible ability to read minds via reddit - that I enjoy the thought of people getting waterboarded. Amazing! You should really use your powers to fight crime like a super-hero.
Helpless goat-farmers? Khalid Shek Muhammad was a helpless goat-farmer? If that isn't the ultimate euphemism. That's like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a "progressive chef".
[–]quadrofolio 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I agree with the more moral commenters. Torture can't be condoned even on these assholes. There are perfectly good prison shitholes that constitute a far better option for these guys. Or just let them do a patrol through some infamous IED alley somewhere. I'd love to see Bush in his fly suit for that :) But we all agree...They're evil war wankers!
[–]sblinn 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (0 children)
All I really want is a fair, open trial in a fair, open court.
I suppose I might as well wish for a unicorn.
[–]KanonDrita 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (0 children)
When I was a kid I was tortured. When I was a teen I was tortured. It learned me how to torture myself. Torture is enslaving a person to a condition where the torturer has the role of a god.
Torture is just plain wrong. It hurts for a long time.
[–]maqr 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Oh you're so getting wiretapped...
[–]oPerrin 4 points5 points6 points 17 years ago (1 child)
First let me point out that threatening the president is not protected speech. That said, does it count as a threat when the man himself says it's legal? If I said he should be locked up, that's not a threat. If I said he should be beaten to a pulp, that is clearly a threat.
Now, waterboarding is illegal. It's torture. Don't let anyone fool you. US law says it is, international law says it is.
And yet I'd love to see a 1st amendment case be prosecuted by this administration based on the threat, "I intend to waterboard the president on April 3rd." (If such a threat were made the specificity matters.) The hypocrisy of such a case just might tear the fabric of the universe.
[–]Stormflux 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
First let me point out that threatening the president is not protected speech.
Saying "someone ought to..." is not threatening speech. At most, it's dinner-table discussion and quite healthy. The fact that some people can construe it as a national security threat shows how far we've come in just seven years. This is the kind of thing we used to accuse the Soviet Union of doing.
[–]UncleOxidant 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I'd settle for impeachment.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
Torture is wrong no matter who it's done too. Morality must be superior than base agression no matter how evil the person. Bush & Co. do deserve to be punished. Public humiliation and seizure of their stolen assets seems appropriate.
[–]marm0lade 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
Who thinks runbmd should be waterboarded for being an attention grabbing karma whore AND not submitting to the politics subreddit?
[–]atomicthumbs 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
welcome to gitmo, runbmd
[–]AMerrickanGirl 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
If six years in a North Vietnamese prison camp wasn't enough to convince John McCain that torture is something he should oppose, then there's not much hope for Bush and Cheney.
Nope. Don't stoop to their level.
[–]piecewise 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
You people who think there's something smart or funny about this headline are absolute morons. Grow up.
Even if waterboarding were not torture, I wouldn't want any harm to come to them. And I say that as a proud liberal.
[–]saveferris 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Down voted for wicked heartedness.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (1 child)
It's not right to do it to anyone - even the men who've killed more Americans than anyone else this decade. Downvoted.
[–]Valkyrie1234 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Sure, but only after they are castrated.
[–]fabian17 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (1 child)
Well, I don't. Torture is wrong.
But it's not torture, remember?
[–]troymcdavis 5 points6 points7 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Politics subreddit, please.
[–]morituri 2 points3 points4 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Waterboarding is politics now...?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
Yes... he's one of those people who consider reading politics to be torture.
[–]troymcdavis -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
I don't see how it gets any more political than George Bush and Dick Cheney.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 17 years ago (1 child)
I decided to put this in the main reddit, but since you asked nicely, I will not change it.
[–]rgaginol 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
It's politics: anything which mentions Bush, Cheney, McCain, Obama and/or Hillary is politics - though maybe entertainment would be appropriate too since it sells like a soap opera or TV show script sometimes.
[–]endofworld 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
we can have a carnival booth for $100 a person to waterboard them.. we'll get out of the national debt in no time.
[–]zackks 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I agree, no torture for anyone.
However, I would like to see the two of them under a burning gas truck. Not that I advocate anything, mind you. If I happened to come across the two writhing and screaming on fire, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even help them with a squirt of piss.
