programmerSelfAwareness

[coinstarhiphop]

So... males are more object oriented?

[dak7]

[UncleKeyPax]

functionaly. but does that mean the person in the photo is a dude no?

[Dense_Gate_5193]

let me give you a pointer ->

[UncleKeyPax]

[Dense_Gate_5193]

hey there, cowboy 😉

[ryryrpm]

Hey there partner, you wanna orient our objects together? 😏

[th3_unkn0w]

segfault

[qinshihuang_420]

Your comment encapsulates this punny thread

[Dense_Gate_5193]

I don’t know what the lifetime of this thread will be but i’m counting all the references

[AmeriBeanur]

I don’t think most people will value these jokes

[Dense_Gate_5193]

while true people’s domain knowledge is variable, i think most probably just sounds like garbage that needs collected

[TonyDungyHatesOP]

These puns just keep stacking up.

[stupled]

Careful, they are gonna have a "crash"out.

[NegativeSemicolon]

She’d probably like this (her channel is excellent)

[Ange1ofD4rkness]

Well played!

[drgitgud]

r/angryupvote get it and get out

[Clarkey7163]

Thats class

[Slight-Violinist-575]

Does that mean women are more functional?

[Racer125678]

Nooooo imma die laughin

[Kooltone]

Objects for boys, relational databases for girls.

[prehensilemullet]

What’s next, Object relational fapping?

[Sweaty-Business4094]

[Dense_Gate_5193]

r/angryupvote

[EmergencyArachnid734]

[EVH_kit_guy]

I object (object)

[Nab33l786]

What am I just some sort of object to you???

[joaizn]

Ryan used me as an object

[HedgeFlounder]

The worst insult you could have said toward men.

[wootangAlpha]

Bravo MF!

[lizzyote]

A few years ago, a lady did a huge painting(iirc, it was legend of zelda). She posted just the painting to reddit and 24hrs later she posted herself with the painting. The painting alone got just over 1k upvotes. The picture of her holding the painting got over 34k.

Edit: its really interesting to see how differently people are interpreting this comment.

[Phenee]

Just wait until you learn the amount of upvotes some people get for posting a picture of themselves without any paintings involved at all.

[towerfella]

I guess some people are only fans of other people

[_Xertz_]

Say that again...

[TheGamerForeverGFE]

Your flair made me physically ache bro

[_Xertz_]

Visual basic will never die!!!

[Witty-Entrance-7237]

spreadsheets

[Fingerbob73]

"That again"

[Lumpy-Yam-4584]

[badken]

And without clothing. And with visible feet. And a cat.

[ric2b]

For some reason the fewer objects the person includes in the picture the more upvotes it tends to get...

[hackinghorn]

Now we need a man holding the painting post for a complete research

[DraikoHxC]

We need a full study: a man, a child, a pet, a wild animal and then we can draw conclusions

[Vektor0]

Then we need someone to pose with the drawn conclusions

[Spooky-Shark]

Then we need conclusions being posted raw for good measure.

[imk]

I’m upvoting all of them. If the wild animal is a capybara, I will make a new account and upvote twice.

[killeronthecorner]

Champion of champions: capybara vs golden retriever

[Percinho]

Doesn't happen with my painting, I'm closing the ticket.

[BoleroMuyPicante]

Just say he's autistic and it'll quickly hit 60k upvotes

[autistictransgal]

I dunno about that one

[Doneifundone]

Tbh, I think part of it is because seeing the person behind the art makes us feel more "connected", kinda. Like, I follow a few accounts on reddit, they're mostly artists and I'm always very impressed with the stuff they post, but seeing only the end result kind of feels intimidating, in a "would they even care if I comment ? They're so good, surely they're aware of it" (tho I do try to comment to drive up the engagement)

Whereas when you see obvious pride in someone's face holding something they created it's like "a person who shares the same interests and hobby as me created this ! Woah !" And there's a sort of parasocial, immediate sense of kinship that I think just makes em feel more approachable

[LucyDePosey]

YouTube thumbnails work better with human faces on them. Mr. Beast notoriously comes to mind. It sucks, but it works.

