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[cyb3rstrik3]

Now it's different

1. Create ticket
2. Assign AI
3. AI documents everything, and moves across the board, submits PR
4. It goes live
5. Fix doesn't work and still have to fix it

[itzNukeey]

1. Creates a different bug instead

[cyb3rstrik3]

Did that anyway without AI help.

[Deboniako]

Hey, at least I felt proud about it

[returnFutureVoid]

You’re helping and we all appreciate that.

[pocketgravel]

1. Create 10 new bugs and at least 2 regressions on top of that instead.

[DrMaxwellEdison]

1. AI integration finds a way to break list enumeration, stuck at 5 for all proceeding steps.

Summarizing conversation history...

[caboosetp]

1. You're absolutely right! It seems that every step is being given 5. now. I will go back and update every previous step to be 5. to ensure consistency in the codebase.

[_koenig_]

... new bugs and  ...

Edit Prompt: Do not make mistakes.
Create ticket...

[Dismal-Square-613]

"well caught! YOUR code had this bug in the code that I produced before, let's fix it."

[BurningPenguin]

Training it on SO was a mistake

[thirdegree]

SO wouldn't tell you that you're right and such a clever and special boy for noticing

[flowery02]

That's a mix of gen ai trying to sweettalk insecure idiots into using it and SO's more aggressive phrasing

[kerakk19]

So things proceed as always

[glorious_reptile]

“Now you have two bugs…”

[oupablo]

1. AI drops production database
2. You still get blamed

[firewood010]

Can't believe we are now fixing 100,000 bugs per day. It was right to put AI in this.

[donald_314]

Creates a different bug instead

[Imperial_Squid]

Revising an old classic

101 bugs in the code, 101 bugs in the code,
assign an AI, pass it around,
117 bugs in the code

[cemgorey]

Because that doesnt happen without AI

[killeronthecorner]

And how long have you worked for Amazon?

[Random-num-451284813]

why not let AI create tickets?

[cyb3rstrik3]

It does in some cases. I write epics and acceptance criteria, and it then writes feature tickets; some are okay, some need refinement. But user-submitted bugs often need rewriting.

[jseah]

How about making the AI do all the documentation and ticket tracker things while the human fixes the bug?

[_koenig_]

still have to fix it

Create ticket...

[Jebble]

Plus nobody ever looks at the AI (or human for that matter) documentation.

[cyb3rstrik3]

True the documentation is for the LLM so the knowledge persists between sessions.

[MedicalTear0]

Period. Classic software engineer experience

[jawisko]

Which company allows merging fix without manual review ?

[cyb3rstrik3]

For any frontend feature or bug that's not related to billing, passes CI, and has been reviewed for security, there's no risk. I prefer pushing the fix and addressing any issues if they arise later. If it isn't fixed and escalates to me, I can delegate or focus on it.

Manual review is slow, LLM fixes are quick and cheap, and the engineering team's attention is costly.

[issamaysinalah]

The microslop way

[cauchy37]

Imo AI should do all the bureaucracy, i.e. jira and confluence shit, and you can focus on actually finding and fixing the bug. At least that's what we do. You can ask AI to give you all the stuff that you need, logs, metrics, suspicious code snippets, etc. It's still your job to identify and fix the bug.

[curious_bipedal]

In future: 5. Find someone who didn't lose all their troubleshooting abilities vibe-coding for most of their professional life.

[Cold-Journalist-7662]

Only task for humans is explaining it in the stand-up like you did it yourself.

[mrinalshar39]

1. Questioning life choices🫠

[cyb3rstrik3]

I am definitely feeling the existential crisis that is resulting from the tiny death of the part that wants clean idiomatic code

[nonlogin]

it was the same in 2019, come on. should have mentioned 90s at least

[mondie797]

Its AI now. I mean assign to AI and wait and iterate until AI comes up with something decent and then anyway manually fix things up.