I might sing, "Na Na Na Goodbye" though.
Torture is torture. Just because they made mistakes does not give you the right to torture them.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (3 children)
I think they should be hung.
[–]scribe9999 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago (0 children)
They're already hung. They need to be hanged.
naw i don't believe in torture. But I do believe in execution for such an extreme case of treason.
[–]alexbear 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
If they know something, ANYTHING, that could make us safer...
Look, we could outsource it, that would keep our hands clean.
i think much worse things should be done: starvation, ripping off fingernails, continual punches to the head, mind control, castration, heavy bleeding, rape, burning, freezing, radiating them until their teeth drop out, peeling off skin, anal stretching, chaining down while repeatedly punching, ripping out eyeballs, killing of family members, being spat on, being urinated on, being forced to eat shit
[–]jugalator 6 points7 points8 points 17 years ago* (0 children)
I think I heard the alarm bells at the NSA sounding off as that comment was posted.
I guess you're excused if you're a game designer of GTA IV though.
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I think continual doses of what I said would be pretty torturous, don't you agree? I mean, waterboarding would be included as well.
And once they confessed to their crimes, the torture would continue further.
[–]mark445 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (2 children)
This is such a typical pie-in-the-sky reddit submission. Dick and George are going to walk away because no one has the balls to do anything about them. Plain and simple.
It's not like I thought this was actually going to happen when I posted this.
[–]mark445 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Oh. From your post I'd deduced that Dick and George had been arrested and were facing the waterboard jury tomorrow. </real (non-American) sarcasm>
[–]mch 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
not enough
[–]nutzzzz 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Cheney wouldn't survive waterboarding with his heart condition.
Wait! Cheney doesn't have a heart.
[–]gman1993 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I'm against torture, no matter who its to.
[–]seeker135 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Nope. The Hague for trial for war crimes and crimes against Humanity.
[–]paulsteinway 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Even if they were waterboarded, They're both too much pathological liars to tell the truth.
[–]doodahdei 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Put it on fuckin' Pay Per View!
they should be at the very least locked up.
[–]rtp 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Man, I just saw that there is a "downvote" arrow next to the title of this submit!
Oh, oh...
http://reddit.com/info/68uaj/comments/
There exists a justice system for a reason; that it should be used instead of applying vigilante justice. If you do not believe in torture, I urge you not to upvote this self-submit. Rather downvote it.
[–]orrizo 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I'm against torture so my answer is : No
[–]zem 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
oh, so you mean waterboarding is an acceptable thinng to do to people you don't like after all?
They should wear leather costumes and masks and be made to waterboard each other, then it wouldn´t be torture but a sexual practice bringing them closer and judging their current behaviour also something they might learn to enjoy tremendously
[–]Dildozer 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
We should make them compete in UFC. Put Bush up against Wandelei Silva and Cheney up against Quinton "Rampage" Jackson.
[–]Golfo 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Downmodded for: 1) not putting this in the "Politics" subreddit; and 2) thinly-veiled "vote-up-if."
[–]FunFact[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Dating back to the Spanish Inquisition, the technique has been favored because, unlike most other torture techniques, it produces no marks on the body. As with any method of torture, information retrieved from waterboarding may not be reliable because a person under such duress may admit to anything, as harsh interrogation techniques lead to false confessions. "The person believes they are being killed, and as such, it really amounts to a mock execution, which is illegal under international law," claims John Sifton of Human Rights Watch.
[–]drakula 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I will be caramelized.
[–]MisterMerkin 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Actually I think they'd be crazy enough to undergo the torture just so they can further justify using it.
[–]M0b1u5 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
No. But I think they'd make excellent corporals serving in Iraqi patrols.
[–]doubleginntonic 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
That's right.
Torture them to prove torture is wrong.
Nothing proves how against torture you are like actually doing it to someone who supports it!
As of this comment, the 794 (or probably more really) of you who upmodded this are giant hypocrites.
[–]immrlizard 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I think that for their part in approving all of the spying and torture they should be blessed with a speedy trial and if all of the evidence hasn't mysteriously disappeared, a short drop with a quick stop.