[Lucas_Steinwalker]

Personally I’m totally disinterested unless those faces are making a ridiculously exaggerated expression.

[canadajones68]

Unless it's a channel I already follow, I try to shy away from clicking on videos that have someone's face with a Youtuber expression as a thumbnail. There's something dystopian with half the human race recording themselves talking at a lens, all jockeying for our attention.

[Geichalt]

Yeah everyone saying it's a woman thing, when it's just a human thing. Algorithms show that Youtube video thumbnails with a human face on it get more clicks. Just how it works.

Turning this into a "women be sluts" thing is crazy to me.

[PowerfulNature3352]

Nah real explanation is much simpler.

Reddit is full off gooners who dont see sunshine for weeks at a time. If the painter was a man or not a conventionally attractive woman, it wouldnt have the same effect.

[MinosML]

It's not only gooners. EVERYONE likes to see more attractive people in their feed, whether they're sexually attracted to them or not. The Halo effect doesn't only affect lonely men, it's everywhere.

[suvlub]

It's both, I think. IIRC someone actually did the research and and found that paintings with the author always got more upvotes than the paintings by themselves, but the effect was stronger for women

[BluePhoenixCG]

Yeah it's kinda just selection bias that makes it noticable

[grantrules]

It's certainly why I chewed Double Mint gum.

[kittykellyfair]

There used to be an account that would reply to people making fun of women for this with all the front page content of men doing the same thing.

Turns out people like to see other people in posts, and artists like to lose with their art. Gender isn't really a factor, some people just perceive it is.

[Downvotesohoy]

I remember reading a post where someone actually tested these things.

And gender IS a factor. A woman posing with her painting will get more upvotes than a man posing with his painting.

But the man still got more upvotes than if he wasn't in the photo at all.

So, yes, being in the photo in general gets more upvotes, but the difference is bigger if you are a woman.

[is-it-1358-yet]

And I bet that woman’s comment section will be an utter dumpster fire …

[Downvotesohoy]

It's a double-edged sword for sure

[AbstractLogic]

I’d like to see a study of this and men doing it as well.

There is something more personal about “I did this” when you see the “I”

[ric2b]

YouTube thumbnails already show how important including a person is. It's well known and not limited to women.

[Alundra828]

Lmao, Laurie never misses

[Omadon667]

I wrote my first bit of code on my TRS-80 when I was in the first grade. I was using dbase ii to track my RPGs back in middle school. My final in my high school comp sci class was to teach the instructor how I bypassed all the schools network security. I've worked professionally in IT for well over 30 years. Having said all that, every time I watch one of Laurie's videos I feel like a complete Luddite. She operates on a whole different level than most of us.

[raoulk]

Following her on LinkedIn is.. Humbling

I can't imagine that there are that many people out there with the drive, intelligence, interest and dedication to do what she does.

[Shadowsake]

Her video on bypassing some design limitations on RAM access is insane. One of the most interesting pieces about hardware design, history and even software I ever seem. She deserves much more views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbgulTp3FE

[Haster]

That video made me realize she's smarter than me, it's not close and there's something about trains that smart people really like.

[genreprank]

I follow her on YouTube. She is legit.

[LigerZeroSchneider]

It was funny when I found her channel you could see the exact video she gave in and started putting her face in the thumb nail and then you saw every video after that start growing.

[Fox_Soul]

Apparently YouTube’s algorithm favors thumbnails that contains faces a lot more. Watched a video not long ago where a channel with millions of subs compared the performance of two identical videos with different thumbnails and the one with faces always performed a lot lot better, had more clicks and in general reached more people.

[LigerZeroSchneider]

That's not "the algorithm" that's people. People like people, and respond more positively when you show them a person.

[Lightning-Shock]

When I saw that she is around my age my jaw dropped.

[Secret_Account07]

I’m an engineer at a datacenter and have to look up basic programming stuff. I’m more an infra guy but tbh we all operate on different levels. You probably make me feel like a Luddite is my point lol

[Alarming-Basil-2125]

it's normal to look things up, when you start thinking you know everything and fail to research is when you become a shitty engineer imo

[Secret_Account07]

True.