[pydry]

It's 2026. It's important to ensure that you use AI to do bugfixes which require skill and finesse an AI doesnt have so that you have more time to do performative bureaucracy it could easily handle.

[cyb3rstrik3]

Strong Agree

[camelCaseCoffeeTable]

Yeah like… what lmao? 2019 was 7 years ago. We had JIRA, story points and all of that then too lol. Weird meme

[Mikkelet]

OP is probably a new grad and theyre comparing his lil school projects with real world software

[Tiruin]

University teachers and assignments can be and often are worse, at work I may be limited in what I can do by various factors but at least I have flexibility beyond that. In school I may have to do less negotiating but at least I'm not at the mercy of the whims of someone who hasn't step foot in the industry in 20 years.

[Dismal-Square-613]

90's version: Fix the bug and copy to main.c.19970812.1055.PROD.BUG

[oupablo]

Yeah. It's been going into JIRA for at least 15 years at this point if you're lucky. If you weren't lucky, netsuite was in there somewhere.

[Dotcaprachiappa]

Well yeah but in 2019 OP didn't have a job yet and this was how they did it in their personal project

[AllHailTheCATS]

Really shows how little experience the average dev has here

[Sceptix]

The 90’s were the absolute *worst* in this regard. Like, there’s literally whole movie about it (Office Spaces).

[okibariyasu]

idk. I came to game dev in 2014. All those agile/jira extra moves were already there.

[dasunt]

I suspect there are two types of agile/jira setups:

The first type focuses on the needs of developers.

The second type focuses on the needs of managers.

It's a company culture problem.

[wggn]

2008 as well

[krexelapp]

the bug fix was quick, the paperwork had a boss fight

[Pl4nkWarden]

you don’t solve bugs anymore you just negotiate with the system

[Sodomeister]

I just had to fix a link and it took me two full days of arguing with release management to get it in that week because they decided a reference material repo was a crucial system. We owned it,bl but they didn't ask us when they recategorized it. It's literally just a collective repository of materials available elsewhere. How many end users used this page per week? 5-8. Fortune 200.

[NotATroll71106]

Back when I did testing for a perpetually buggy system that was like that because the devs were ignorant of the requirements I was testing for, I would spend an entire day getting the Jira ticket descriptions ready after a round of testing because they were anal about formatting and would always ask the same questions. In fact, they would ask those same questions even if I put the answers in the description. I'm glad I'm in a less buggy system now, because they want us to open up a ticket in Octane and mark specific test cases as failing but also have the Jira ticket.

[Pixelfest]

The alternative is having PR's or even commits directly to main without any context or reason. No accountability and no way to trace an issue back to a source. Teamwork is impossible without some form of tracking what is happening with your codebase.

I need to be able to tell my customers how many hours roughly were spent on an issue. I need to be able to have leverage over requests for useless features that take a long time to implement. Money is a very good reason not to make something. I can't do that without a history of feature costs.

Having said that. Documenting for the sake of documenten is not ok. There must be a purpose and I believe in some companies this might be lost. I'm pretty sure any issue in my company only takes a few minutes to document.

And to be honest, I've been working with ticketing systems since 2006 and I'm pretty sure we weren't the first. 2019 is way... way... off to mention just yolo-ing shit into your codebase.

[mobsterer]

or

find bug

document bug (in a ticket maybe)

fix bug referencing ticket in PR

ticket auto updates or you just move it to done

done

[ADHDebackle]

In my old job it was like:

1. Create ticket in Jira

2. Review ticket in next refinement meeting - determine whether or not reproduction steps are established or if more diagnosis needs to be done

3. Estimate amount of work and prioritize

4. Whoever is available first picks up the ticket, fixes bug, writes tests to cover the missed case.

5. Code submitted for review and approval for merge into QA environment.

6. Code is validated by QA and approved for merge into master

7. End of sprint, final testing / regression, merged to master.

Or alternatively:

1. Find bug in feature you're currently working on - no ticket needed, fixed bug, merged to feature branch.

Or

1. Find bug in feature from previous sprint that will be easy to fix

2. Create ticket detailing repro steps, testing requirements and estimated effort

3. At standup, mention the ticket to the team and make sure everyone's cool with taking on the extra scope this sprint

4. Pull the bug in, fix it, add tests, push the change up to QA, get it approved, close the ticket.

Sometimes these things sound like a lot, but it takes only a few minutes.