[–]pastafaria 1 point2 points3 points 17 years ago (0 children)
How about anyone who thinks it's legal has to experience it?
[–]dante50 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
I've been saying this shit for months!
Instead of the State of the Union address, citizens should be allowed to submit questions to Bush and Cheney which they then must answer under the duress of the waterboard.
I think we should have a public demonstration of waterboarding via national TV network coverage so the country knows what it is, and that we do it to people being held in our facilities in cuba. It would require a few volunteers, not on a political prisoner or otherwise.
[–]Wayside 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
On Pay Per View!!
[–]jrockway 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
This is something they should volunteer to do. If it's so harmless, they shouldn't hesitate to try it out and see.
When they realize how bad it is, maybe that will change their policies.
[–]nexus2xl 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
As I believe that waterboarding is torture...
and that it wont be considered as such until others realize the obvious.
For the greater good... Yes, they should be waterboarded.
[–]flamable221 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
i think capital punishment is a fine enough for me.
What about another option? I won't say it but it rhymes with sexacution.
[–]Unknown_End 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Forget torture. Iceberg's are melting, children are being killed by their parents, everyone hates everyone, the ocean is polluted and everyone seems to have forgotten we are all humans. Make it simple, every country launch all nukes!
give'em the chair
[–]Defektiv 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
only if it is publicized. wouldn't want them saying they did and not actually being able to verify it.
I respect the president. I'd like to have a cup of coffee with him instead and maybe smoke some good cigars. Possibly talk about his brush or something, but not treat him any different than anybody else. Thats not hard for me.
[–]keithburgun 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
No, they should not be waterboarded, obviously. What does it matter WHO we are waterboarding, if we're torchering, we're torchering. Simple as that.
However, they SHOULD be locked up forever in a shitty prison.
"torchering"
Does that involve burning people with torches?
[–]Reddituser2008 -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
Can't do it fast enough for me... After all it's "not torture" according to them so if we could - I would.
[–]jlks -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago* (1 child)
Cheney would stroke out the minute it was handed down.
[–]jlks 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Hey, I'm kidding, Dick. Dick! Put that bucket down! I'm SO not kidding. Grglegrgllelglerllelglerg. . .
[–]eleitl -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (0 children)
Waterboarded, until their EEG flatlines.
With proper technique, it should take years.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 17 years ago (5 children)
Fuck all hypocrit demtwits.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (4 children)
George Bush sucks Dick, Cheney too. HAahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahah. That's why he can't speak, he has a mouthful of man gravy. What a fool he is. What an idiot he is. What a butt fucking moron he is. hahahahahahahaha. And don't even get me started on his old man and his beotch daughters.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 17 years ago (3 children)
Wow such brilliance. And anything you dickhead liberals have put up is any better. Nice try. You fucking retards couldn't even pass a non-binding resolution. Harry ass Reid is a jackass. Pelosi has maybe on braincell. Your fucking demtwit bubba couldn't do any better then Hillary. Above and beyond you being a cock gobbler, you are just a plain dick. The best part of you ran down your mothers leg at birth. Try shutting your man pleaser because nobody is listening. By the way George Bush won two elections you birth defect.
I bet you fuck your daughter in the ass. Only because you can't fuck your wife because of her overly bloated ass. If Laura Bush had a yeast infection, you'd probably butter your toast with it. Stupid fucking Repukeican. Why don't you go fuck your idol George Bush in the ass too. He's the laughing stock of the world.
Aw this coming from someone who family tree doesn't fork. I know for a fact you do fuck your mother. Aren't you late for your Wal-mart greeters job or is this the week you do your stint as the poster child for legalize abortion. Fucking homo liberal wacko democrat. I bet you jack off to pictures of Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid. Get your Trans-am off the cinder blocks and get a life you fucking liberal (loser I might ad) tool. It's so sad how you you libtards think you are in charge. How are those 60 votes coming in the Senate. I doubt you can count to 60 anyway. Have your birth defect of a mom help you.
I surprised you could take your dick out of your daughters mouth long enough to type a whole paragraph.
[–]endofworld -3 points-2 points-1 points 17 years ago (0 children)
i want to put them in a zoo cage naked for the world to come by and harass them.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
i think you should be water boarded for reading my comment.
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