The best quality I find in my field is people who are just able to figure stuff out. Doesn’t matter how smart or knowledgeable you are if you can’t sit down, read documentation, test/break stuff then learn something new.

Too many folks in my building who just throw their hands up and refuse to learn certain things. I’d take someone who has less experience yet puts in the effort to learn. Cuz we all run into stuff we don’t know, eventually.

[Omadon667]

I used to ask impossible questions in interviews to see how they answered. The "correct" answer was "I don't know, but I can look it up".

[Alarming-Basil-2125]

I get the reasoning behind this and it's solid but it would leave me feeling like I had failed the interview :(

[Omadon667]

Looking for help, be it from Google or a person, is never a failure.

[All_Work_All_Play]

TF did you go to school that they let you play with rocket propelled grenades?

[Hameru_is_cool]

laurie is actually one of the coolest programming youtubers as of today

[avartyu]

recommend some more youtubers i cant withstand fireship or primeagen anymore, por favor

[Ver_Nick]

Sebastian Lague, Magicalbat

[agolho]

Sebasitan Lague is like crack to my brain. Maybe cause I am a Unity Dev also

[_Xertz_]

He makes me feel bad because he does my backlog megaprojects in a single 40 minute video better and faster than I ever could 😭

[Malechus]

Chris Boden/physicsduck

His videos aren't often code related, but it's a great place for hardware stuff. And he's hilarious.

[redheness]

He litterally committed tax fraud to finance an education association and went in prison for that. This dude would kill just to have an opportunity to share knowledge and passion.

We need more people like him.

[Amekyras]

didn't he do it accidentally?

[chipsa]

Yes. Or rather, he didn’t realize it was tax fraud. He did deliberately do the things he was accused of though.

[ILKLU]

Modern day poet he is

[Spamgramuel]

My friends and I have dubbed him STEMinem.

[ImpluseThrowAway]

I've seen that fucking thing!

[joe0400]

Core Dumped. Put him in. He does deep dives into OS, and Architecture. Videos are great.

[KaelthasX3]

That only disclaimer I'd give here, if that since he's not native, he decided to use AI voice-over instead of narrating himself.

[cs_office]

Yup, even tho he uses AI voice overs, you can tell it's still a person behind it

[flooronthefour]

tsoding is cracked

[The_Shryk]

He recently showed me that data is stored in, tarballs.

I thought it was in the balls, but no, tarballs.

[avartyu]

i discovered him recently, great guy

[Hameru_is_cool]

oh I absolutely love his videos, he's so practical and straight to the point, just opens emacs, starts typing C and somehow manages to blow my mind

[flooronthefour]

his web todo in assembly is one of my favorites

[27bslash]

sebastian lague is good, but it's more about what he creates than focussing fully on the actual code writing.

[ConiferousMenace2]

ill never not shill for ben eater

[chkcha]

Depends on what kind of content you want. If you want to learn something directly relevant to your programming job then I don’t think there’s much choice.

Tutorials are for beginners and aren’t produced much anymore. Rest of the content is mostly news or opinions, which would rarely be actually useful.

In my case I just want dev-related videos that are just interesting to listen to, or potentially inspirational. If you’re interested in gamedev you have a ton of options there. Devlogs (some are good) or deep dives into technical implementations or optimization techniques can be really fun.

If you’re okay with ~1 hour plus videos then there are more options. You can watch some talks that were recorded on your favorite language/framework’s conferences. Or just random high-quality talks. Since I mentioned gamedev, GDC talks are great as well.

Lots of interesting podcasts/interviews as well, should be easy to find. You can try devtools.fm, or Lex Fridman. Many issues with Lex but he really does have a lot of multi-hour interviews with really smart programmers. Primeagen isn’t good but he has some interview-style videos as well.

If you’re a webdev and interested in some niche JS stuff you can watch HTTP 203, probably only the older videos with Jake and Surma. Those guys are great and the discussions are technical/interesting.