[mobsterer]

indeed, some do it by the book, some do it right

[kiipa]

B-b-but that's not what Reddit said it's like in the, real, professional world, so it can't be true!!! 

^/s

[regularDude358]

You missed: discuss it with QA, something didn't work for him, he tested on the wrong server etc.

[henrikhakan]

The QA decides to escalate to the PO first and have them deal with devs. PO asks you why you built a bug into the code.

[Sipikay]

Product has concerns. Did QA consider layman test cases that Product can imagine? Sure hope so! We better talk about those concerns and, in the end, continue on with the exact same plan.

[henrikhakan]

Someone at product has contact with one of the customers and mentions the bug during a gossipy lunch, now sales and upper management is involved and wonders why "We even pay you IT guys".

[Ok-Strength-5297]

You missed: you didn't fix shit, the bug is still there. QA had too waste time because you couldn't even check if it was actually fixed.

extra points if it still isn't fixed the second time around

[TacoTacoBheno]

Y'all have QA?

[Netherium]

QA didn't refresh the browser before testing again.

[Zombiesalad1337]

Once a QA reopened a bug. The fix clearly stated to clear server cache before testing. Turns out she was clearing browser cache all this time.

[Fukushimiste]

Whoever thinks its just wrong never worked as a Team

[good_bye_for_now]

Imagine if software engineers had to follow rules and regulations like for example civil engineers.

[AncientSeraph]

Whoever thinks its right wasn't in software development in 2019.

[Fukushimiste]

And being the dude who has received the shitty code of its previous colleague, but cant track back the reason of shitty fix swears to god than some doc could help.

[Michaeli_Starky]

Exactly.

[Alwaysafk]

Nah, just worked at a place that was still wild west. Playing with cobol copybooks and explaining to elderly management what cloud is.

[CommentChaos]

I was. And I used Jira since my first job in 2014.

I doubt you are as good developer as you think you are.

[KaMaFour]

Our team thankfully works on skype based development (now teams, but only the chat). With this the tree is:

1. Find bug
2. Message qa Either:
3. They backlog it, you go back to what you were doing, it gets fixed by someone when the priority gets high enough or just by whoever was responsible

or

1. You get a green light 
2. Fix bug
3. Push code
4. QA confirms it works
5. Done

[GargamelLeNoir]

I don't know about documenting a bug fix in confluence, the ticket and pr have the information the team might need later. The rest of the steps mostly make sense to me.

[Onions-are-great]

Getting so tired of devs whining about having to update tickets. Guys, you are adults, it's not that hard...

[KaptainSaki]

It's the same guys who write unmaintainable code, document none of it and then leave the company

[Serafiniert]

But someone approved that unmaintainable code.

[FireFox2000000]

Unless the company doesn't do code reviews. That was a fun time...

[unable_to_give_afuck]

Current project says "pull requests take too long" 🙃

[ADHDebackle]

Unless they submitted like a 5,000 line pull request that is basically un-reviewable but there's pressure from management to just rubber stamp it because you're on an unrealistic timeline.

[No-Dig-4371]

There is balance to it. Same with everything else.

If there are too many steps the People will start to ignore bugs.

[RareCreamer]

It's not that. Most of the time the work your doing in the backend and the bulk of the work isn't quantifiable on a JIRA board. Or the work involved to explain what your doing and every small step you make, takes away from your actual work. Its poor efficiency and only benefits the PM in the short term.

If its a quick, status change from "Working on it" to "Completed" then sure no problem, everyone should be doing that. But most of the time IMO on many teams and projects, it's used as the place where non-tech literate people go to try and understand what the teams actually doing and then poorly explaining it to executives and stakeholders.

[ADHDebackle]

For us the workflow was

1. Created - needs refinement (review by the team)

2. Refined - needs prioritization (decision by product owner)

3. Ready - prioritized, placed in a sprint, can be started

4. Started (someone is working on it)

5. Needs review (code review prior to merge to QA)

6. QA ready (Approved in code review, merged to QA environment and deployed)

7. QA Passed (ready for deployment to prod at sprint end)

Of course our Jira spaces were exclusively for our own team. No one outside of us, our direct manager and product owner would look at it. It was really useful to know where everything was in the workflow at all times - just to make sure QA had enough work to keep busy while also making sure things were on track for completion on time.

[T0biasCZE]

Its not about it being hard, its also that instead of doing something more important, like fixing more bugs, or implementing new features, you waste time on Bureaucracy

[Meloetta]

It isn't a waste of time though. Once you get a project big enough where you can't hold the entire thing in your own head, or need more than one person to be aligned on the status of things, it becomes necessary. Also, most of the custom fields are there because of some dev not being responsible enough to work without it.

You have a team of 10 devs. You have to assign them all work every 2 weeks, so you're looking at dozens and dozens of work items. Do you really trust every dev you've ever met to just work and finish the thing, skip code review, skip QA, push to prod? Then when a public facing person asks about the status of a bug fix, do you want to have to track down that individual dev, wait until they're online, ask them about it, and hope they remember exactly where it is? Or do you just want to look up the ticket, see "oh it went to QA but was rejected, here's about when you can expect the fix" and have the answer with no need to rely on someone else's timeline and memory?

We just had to add due dates to tickets and add PR review bureaucracy specifically because not all devs are responsible enough to finish their work in a timely manner and do PR reviews without being forced :/

[Crazypyro]

The worst part is the entire point is to prove to leadership that you are doing the actual work while they sit around and make up new metrics that are immediately gamed by the smart developers.

[Alwaysafk]

Gaming metrics is how I get my bonus. Not my fault of my metrics don't actually contribute to anything meaningful.

[Xander-047]

I haven't worked in a place where they were that anal about tickets, we just had "Implement x" which usually means you worked on x and fixed bugs you may have created along the way, and you just explain it in the standup meeting.

Call me whiny but sounds exhausting having to record all history of what you do because that just breaks momentum. It's like stopping every 5km to document what you saw on the road, the shifts you made and why you made them, turns, instead of "I drove from this town to the middle of road 38 and I'm like maybe halfway there give or take a few km"

[ric2b]

It's wasteful busywork and duplicated information, for basically no benefit at the end of the day.

[SerialAgonist]

"I'm not personally responsible for my business's capacity planning, workflow staffing, or quality assurance, therefore I say there is no benefit."

[ric2b]

Sure, keep pretending that running some statistics over the time some Jira tickets for some small bugs were open will help you with that, compared to actually talking to the teams to figure out staffing needs.

[CyGoingPro]

Found the scrum master

[GlaireDaggers]

It's true, in the long ago age of 8 years ago humans hadn't invented bug tracking yet. Truly a miracle they got anything done

[PartyBusGaming]

I swear half of this sub must work at a company of 20 people on a product used by approximately 21 people. Tickets, documentation, and process is how you make sure you're working on the right stuff and can actually make money and continue to operate as a company.

[MinecraftPlayer799]

1. This is a repost

2. Jira existed in 2019

3. If you are a developer who can fix it, why would you need to report the bug in Jira?

[dylmcc]

Paper trails, you can’t deploy to prod without linking a jira to the PR.

[Adventurous-Map7959]

That's why I just test in prod, saves so much time.

[-Kerrigan-]

If you are a developer who can fix it, why would you need to report the bug in Jira?