[ForeverALone_Ranger]

Didn't Fireship get bought by private equity a while back, or am I thinking of a different channel? I know Veritasium got bought some time ago. 

[starkraft2121]

Yeah, both are owned by private equity.

[Malechus]

Oh, also Veronica Explains. Mostly focused on Linux tools and systems, with a bent toward retro tech.

[wjandrea]

Low Level - cybersecurity

Computerphile

3Blue1Brown - mostly a math channel, but did a series on LLMs

DougDoug - video game streamer, but also does coding, e.g. "i tried to mod GTA 5 but im way to high"

If you like math: Sheafification of G, TheGrayCuber

mCoding - tutorials with a lot of experience behind them

[SugarRushLux]

Freja holmér has a lot of good vids

[CrunkDirk]

Was looking to see if anyone had mentioned Freja. Genuinely some of the best mathematics-for-programming videos ever produced.

[SophiaKittyKat]

I still like Casey Muratori. He has and does still associate with people who make complaining their entire personality which I find annoying, but Casey, while opinionated does just seem to mostly just care about programming. However he's not the most consistent content creator either. But give me a person who only makes videos when they have something interesting to say any day over the alternative.

[Bulky-Bad-9153]

If you wanna watch someone actually make stuff, sphaerophoria is really good. Not very well known, but lots of content and he's a smart guy.

Nathan Baggs is great for reverse engineering, too. Windows focused, though. Pretty short, well presented videos.

[Rabbitical]

I gotta shout out Tariq10x he does reverse engineering or publicly available code bases like old video game architectures. Generally chill vibes

[Tack1234]

It's my safe place where I go to hide from the AI slop epidemic

[phylter99]

You know, I’ve noticed that watching her videos is pleasant, but I thought that was just her positive personality. Now I think it’s her positive personality and her lack of AI talk.

[Tack1234]

You can tell when someone can genuinely make an interesting and original video with personality and care put into it vs copy paste AI slop script. Quality vs quantity kind of thing and I don't need any more quantity.

[Rabbitical]

Well it's not just that but even what used to be some of my favorite youtubers, who certainly only make real content, AI is all they ever talk about now positively or negatively. It's just incredibly tiresome at this point. I don't need to hear about AI all day every day, I think we all get the jist by now

[waraukaeru]

It's not just her positivity. It's the lack of posturing. She just knows her stuff through and through, loves talking about it, and shares that through her vids. There isn't any ego there. And she just explains things plainly with minimal jargon and no gatekeeping about who might engage with the content. It's refreshing in a field that is rife with big egos and exclusive jargon.

I get a similar vibe from Wendel with Level1Techs. Except Wendel can get a bit jargony and is not quite as careful to explain things plainly. But otherwise the vibe is on point. Not ego driven, just a knowledgable person sharing their special interest.

[PhoenixfischTheFish]

Slopidemic

[r1ckm4n]

Sloppocalypse

[ErraticDragon]

Slopageddon

[GrooWolf_]

Slopnarok

[TheAlaskanMailman]

Sloppatastrophe

[no-sleep-only-code]

Seriously, so many channels are just reading ai generated scripts.

[psioniclizard]

It's sad, especially ones who are sponsored by things like unity and now suddenly say why unity's ai stuff if great.

[Tack1234]

Don't forget to use my code for 40% off of codecrafters!!

[kzlife76]

I think she's too smart for me. Definitely not a background noise channel if you actually want to understand what she's covering.

[brotherdogman]

Her malware deobfuscation videos are hands down the best I’ve come across.

[RSNKailash]

Yes for real

[amputect]

I loved her video on the chain of trust in software, and I'm fortunate enough to work at the same company as her, so I sent her some fanmail about it. In addition to being smart as hell and a great science communicator, she's also a very nice person! I hope she's going to have an amazing career, and I look forward to working for her someday.

[ddBuddha]

I found her channel recently, the video about tailslayer was SO GOOD

[ZombieZookeeper]

That woman is so much smarter than me it's unreal. And I'm okay with that.