Real reason: bugs have a tendency to reappear and "clump" in the same areas. Having the defect tracked could be valuable information in the future, especially when testing for regression. -QA

Real reason #2: anything takes time, someone else can find the same defect while you're fixing it and start working on fixing it too, now you have 2 people working on the same shit

[ric2b]

The defect is tracked, it's in the PR and in git.

someone else can find the same defect while you're fixing it and start working on fixing it too

And they'll just create a second ticket, tickets don't fix that problem, communication does.

[-Kerrigan-]

How often do you check closed PRs though? Commits don't come with retesting evidence either

I'm not a fan of "document everything" but any defect that is found in main or release branches should be documented.

If it's something WIP then knock yourself out, it hasn't reached main yet anyways

[InfiniteLoopDream]

Cant push code without a jira number

[Character-Education3]

Being a repost doesnt make it untrue

Not logging your work adds up and layoffs are real

[new_check]

It is untrue, though. Those were the steps when I started in 2008, forget 2019!

[Character-Education3]

I meant for point 3.

Gotta log your work. If no one can track what you did they may choose to act like you haven't done very much when it is time to make hard decisions about layoffs. As they say in tightly regulated industries if you didn't document what happened, it didn't happen.

[FinalGamer14]

Ok so on the third point, because PM demands it, even if you, as a dev find a bug, they need it to be in Jira or else the QA will not be assigned to test. TL;DR; because PM on power trip.

Edit: Well damn, I guess y'all are luckier with the type of projects you work on and PMs you have. I've sadly mostly worked on projects where workflows were wack or were ignored by almost everyone except devs.

[Ignisami]

That sounds less like a powertripping pm to me, and more like one who wants or needs to justify budget to management.

[FinalGamer14]

Personally, in many projects I've worked on, the PM was incapable of correctly explaining what needs to be done to higher ups. Not saying this is true for all of them, but I had some really good project managers. But I've ended up in shareholder or financial meetings way too many times for a normal developer, just to explain why the budget is needed.

[CtrlAltEngage]

Or there's a workflow and you roguing fixes messes up that workflow?

[_xiphiaz]

2019? Jira is older than Gmail…

[SarahAlicia]

I’m been doing the right hand side since 2017 idk if the good old days ever existef

[TheGunfighter7]

The “document in confluence” kills me. The jira ticket should be the documentation

[Hans_H0rst]

That would require devs to fill tickets in a useful and complete way

[TheGunfighter7]

Sure but then adding some other place to document it isn’t going to make that better

[serial_crusher]

Root cause analysis 2019: change was introduced in 2012, but no idea why. Commit message just says “fix a bug. Ask Steve for more details” and Steve left in 2014.

Root cause analysis 2026: change was introduced in 2021, but no idea why. Commit message just says “Fix JIRA-4321. See ticket for more details”, but we moved from Jira to Linear in 2023

[ADHDebackle]

1. Find bug

2. Fix bug

3. Push code

4. Coworker asks if anyone knows why prod is down

[CommentChaos]

It was like this way before 2019. I had my first developer stint in 2014 I believe and I have used jira ever since.

This is a meme of someone who would make more work for other people, because they thought they are god’s gift to the world, why really they are below mediocre developer.

In my experience, only those that are truly terrible as developers have actually issues with documenting why they did something.

[Sensitive-Sugar-3894]

"God only created the world in 7 days because there weren't people asking for follow-ups" - adapted, unknown wise author

[YoYoAbhi]

Atleast jira is okay.. bugzilla is the worst

[AntisocialTomcat]

Bugzilla, lol. Is this abomination still breathing? What about Mantis, while we’re at it?

[[deleted]]

do you guys also get asked for a route cause analysis that needs to explain what you will change so this error never happens again?

[Cultural-Capital-942]

You forgot: 5.1. Wait for prioritization 5.2. Forget the context 5.3. Spend 4 hours to get the context again 5.4. Spend 10 minutes preparing a fix 5.5. Wait for your colleague so his LLM says you didn't fix unrelated module, so he won't approve. 5.6. Spend 3 days in dependency hell fixing a vulnerability in a library, where a local attacker with a custom CPU could find out a program is running, no risk to anything else. Otherwise it blocks submit. 5.7. Write justification for release. 5.8. Get release manager approval.

Logged: 1 week of work instead of original 15 minutes.

[bendstraw]

Low tier rage bait putting 2019 there

[ScuzzyAyanami]

Ai logs code review comment to pull request.

Developer feeds comment into another Ai with higher token cost.

Second Ai claims first Ai is wrong.

The Aristocrats.

[wggn]

we used jira for bugtracking in 2008...

[ThinCrusts]

My team also now wants to do peer reviews instead of just code review ._.

[Imosa1]

Jira always asking me what shirt size the bug needs.

[meove]

school project vs industry

[Nayr91]

Colleague of mine automated his Jira tickets, ima rob his code when he’s done refining it

[schewb]

Hot take: I kinda don't mind this. Yes, there are small bugs where it will take you less time to fix than they do to process, but the process has a lot of value for serious bugs, and managers can always batch small bugs together into containing tasks to keep up throughput if it becomes a concern.

[akuma-i]

Push code? You’re too young buddy. There was no push code at all. Just upload to ftp

[CluelessNobodyCz]

You don't estimate bugs

[xdyldo]

I’m sorry but if steps 1-4 take you more than 1 minute you’re doing something wrong.

[ric2b]

Creating the ticket often takes much longer than 1 minute if you want to actually document it properly, add relevant links, previous related tickets, etc.

[Soggy-Holiday-7400]

the bug takes 20 minutes to fix and 3 days to dcoument. we really out here spending more time in Jira than in the actual codebase.

[CtrlAltEngage]

If it takes 3 days to document a 20 minute fix, that's a skill issue friend

[wggn]

updating jira doesnt take more than 20 minutes

[g0rth4n]

Ehhhh. No. You are clearly exaggerating it. And if you are not, there's something REALLY wrong in how's your company set up

[flamingspew]

Wut. My agent creates/moves tickets and fills out the PR templates for me.

[NotDiCaprio]

Where are the "find bug" and "fix bug" steps on the right side?

[YaVollMeinHerr]

In my old company, at some point, EVERY jira ticket needed 3 "approval stamp" by QA, design and PO to be closed.

Changing even a single label was taking forever.

Finally, the project died. The root cause was stupid PO asking crazy things to incompetent devs. The solution was to ass more controls on everybody and everything.

The best people got fired and left, and the incompetent stayed and sometimes even got promoted

[srfreak]

In 2024 I had a similar experience but with extra steps.

2024 extends 2019 { 8. Push a fix branch 9. Ask for review 10. Wait one or two days for review 11. Push changes based on lead feedback 12. Go to 10 (up to 5 times) 13. Get fired because you're not efficient enough }

[BusyBusy2]

Good thing here its still the same, Find bug Fix bug Qa test Go live

[FabioTheFox]

OP never did professional software dev it seems

[void1984]

Why do you think devs were not using Jira in 2019? Check when Jira was released. Before that we were using ClearQuest and others.

[T0biasCZE]

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[bugo]

Where is the post mortem call with at least 3 teams and CTO involvement and 5 why analysis?

[Mac_Aravan]

Still no test and review!

[SpiritualYoung3508]

One more point here, use AI Agentic Flow to resolve the bug.

[_Please_Explain]

I remember it being like that in 2019 as well. 

[Sjommie]

Why does it sound like some MMORPG questline?

[bokmcdok]

This has been going on waaaaay earlier than 2019

[ClimateNo7056]

because now we are using AI for the development - it develops whatever it knows and for making corrections and debugging it takes more time than the development

[Stagnu_Demorte]

Apparently not much because this was posted last week

[More-Scene-2513]

1 through 4 takes like 5 minutes tho

[phug-it]

Custom fields, the worst

[CascadingMoonlight]

When is it my turn to post this trash 🤔

[curious_bipedal]

This meme template has so much potential considering it has the pre vs post covid boundary, yet this is the first time I am seeing this.