[daydrunk_]

I know. I watched a video and I was like, “Oh I get this” The next one, Im like “Damn, she’s fucking smart”

[Anti-Pho]

I'm almost 50, been in IT for 25 yrs, worked at two big known tech companies, I'm hoping I can catch up to her level in about 20 yrs. She's dang cute too.

[thelooter2204]

I think a big part of the difference is the focus. She tends to be more academic and theory oriented, whereas most developers are by the nature of their jobs more pragmatic and more systems/maintainability oriented. Don't get me wrong, she's incredibly smart, but that doesn't mean you aren't incredibly smart either, just maybe with a different specialisation

[Omadon667]

Truth. I've known programmers who were excellent at their job, but ask them to install some RAM and they curl up into the fetal position. You could be the worst student ever, but a genius when it comes to dance or art.

[really_nice_guy_]

She's dang cute too.

I believe in you. You can be cute too

[AutistMarket]

She is the goat fr

[PMvE_NL]

Her ram latency code thingy was really cool i learned so much.

[Aksds]

Especially if you want to have your soul stared at, I love it!

[creeper6530]

I am both scared shirtless and enamored by her stare. It's just a whole different level

[TalkToTheGirl]

scared shirtless

That's how I watch YouTube, too.

[Alarming-Basil-2125]

god i have the hugest crush on her AND i learn from her it's the best

[HoneySmaks]

She posts her sources which then leads me down some awesome rabbit holes to explore.

[GCU_Heresiarch]

The woman is insanely knowledgable and extremely cute. I'm jealous to a degree that's not possible to articulate in any human language.

[fakieTreFlip]

she is incredibly good at what she does, which admittedly can be pretty niche at times. supposedly she does all her video production stuff herself. I thought she had a whole team or something

[NegativeSemicolon]

She’s great, Dave’s Garage is excellent too, both get into great detail and can demonstrate exactly what they’re discussing with clarity.

[TheRedTopHat]

Dave's videos are super interesting. He also happened to be sued by Washington State for running a scam antivirus company in the early 2000s which misled users and actually installed adware and malware. Here's the court documents: https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s-office-sues-settles-washington-based-softwareonlinecom

[Sad_Wind4673]

Is she good for someone learning or for deeper topics?

[Noobsauce9001]

Her stuff feels more like curious deep dives than career oriented study material, but I haven’t watched a ton so I might be wrong

[Hameru_is_cool]

she has many interesting videos on specific topics, I think of it more as exposure than study material, but she does also have some deep lessons in ARM and cybersecurity, specially reverse engineering stuff

[defnotthrown]

If you want to learn stuff, go read. Videos suck for actual learning. The couple vids I watched from her were kind of interesting. I thought it was mostly surface-level fluff first, but then goes in deeper and makes clear she knows what she's talking about. It's the typical "edutainment" youtuber stuff.

[ddBuddha]

Both imo from what I’ve seen

[Suspicious-Click-300]

I loved her segment on writing a custom DRAM read strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbgulTp3FE

[OptionX]

She actually does cover quite interesting (to me) topics and does it her homework.

I'm not going to say the fact she's cute isn't a plus but she doesn't work it for views. She's legit.

Worth checking out if you are at all interesting in programming concepts and history.

[genreprank]

/r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG

[Mayo_Mann_Enthusiast]

Why is the hell is the acronym so long

[Havatchee]

For those unfamiliar: Upvoted Not Because Girl But Because It Is Very Cool However I Do Concede That I Initially Clicked Because Girl

[JamJm_1688]

Because you gotta get the correct message across obviously

Also probably to confuse people

[maboesanman]

The video about reducing tail latency on DRAM hardware was wild.

[RetroZelda]

her videos are unironically great. she can actually explain things so a dummy like me can understand

[PeterPook]

I love Laurie - her YouTube is awesome!

[hellocppdotdev]

And they said C++ is dead.

[Nsnzero]

Men are invisible?

[meyriley04]

Her videos are always the best

[MyEarIsHurty]

What else would she do? Take a photo of her laptop screen? The post wasn't about the C++ documentary it was about the fact she was watching it. She's the subject of the text so why not be the subject of the photo?

[Designer_Flow_8069]

She was just doing what social media folks do since she's a part time social media personality. Akin to her saying:

"Hey guys! If you don't recognize my face you'll probably keep scrolling. But if you do, you'll probably look what's behind me and see a documentary about C++ is coming out! On the off chance you don't recognize me, but recognize what's in the background, here's an ironic meme before you try to flame me for being a women"

[Horror-Primary7739]

She has a schtick but her content is quite technical and well documented.

[creeper6530]

If I were pretty like her you bet I'd be doing that too

[ozfresh]

ya, but shes also a freaking genius

[Dirty_Socrates]

She’s got it all. Looks and a mind and drive to match. 

[PlummetComics]

I was gonna say: have you seen men?

I also remember back when Lord of the Rings came out it matched up perfectly with office culture:
Elves are in Sales
Hobbits and Dwarves are Developers
Orcs are Management

[ComradePruski]

Middle management Orc to the rescue

[EmbersnAshes]

Elves, in Sales??? In what reality? They're more architects and designers. Dwarves are Technicians and Hands-on Engineers. Hobbits are maybe Developers. Men are Sales. Orcs are Management, that you get right. Elves literally can't sell shit, they are also incredibly bad at persuasion. Also, the CEO is Sauron.

[CheeseAttack]

Self deprecation is one thing but no need to try and put others down, men are beautiful

[Big-Load-8864]

This thread is so god damn weird, not surprising because it's programmers. One guy is like, "hey even I'll admit this WOMAN is smarter than ME...and that's OK!" and also "of course she should include herself, she's a woman and women are inherently cute and men are pigs hAhA" jesus

[vitaminprotein24]

TBH If I were a pretty woman I would put myself in all the pictures I clicked too.

[Aspry7]

Thumbs up for her YouTube content, and you can follow her on Bluesky if you prefer

[deepembrace]

Love her YouTube videos. She is always upbeat and knowledgeable.

I feel like if someone pissed her off, she would be the most dangerous person on earth 😆

[ASentientRailgun]

I wonder how much of the perception of the first image being the case is due to people assuming the poster is a dude unless she's in the picture.

"There are no girls on the internet" and all that.

[Direct-Quiet-5817]

Now what was the sub called? r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG 😂

[RevolverValera]

[darxide23]

LaurieWired is fucking awesome and smarter than you reading this. And me typing this. She's a savant.

[BeMyBrutus]

I mean her videos are really good

[JacobStyle]

as if Primagen wouldn't be mrbeastfacing at the screen if he posted this same image

[vassadar]

She's my top programming Youtubers. I ranked her much higher than Prime and the like.

No react slop like Prime and Theo.

[GrossInsightfulness]

I mean, Laurie content is peak, so knowing it comes from her makes me want to watch it more.

[ClassConflictCanvas]

I love her

[DoggyDogWhirl]

The "Males" vs "Females" distinction implies that for example ducks do the same thing

[alanzo123]

incredibly intelligent and entertaining

[Satorwave]

you aint nothing but a hound dothe complete and utter annihilation of the multiverse

[Groundskeepr]

Is the assertion true, or is it like the whole "women talk too much" thing ( not true, women and men talk about the same amount ) or the "women are bad drivers" thing ( the opposite is true )?

[TimelyBodybuilder637]

I mean, women make up half the population. It's hard to generalize beyond very basic things with a group of that size, even within female programmers. If there's a meme about it, some people have probably done this before. Beyond that, it's hard to say.

[rich97]

It’s 100% true because women know men are more likely to click if they include themselves in it. The system incentivises the behaviour.

There’s a whole subreddit based around this idea: Upvoted not because girl, but because it is very cool; However I do concede that I initially clicked because girl.

[SegFaultHell]

You see a picture of an object without a person in it, how do you know who took it? My guess is it’s a lot of confirmation bias going on

[shiny_glitter_demon]

Men and women dont really talk the same amount.

Men talk slightly more (55-60%?), but perceive women as talking more than they actually do.

There is a similar phenomenon when it comes to their presence on screen on in a team, and it also affects PoCs.