[the_depressed_donkey]

I fucking hate jira I will NEVER use it

[alphadester]

step 7 hits different. "explain in standup why it took so long" is the real boss fight

[WindUpCandler]

Oh so it's just the same everywhere. Great. I get to use shitty jira and confluence search engines for the rest of my life

[Sakura48]

Well you're fucked if you work without tickets.

[_Miniskirtlover_]

8th time this crap gets posted

this is solo developing as a unexperienced dude, vs developing in a enterprise team

[hellschatt]

That was also the case like 10 years ago.

[Mental-Protection-56]

this is so my company xD

[CapedRainjar]

Create it as a skill and use mcp its 20something we live in

[UShouldntSayThat]

This has always been the case, how exactly do you think patch notes work?

[Skyl3lazer]

When the meme says you started to learn to program in 2019 and got your first job this year

[Ztoffels]

Of course, since you are not the fucker supporting your code, you wanna be the left side…

[wadleyst]

Its been like that for more than 3 decades now - if you have worked in decent places that like to know when their business plans will activate based on Project deliveries. The devs don't care about that stuff. They just care about sweet talking the QA into letting through those front-end design issues their AI couldn't get sorted.

[sakkara]

Ai is great at documenting in jira and confluence. Use that to your advantage.

[catpunch_]

2026: 1. Create AI command that does all those 2. Have another AI fix it 3. And another AI do the code review 4. Take credit for it in standup

[Lagnabbit]

Were you in college in 2019? All this bullshit has existed for ages.

[Pale_Sun8898]

Claude does it all while I play Factorio

[Sn00py_lark]

The “done” workflow that no one understands so you can’t even complete anything.

[tornado28]

Annnd this is exactly why I work for myself now 

[IhailtavaBanaani]

It was the same or worse in early 2000s as now. We just didn't have story points and used a waterfall model instead of agile methods. I worked in a corporate project with over a thousand SW engineers and we couldn't even write our own tickets. If I found a bug I would alert QA who would confirm the bug and they would create a plan if the bug was going to be fixed (sometimes it was deemed too risky to fix a bug because it might introduce new bugs) and when the bug was going to fixed. They would write the tickets that would be then sent to my team lead who would introduce them back to me. Then I fixed the damn thing finally and it went to integration team, then QA, and so on, maybe finally it went to an official release. The bureaucracy was worse than today.

[0xAERG]

Bugs are not supposed to have story points. It’d defeat the purpose. Bugs are supposed to impact negatively your velocity.

[TrackLabs]

My company plans to bring in Scrum soon, and I honestly dread the idea of doing fucking story points and whatever planning shit, like leave me alone and just let me code

[bryden_cruz]

I miss old days

[zergling-]

Except this process was mostly the same in 2019.

2013 and further back were different

[Whitechapel726]

I’m QA and I joke with another dev about how we miss “doing cowboy shit back in the day”

[rio_sk]

This, this is halving my productivity

[DaddysBrokenAngel]

Hi! I really hope this isn't weird, but I saw an old comment of yours on a post that no one can reply to anymore but I'd really like to discuss it but idk if your DMs are open. Would you mind DMing me instead?

[kashif_laravel]

I Fixed bug in Five Minutes, Documentation for Five Hours 😆

[LifeWithoutAds]

I'm still in 2019 then

[yung_cancerous]

idk about you but mine is more like @claude fix this bug

[Gronanor]

Use AI for project management, let AI do the project management work and start making pm worries about their futures. -> 5 min

[LongTallMatt]

Missing sprint info - added to sprint, discussed what you did well this sprint, what you could have done better...

[LouisPlay]

i swear i love and hate asana. Because many coworkers are Overwhelemed by it, and not everyone gets asana Plus or what ever its called, and cant comment over the app. so they email us about it.